Man... I interviewed some pretty bad candidates from JPMC & Yelp...

[Mai72]

Did any of your candidates bring their mom into the interview? Seriously though. I just think it's a sign of the times. Yes, those candidates are young and ill informed. But, it seems to be different today than it was 20 years ago. People were more socially aware and driven to succeed. IMO, treating grown adults as children is doing more harm it seems.

Side note: I have a friend who allows his boy who dropped out of HS to sit in his room and play video games all day. Wtf are people thinking! He doesn't want to say anything for fear of upsetting his son.

 

[repoman0]

Can't beat cultures that value education in itself. Part of real cultural literacy, not the zoo-style thrill reads appreciation bullshit you find in college. .


I am rather genetically....arrogant....

Because both sides of my family....let's just say...know how to climb the educational ladder even if some of questionable morally...it's isn't bias from love because I have no love for my father or his extended family. But measuring success? They are an exhibit that fuels the "model minority" stereotype of Asians.

There are regions of this country that value education too. For example, the people of my home state of Massachusetts have an average IQ similar to that of Japan (~106). There is no real common culture except that we value spending a lot of money on our schools because we prefer to not be surrounded by morons.

 

[nakedfrog]

Did any of your candidates bring their mom into the interview? Seriously though. I just think it's a sign of the times. Yes, those candidates are young and ill informed. But, it seems to be different today than it was 20 years ago. People were more socially aware and driven to succeed. IMO, treating grown adults as children is doing more harm it seems.

What? Is this an actual thing?

Side note: I have a friend who allows his boy who dropped out of HS to sit in his room and play video games all day. Wtf are people thinking! He doesn't want to say anything for fear of upsetting his son.

That's not how parenting is supposed to work. Is he just planning to let the kid live there rent-free indefinitely?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

What? Is this an actual thing?

That's not how parenting is supposed to work. Is he just planning to let the kid live there rent-free indefinitely?

It is apparently a thing - and actually - last I heard was of parents calling the hiring manager after the fact, and basically asking "why didn't you hire my child?"

Which - it actually makes a little bit of sense. That's what's currently happening with kids in school. They call up the teacher and say it's the teachers fault that their kid is an asshat that is also too stupid for todays lower-standard testing. So it's only natural that it graduated to job interviews.

What I hadn't heard of was parents actually attending interviews, but a quick Google is saying that's starting to be a thing too.


Anyhow, seems appropriate image that spells it out:

 

[Torn Mind]

There are regions of this country that value education too. For example, the people of my home state of Massachusetts have an average IQ similar to that of Japan (~106). There is no real common culture except that we value spending a lot of money on our schools because we prefer to not be surrounded by morons.

It wasn't always like that in Massachusetts, although it definitely is now. Massachusetts certainly did well in reforming education back in 1993; which was caused in part by a lawsuit and the business class expressing concern of a ill-prepared workforce. In general terms, necessity spurred change. The results of Massachusetts were due to the interest of the state fearing lack of human capital would lead to an economic downfall. https://www.seattletimes.com/educat...ike-us-so-why-are-its-schools-so-much-better/

How The State's 'Grand' Education Bargain Came To Be — And How It Comes Up Short

Massachusetts began a sweeping overhaul of public education 25 years ago, changing the way schools were funded -- and ushering in a new era of accountability.

www.wbur.org

But recently, at least one org alleges that the state is not quite aiming in the right direction regarding educating kids. https://pioneerinstitute.org/common_core/how-massachusetts-showed-the-way-on-education-reform/

This new culture in Masschusetts is still relatively young, being about 28 years entrenched.

IQ is more innate with some cultural "flavor" due to the questions involved. African-Americans may not be achieve in school but they are street smart achievers when it comes to exploiting facets of law( not necessarily criminal, some stick to exploiting civil matters), to extent they are almost natural lawyers. There are also socially adept; you'd never expect nefariousness if one's the type judge based on mannerisms. The white American southerner also can exploit politeness and social norms in a similar manner.

In ethnicities like the Chinese, education might as well be the equivalent of measuring penis size. Not only is it the meal ticket, it's the social power trip everyone is chasing for. Say you're a Hahvaahd grad with a STEM job and you might as well roll out the red carpet. And even if those do not have an official degree, they are also still "intelligent" and push their kids to do well in education so the kid can succeed in a way the parent wasn't able to.

 

[Torn Mind]

It is apparently a thing - and actually - last I heard was of parents calling the hiring manager after the fact, and basically asking "why didn't you hire my child?"

Which - it actually makes a little bit of sense. That's what's currently happening with kids in school. They call up the teacher and say it's the teachers fault that their kid is an asshat that is also too stupid for todays lower-standard testing. So it's only natural that it graduated to job interviews.

What I hadn't heard of was parents actually attending interviews, but a quick Google is saying that's starting to be a thing too.


Anyhow, seems appropriate image that spells it out:

So, kid in 1969 get swept up in the revolutions of his day and decided to "revolt" in parenting as well, becoming more tolerant and "accommodating", ditching accountability, etc and all his parents stood for.

Thanx, Boomers and Xers.

Youth and old people these days...

I say...

 

[brianmanahan]

See, I hate terms like that. Why not say expanding or increasing. My grass is 'growing'.

i have an ask

 

[nakedfrog]

i have an ask

Let's go ahead and have a round table, and see if we can leverage some synergy.

 

[brianmanahan]

Let's go ahead and have a round table, and see if we can leverage some synergy.

can we circle the wagons?

 

[nakedfrog]

can we circle the wagons?

Great idea, then we can identify the stakeholders, and sort of strategize our core strengths.

 

[sdifox]

Don't forget to count the lines of communication.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Where are the key stakeholders and what have we identified as the KPIs for project success?

 

[jpiniero]

I'm rather convinced that recruiters only exist to extract inordinate amounts of money from employers who can't be bothered to post jobs for themselves.

No kidding. And I can assure you that the recruiter did little other than confirm he has a pulse. You'd think companies wouldn't even bother with third parties for DH these days.

 

[waffleironhead]

Did any of your candidates bring their mom into the interview? Seriously though. I just think it's a sign of the times. Yes, those candidates are young and ill informed. But, it seems to be different today than it was 20 years ago. People were more socially aware and driven to succeed. IMO, treating grown adults as children is doing more harm it seems.

Side note: I have a friend who allows his boy who dropped out of HS to sit in his room and play video games all day. Wtf are people thinking! He doesn't want to say anything for fear of upsetting his son.

We had person show up for an interview with her parents in the car. They had driven from a few states away for the interview. The potential new associate told us he parents were going to move wherever she got her job so wanted to go with and possibly be there at the interview. Also to check out the area for places to live. She was very immature and definitely not a good fit for our company(IE would have needed way too much hand holding). Her parents basically sat in their car in our parking lot for the whole day as it was a ride along/working interview.