Man gives police officer a ticket

[JeffreyLebowski]

Some cops break traffic laws and if they get caught then so be it. There was an incident in DFW a year or so ago where a Dallas cop pulled over an Irving cop or something, and the Irving cop got physically violent with the dallas cop. They said there was almost an hour stand off while they waited for both officers supervisors to show up and straighten it all out.

What most of you people don't understand is, cops put their lives on the line everyday for $35k-$40K a year, and all they get is assholes whining and bitching about them at every opportunity. Why not give them some respect and courtesy and maybe some of them wouldn't act the way they do.

I know lots of officers and am waiting on my backround check to clear to become an officer, and the amount of people that bitch and whine when they get pulled over is astronomical. I've done a ride along and have seen people rip tickets up in an officers face.

 

[Lithium381]

Everyone slows down whenever a cops around on the freeway, i stick to my 5mph over the limit, if the cops going more than that i'll go just as fast.....unless he has his sirens on.....if he doesn't he's got no excuse going that fast

 

[Pacfanweb]

I've seen cops run red lights just because they can many, many times. I've seen, more than once, a cop sitting at a light for a few seconds, decide he was tired of waiting, flip his lights on to get through the light, then turn them off....I happened to be a few cars behind one once......I followed him right to Golden Corral where he was meeting his buddy for lunch.

Everybody has seen cops speeding, and everyone, except the complete idiots, know that most of the time they are not on any sort of a call. They speed because they can.

Now I don't think I'd go as far as pulling one over for a ticket, because I wouldn't want him and all his cop buddies looking out for and harassing me.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: classy
I didn't read where his son got a ticket. He said if my son ran that stop sign he deserves a ticket. The guy is right and the officer deserves a ticket. Don't forget by his running that stop sign, he could have hit someone. The guy is right and hopefully the officer will learn to use correct judgement at all times.

"Last fall, Cagle's son got a ticket for running the same stop sign. But Herman Cagle said that had nothing to do with his signing the warrant"

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: MacBaine
So what's to prevent every citizen from going and making up a story to get a cop ticketed because they were mad about getting in trouble themselves?

Exactly what I am getting at. Citizens don't have the training, nor have they taken an oath or made a commitment.

It doesn't take training to see someone run a stop sign. I don't condone people filing false complaints against the police (which filing a false report is illegal probably everywhere anyway!) but this guy followed him to the police station, less than one block away! There is no slippery slope here.

 

[ValsalvaYourHeartOut]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: brigden
Wow, Mill, you're a total and complete moron. I trust your absense from this thread means you're attempting to remove your head from your arse.

Anyway, I would have just left it. I'm not the type to really give a rat's ass about this kind of thing.

Unfortunately I went to bed, but feel free to think I "ran" from this thread. I still say it was a waste of time, and Viper and Macbaine provided much of the reasoning I was thinking as well. There is simply no way this is effective or teaching someone a lesson. The guy's son got a ticket for running the same stop sign, so he is obviously ticked off about it.

As for everyone else calling me an asshat and moron, good job. No credible argument, no disagreement with what I said. Just a bandwagon pile-on. Congrats.

I wholeheartedly agree with bidgen's assessment that Mill is a "total and complete moron." I couldn't have said it better myself. The bottom line is this:

It is 100% irrelevant that the civilan had a grudge against cops because his son got a ticket. It is also 100% irrelevant that the civilian was not acting in good faith. The bottom line is that the police officer ran a stop sign when he clearly was NOT involved in an activity that allowed him to do so (e.g. responding to a call) - and this is clear because the policeman arrived at the police station moments later. I think this incident brings up an excellent point about a global lack of strict regulation of our law enforcement officers - that is, who polices our police? Running a stop sign is dangerous, regardless of who's driving the car. A police officer should be held accountable if he does so without justification, and I'm glad a civilian called him on it.

Of course, this might be difficult for Mill to understand given his preoccupation with his pretentious self.

Valsalva

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: ValsalvaYourHeartOut

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: brigden
Wow, Mill, you're a total and complete moron. I trust your absense from this thread means you're attempting to remove your head from your arse.

Anyway, I would have just left it. I'm not the type to really give a rat's ass about this kind of thing.

Unfortunately I went to bed, but feel free to think I "ran" from this thread. I still say it was a waste of time, and Viper and Macbaine provided much of the reasoning I was thinking as well. There is simply no way this is effective or teaching someone a lesson. The guy's son got a ticket for running the same stop sign, so he is obviously ticked off about it.

As for everyone else calling me an asshat and moron, good job. No credible argument, no disagreement with what I said. Just a bandwagon pile-on. Congrats.

