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Imdmn04

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700 bucks to your GF every month? Get a new gf, leecher = no good.

You can have buy 2 new Honda Civics for 700/month.
 

FilmCamera

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Originally posted by: LivinLaVivaPollo
Originally posted by: shuttleboi
Go to a good grad school in your field. You will get paid to be a TA or RA. If you graduate with an M.S. degree, you will be making about $20K to $30K a year more.


Yeah, I have a masters as a long term goal, but because I'm salaried, I usually work into the late night, which makes it difficult for classes. Another problem is that the closest major educational institution to me is Berkeley, which I have no chance in hell of getting into.

Trust me you don't want to go to Berkeley anyway. Bunch of nut jobs.
 

LivinLaVivaPollo

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Originally posted by: Imdmn04
700 bucks to your GF every month? Get a new gf, leecher = no good.

You can have buy 2 new Honda Civics for 700/month.

If I don't help her, she'd literally be in the negative. She actually earns less than her living expenses when school loans are factored in.
 

Pepsei

Lifer
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cut your gf out.... find someone in your area....
unless she's a sure fire investement.
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: LivinLaVivaPollo
Originally posted by: Imdmn04
700 bucks to your GF every month? Get a new gf, leecher = no good.

You can have buy 2 new Honda Civics for 700/month.

If I don't help her, she'd literally be in the negative. She actually earns less than her living expenses when school loans are factored in.

School loans? So she's out of school? Working at a job that doesn't even cover her living expenses? Why the hell is she doing that? She could get a crappy job near you and save a ton of money on rent and utilities.
 

Imdmn04

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Originally posted by: LivinLaVivaPollo
Originally posted by: Imdmn04
700 bucks to your GF every month? Get a new gf, leecher = no good.

You can have buy 2 new Honda Civics for 700/month.

If I don't help her, she'd literally be in the negative. She actually earns less than her living expenses when school loans are factored in.

Exactly, why else do you think she is being your gf?

 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: kranky
Well, to be fair, most people aren't paying $700 a month towards someone else's expenses. I'm not saying that's wrong, but clearly it factors into your situation.

 

LivinLaVivaPollo

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: LivinLaVivaPollo
Originally posted by: Imdmn04
700 bucks to your GF every month? Get a new gf, leecher = no good.

You can have buy 2 new Honda Civics for 700/month.

If I don't help her, she'd literally be in the negative. She actually earns less than her living expenses when school loans are factored in.

School loans? So she's out of school? Working at a job that doesn't even cover her living expenses? Why the hell is she doing that? She could get a crappy job near you and save a ton of money on rent and utilities.


One word: Teacher. Teachers are a rare breed. She has a masters and isn't bringing home enough to live. It doesn't make sense.

She commited to teaching for a year though, and I respected her career decision, although financially it makes much more sense for her to resign and move in with me. I'm hoping she won't resign next year and will just move in with me, but I'll cross that bridge when I get there.
 

shuttleboi

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Originally posted by: LivinLaVivaPollo
Originally posted by: shuttleboi
Go to a good grad school in your field. You will get paid to be a TA or RA. If you graduate with an M.S. degree, you will be making about $20K to $30K a year more.


Yeah, I have a masters as a long term goal, but because I'm salaried, I usually work into the late night, which makes it difficult for classes. Another problem is that the closest major educational institution to me is Berkeley, which I have no chance in hell of getting into.

Go to grad school full time. I did that. You will barely keep your head above water as a salaried TA/RA. The typical pay for in-state students is $20K/year.

The earlier you go to grad school in your life, the sooner you will be making a larger salary. I would recommend that you if decide to get an M.S., you should plan to finish school no later than 26 so you can can have a chance with the undergrad chicks.

Berkeley is a great school, but you should check the other UCs. UCSD and UCLA are also outstanding for engineering.
 

mcvickj

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Originally posted by: LivinLaVivaPollo

Because I relocated away from my fiance, and she's having to cover rent on the place we had previously shared, I'm helping her with her rent, credit cards, and I'm paying for all her utilities (water, sewer, garbage, internet, cable TV). That's about 700 bucks a month.

Well helping her out is certaintly your decision but right here is your problem. This and the fact that you live in Califorina. Helping her with just the rent maybe. Why on earth are you paying for her CC debt? Cable TV? Internet? Both things that could be disconnected to save you some money. Does she have a cell?
 

LivinLaVivaPollo

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Originally posted by: mcvickj
Originally posted by: LivinLaVivaPollo

Because I relocated away from my fiance, and she's having to cover rent on the place we had previously shared, I'm helping her with her rent, credit cards, and I'm paying for all her utilities (water, sewer, garbage, internet, cable TV). That's about 700 bucks a month.

Well helping her out is certaintly your decision but right here is your problem. This and the fact that you live in Califorina. Helping her with just the rent maybe. Why on earth are you paying for her CC debt? Cable TV? Internet? Both things that could be disconnected to save you some money. Does she have a cell?


Well, in a way, this is repayment. She supported me for as long as she could out of college as I was looking for work.
 

xanis

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Originally posted by: LivinLaVivaPollo
Originally posted by: mcvickj
Originally posted by: LivinLaVivaPollo

Because I relocated away from my fiance, and she's having to cover rent on the place we had previously shared, I'm helping her with her rent, credit cards, and I'm paying for all her utilities (water, sewer, garbage, internet, cable TV). That's about 700 bucks a month.

