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Man in wheelchair was handcuffed, left on sidewalk with his pants down

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: spidey07
4) "IDENTIFY YOURSELF as a LEO", I am ARMED, do not approach me or I will fire. Do not approach, do not take a single step toward me.
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wtf does this even mean?
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It sounds like he's threatening a law enforcement officer.
 
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: spidey07
4) "IDENTIFY YOURSELF as a LEO", I am ARMED, do not approach me or I will fire. Do not approach, do not take a single step toward me.
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wtf does this even mean?
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A LEO could refer to another Law Enforcement Officer, however, the rules are much different when being confronted by another LEO than what was stated above... you must comply and identify yourself as such and ASK to be allowed to show ID... etc...
 
I guess in the position of makeing a split second decision, the officer felt his life was in danger and had to taze perp.
 
Originally posted by: Grunt03
I guess in the position of makeing a split second decision, the officer felt his life was in danger and had to taze perp.
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No... not really. I think he was simply directing the the suspect to comply with orders. IF a Marine Pvt. gets an order from a Sergeant what happens if he fails to comply? Say, on the battle field? (A lawful order, of course)

 
I can see cops considering the use of a stun gun to be the easy option compared to kicking, punching, shooting, hitting with a bully club, or using the rough end of a broken off broom stick as an anal dildo.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: ebaycj
Tazing needs to carry the same significance to a police officer as being involved in a line-of-duty shooting (i.e. your ass gets kicked to the curb if it is unjustified).

Until that standard is universally enforced, we will continue to see lots of these ridiculous stories of people being tazed when they shouldn't be.
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WTF!

I present to you possible outcomes before the adoption of a taser. "STOP RIGHT THERE! HANDS UP!" from a citizen's point of view.

1) Run away
2) Hands up, 'what's up officer, what you want?'
3) Charge the officer with or without a weapon
4) "IDENTIFY YOURSELF as a LEO", I am ARMED, do not approach me or I will fire. Do not approach, do not take a single step toward me.

What are the outcomes of this?

#3 results in you being tazed or killed. Everything else, nothing.
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I think ebaycj is in the right, and you are just way to eager to let cops go around tazing people. If an officer needs to taze an amputee because he wouldn't give his kid to child protective services, then he needs to be relieved of duty citing an inability to be a functionally sound officer. Of course we don't know the entire story, only the short blurb on that news site.

Here's other possible the outcomes after the adoption of the tazer:

1) Get chased down, possibly by dogs, and then tazed(possibly after cuffed) just because you ran
2) Put your hands up, ask what you did wrong, get tazed because you could potentially become a threat
3) Get tazed then beaten practically gang style is some cases, meaning multiple cops on you.
4) Get tazed then shot? who knows on that one

My point is, Police did just fine before the tazer and it's been overused for some time now. Some people can't handle being tazed and could possibly die, that includes people under the influence of stimulants, heart conditions, and/or older people who's bodies just can't take it(of course other conditions, just citing a few). The real problem is, the Police are not required to take this into account yet.
 
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: spidey07
4) "IDENTIFY YOURSELF as a LEO", I am ARMED, do not approach me or I will fire. Do not approach, do not take a single step toward me.
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wtf does this even mean?
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That spidy is an idiot as well as a bigot.
 
could be worse. they could have ordered him to stand then dump him out of the wheelchair when he can't then arrest him...
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: ebaycj
Tazing needs to carry the same significance to a police officer as being involved in a line-of-duty shooting (i.e. your ass gets kicked to the curb if it is unjustified).

Until that standard is universally enforced, we will continue to see lots of these ridiculous stories of people being tazed when they shouldn't be.
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WTF!

I present to you possible outcomes before the adoption of a taser. "STOP RIGHT THERE! HANDS UP!" from a citizen's point of view.

1) Run away
2) Hands up, 'what's up officer, what you want?'
3) Charge the officer with or without a weapon
4) "IDENTIFY YOURSELF as a LEO", I am ARMED, do not approach me or I will fire. Do not approach, do not take a single step toward me.

What are the outcomes of this?

#3 results in you being tazed or killed. Everything else, nothing.
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What a non-surprise to see Mr Freedom here do backflips to defend the police abusing a suspect.
 
Originally posted by: CitizenKain


What a non-surprise to see Mr Freedom here do backflips to defend the police abusing a suspect.
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How in the world is it abuse? Suspect didn't comply, suspect got tazed. That's how it works. Would you rather the police beat him so he complies?
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Brovane
They brought him in and then didn't have enough evidence to charge him with anything. If was resisting arrest enough to deserved to be tazed then I would think there would be more than enough evidence to charge him with something.
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Police were only following procedure. You don't have to be committing a crime to get tased, just act like a dumbass.
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Yes, now get in that gas chamber and quit complaining, I mean resisiting.
 