Well helping her out is certaintly your decision but right here is your problem. This and the fact that you live in Califorina. Helping her with just the rent maybe. Why on earth are you paying for her CC debt? Cable TV? Internet? Both things that could be disconnected to save you some money. Does she have a cell?


Well, in a way, this is repayment. She supported me for as long as she could out of college as I was looking for work.

Supported how? Did she basically cover ALL of your living expenses?
 

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Better budgeting? If you make $60k and you're single, no children, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to afford a car in the $20k range.

I know the cost of living is much higher in Cali, but if you're apparently concerned with breaking even, you need to stop living above your means or learn to cut the fat from the things you don't need.

And, as already stated, you have a $700/mo burden that 99% of people don't have.

As fun as it is to be free with your money, there's a perfectly logical reason to be frugal even if you can afford not to be.
 

pontifex

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lol, the money you have left over after all your bills are paid is only like $400 less than what i make a month.

man, if i made that kind of money, i could afford to move out of my parent's house, hell, maybe even own my own house!
 

YoungGun21

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U of I is one of the best engineering schools in the nation.

Incase you wanted to know lol
 

bennylong

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You're single and make $60k and can't afford nice thing for yourself? You have some serious budgeting problem. I made the same amount of money and my rent is $1,600.00 a month and I have plenty left to buy junk for myself that I never use.

Time to get some financial counseling if you can't make it on $60k as a single person!
 

erub

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Those figures sound realistic to me, as figures for Dallas, Phoenix or Atlanta as well, at least as far as the rent goes. So its not just NY or Cali that costs $1250 a month. For all the Cali people on this board, you are not the only place that costs that much (I pay 1300 in ATL for a smaller one bedroom).

Of course, before everybody jumps on top of me, this is figures for Dallas' Uptown, Atlanta's Midtown/Buckhead, or Scottsdale in AZ..where a 20s professoinal would usually want to live, as far as entertainment, activites, etc and convenient to where a lot of engineering jobs are. 60K salary for a new engineering grad in those cities would be about average as well, if not toward the upper tier.

Also, $300-400/month for food, gas, and utilities sound about right. But clearly, your problem is the $700/month towards the girlfriend. Without that, your savings would grow, and you would be able to afford a new car. Most people tend to profit when they get married, as their living expenses get cut in half. I hope you are contributing enough for the full employer 401k match, and doing the Roth IRA as well.
 

Toastedlightly

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My seven person family made it on less than 50k a year (albeit in Minnesota) for 4 years. It is all about cutting the fat, differentiating between wants and needs.
 

KevinH

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Originally posted by: LivinLaVivaPollo
I recently graduated college and was hired as an asic engineer at a company in the North Bay. I make 60K, which I'm assuming is decent money for a recent graduate. But I'm finding it hard to be able to "afford" anything. I wanted to buy myself a nice car, Mazda MS6 or MS3, but don't know where I can squeeze 400 or so dollars a month to be able to afford the car and have money safely left over.

After medical and 401k, I roughly have 3300 dollars a month after taxes. Rent for a one bedroom in the North Bay, in a nice neighborhood, is $1250 for me. So that leaves me ~2K for living expenses.

Because I relocated away from my fiance, and she's having to cover rent on the place we had previously shared, I'm helping her with her rent, credit cards, and I'm paying for all her utilities (water, sewer, garbage, internet, cable TV). That's about 700 bucks a month.

I'm left with about $1300 bucks after all is said and done to pay for my own utilities, food, and gas. Figure that is 300 to 400 dollars, which puts me under the safety threshold of a thousand a month saved. That's if I don't buy anything else. Real life isn't so glamorous. If I get laid off or something, I probably can't even cover next month's rent.

Wow.


In a nutshell you're paying for two people man.
 

HendrixFan

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My take home is around $1900 a month, after medical and 401k and taxes. Thats just a little over half of what you have for take home. Rent for me is $300 a month, I split a three bedroom house with two roommates so my share is pretty cheap. I then have $1600 a month for everything else, not much less than you have at $2000. I pay $360 a month for my Camry, and I still have plenty of money left over for bills, fun and savings. The difference, as others have mentioned, is that I don't pay $700 a month to a gf.

Now, its not quite clear from your original post, but did you live with her and then move, but still are on the lease? I can see from your post that you are paying utilities, which Im sure you aren't signed on for like you would for a lease. You need to decide if she is worth paying $700 a month, especially since she did not move with you (yet). If she is, either hold off on expenses until that situation is cleared up, or hold off on savings.
 

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Originally posted by: LivinLaVivaPollo
I recently graduated college and was hired as an asic engineer at a company in the North Bay. I make 60K, which I'm assuming is decent money for a recent graduate. But I'm finding it hard to be able to "afford" anything. I wanted to buy myself a nice car, Mazda MS6 or MS3, but don't know where I can squeeze 400 or so dollars a month to be able to afford the car and have money safely left over.

After medical and 401k, I roughly have 3300 dollars a month after taxes. Rent for a one bedroom in the North Bay, in a nice neighborhood, is $1250 for me. So that leaves me ~2K for living expenses.

Because I relocated away from my fiance, and she's having to cover rent on the place we had previously shared, I'm helping her with her rent, credit cards, and I'm paying for all her utilities (water, sewer, garbage, internet, cable TV). That's about 700 bucks a month.

I'm left with about $1300 bucks after all is said and done to pay for my own utilities, food, and gas. Figure that is 300 to 400 dollars, which puts me under the safety threshold of a thousand a month saved. That's if I don't buy anything else. Real life isn't so glamorous. If I get laid off or something, I probably can't even cover next month's rent.

Wow.

I found your problem.