Originally posted by: 43st
Man.. this makes that Acorn event tame, they need to shut this police system down!
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Another troll .........
Did you read a different article than the rest of us. Jump to conclusions much?
You have no idea what "all" the facts are concerning this case yet you speculate the police system needs to be shut down. You sir are an idiot.
 

Here's other possible the outcomes after the adoption of the tazer:
1) Get chased down, possibly by dogs, and then tazed(possibly after cuffed) just because you ran
2) Put your hands up, ask what you did wrong, get tazed because you could potentially become a threat
3) Get tazed then beaten practically gang style is some cases, meaning multiple cops on you.
4) Get tazed then shot? who knows on that one
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This sounds about right.
 
Hm, any non-trolls defending the cops...*looks*...nope. Ok, guess we're all in agreement, tazer happy cops will keep tazing till someone gets fired or sued bigtime.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: CitizenKain


What a non-surprise to see Mr Freedom here do backflips to defend the police abusing a suspect.
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How in the world is it abuse? Suspect didn't comply, suspect got tazed. That's how it works. Would you rather the police beat him so he complies?
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Given that he was released without charges being filed, it would seem evidence doesn't support your assertion. Perhaps I just live in that funny part of America where you are innocent until proven guilty, not guilty because a police officer says so.
 
Originally posted by: Carmen813
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: CitizenKain


What a non-surprise to see Mr Freedom here do backflips to defend the police abusing a suspect.
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How in the world is it abuse? Suspect didn't comply, suspect got tazed. That's how it works. Would you rather the police beat him so he complies?
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Given that he was released without charges being filed, it would seem evidence doesn't support your assertion. Perhaps I just live in that funny part of America where you are innocent until proven guilty, not guilty because a police officer says so.
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You don't get tazed because an officer deams you guilty. You get tazed when you are going to be detained, arrested, etc and don't comply.

Why is this so hard for people to comprehend? A tazer is like handcuffs, it's a tool to detain somebody. It can also be used to stop a threat, but the main use is non-lethal force to detain and arrest you.
 
Originally posted by: jonks
Hm, any non-trolls defending the cops...*looks*...nope. Ok, guess we're all in agreement, tazer happy cops will keep tazing till someone gets fired or sued bigtime.
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I am a non-troll and I will defend the Police or at least give them the benefit of the doubt until all the information is in and a determination by competent authority has been made as to whether it was justified or not. Everyone who jumps into this thread vilifying the police without sufficient information on what actually occurred is a moron and in my opinion a troll trying to stir the pot.
If the Police acted irresponsibly I will be the first to condemn them believe me.
 
Originally posted by: Skitzer
Originally posted by: jonks
Hm, any non-trolls defending the cops...*looks*...nope. Ok, guess we're all in agreement, tazer happy cops will keep tazing till someone gets fired or sued bigtime.
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I am a non-troll and I will defend the Police or at least give them the benefit of the doubt until all the information is in and a determination by competent authority has been made as to whether it was justified or not. Everyone who jumps into this thread vilifying the police without sufficient information on what actually occurred is a moron and in my opinion a troll trying to stir the pot.
If the Police acted irresponsibly I will be the first to condemn them believe me.
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Everyone who jumps into this thread defending the police without sufficient information on what actually occurred is a moron and in my opinion a troll trying to stir the pot.

Quick everyone, lets jump to defend a cop who tasered a paraplegic, he might have rolled his chair over someone's foot.
 
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: Skitzer
Originally posted by: jonks
Hm, any non-trolls defending the cops...*looks*...nope. Ok, guess we're all in agreement, tazer happy cops will keep tazing till someone gets fired or sued bigtime.
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I am a non-troll and I will defend the Police or at least give them the benefit of the doubt until all the information is in and a determination by competent authority has been made as to whether it was justified or not. Everyone who jumps into this thread vilifying the police without sufficient information on what actually occurred is a moron and in my opinion a troll trying to stir the pot.
If the Police acted irresponsibly I will be the first to condemn them believe me.
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Everyone who jumps into this thread defending the police without sufficient information on what actually occurred is a moron and in my opinion a troll trying to stir the pot.

Quick everyone, lets jump to defend a cop who tasered a paraplegic, he might have rolled his chair over someone's foot.
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What makes you treat paraplegics and their physical abilities with such contempt? Having worked with them in the past they are as capable of doing damage to someone at close range as anyone else.
 
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