I wholeheartedly agree with bidgen's assessment that Mill is a "total and complete moron." I couldn't have said it better myself. The bottom line is this:

It is 100% irrelevant that the civilan had a grudge against cops because his son got a ticket. It is also 100% irrelevant that the civilian was not acting in good faith. The bottom line is that the police officer ran a stop sign when he clearly was NOT involved in an activity that allowed him to do so (e.g. responding to a call) - and this is clear because the policeman arrived at the police station moments later. I think this incident brings up an excellent point about a global lack of strict regulation of our law enforcement officers - that is, who polices our police? Running a stop sign is dangerous, regardless of who's driving the car. A police officer should be held accountable if he does so without justification, and I'm glad a civilian called him on it.

Of course, this might be difficult for Mill to understand given his preoccupation with his pretentious self.

Valsalva

So now you are searching for my username because I flamed you? Speaking of "...his preoccupation with his pretentious self." Pot meet kettle.

 

[ValsalvaYourHeartOut]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: ValsalvaYourHeartOut

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: brigden
Wow, Mill, you're a total and complete moron. I trust your absense from this thread means you're attempting to remove your head from your arse.

Anyway, I would have just left it. I'm not the type to really give a rat's ass about this kind of thing.

Unfortunately I went to bed, but feel free to think I "ran" from this thread. I still say it was a waste of time, and Viper and Macbaine provided much of the reasoning I was thinking as well. There is simply no way this is effective or teaching someone a lesson. The guy's son got a ticket for running the same stop sign, so he is obviously ticked off about it.

As for everyone else calling me an asshat and moron, good job. No credible argument, no disagreement with what I said. Just a bandwagon pile-on. Congrats.

I wholeheartedly agree with bidgen's assessment that Mill is a "total and complete moron." I couldn't have said it better myself. The bottom line is this:

It is 100% irrelevant that the civilan had a grudge against cops because his son got a ticket. It is also 100% irrelevant that the civilian was not acting in good faith. The bottom line is that the police officer ran a stop sign when he clearly was NOT involved in an activity that allowed him to do so (e.g. responding to a call) - and this is clear because the policeman arrived at the police station moments later. I think this incident brings up an excellent point about a global lack of strict regulation of our law enforcement officers - that is, who polices our police? Running a stop sign is dangerous, regardless of who's driving the car. A police officer should be held accountable if he does so without justification, and I'm glad a civilian called him on it.

Of course, this might be difficult for Mill to understand given his preoccupation with his pretentious self.

Valsalva

So now you are searching for my username because I flamed you? Speaking of "...his preoccupation with his pretentious self." Pot meet kettle.

Actually, no...I thought the title of this thread was interesting, and I was appalled by the moronic followup posts made by the OP - I wasn't surprised to find that they came from you. At any rate, I invite you to address my points. You are welcome to consult your English-to-Moron Dictionary if you need any help.

Valsalva

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: ValsalvaYourHeartOut

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: ValsalvaYourHeartOut

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: brigden
Wow, Mill, you're a total and complete moron. I trust your absense from this thread means you're attempting to remove your head from your arse.

Anyway, I would have just left it. I'm not the type to really give a rat's ass about this kind of thing.

Unfortunately I went to bed, but feel free to think I "ran" from this thread. I still say it was a waste of time, and Viper and Macbaine provided much of the reasoning I was thinking as well. There is simply no way this is effective or teaching someone a lesson. The guy's son got a ticket for running the same stop sign, so he is obviously ticked off about it.

As for everyone else calling me an asshat and moron, good job. No credible argument, no disagreement with what I said. Just a bandwagon pile-on. Congrats.

I wholeheartedly agree with bidgen's assessment that Mill is a "total and complete moron." I couldn't have said it better myself. The bottom line is this:

It is 100% irrelevant that the civilan had a grudge against cops because his son got a ticket. It is also 100% irrelevant that the civilian was not acting in good faith. The bottom line is that the police officer ran a stop sign when he clearly was NOT involved in an activity that allowed him to do so (e.g. responding to a call) - and this is clear because the policeman arrived at the police station moments later. I think this incident brings up an excellent point about a global lack of strict regulation of our law enforcement officers - that is, who polices our police? Running a stop sign is dangerous, regardless of who's driving the car. A police officer should be held accountable if he does so without justification, and I'm glad a civilian called him on it.

Of course, this might be difficult for Mill to understand given his preoccupation with his pretentious self.

Valsalva

So now you are searching for my username because I flamed you? Speaking of "...his preoccupation with his pretentious self." Pot meet kettle.

Actually, no...I thought the title of this thread was interesting, and I was appalled by the moronic followup posts made by the OP - I wasn't surprised to find that they came from you. At any rate, I invite you to address my points. You are welcome to consult your English-to-Moron Dictionary if you need any help.

Valsalva

What points do you want addressed? The police are policed by their superiors and citizen review boards. You said everything else I said was irrelevant, but I think it was very relevant. I'm sorry you are obsessed with me. You haven't posted in OT in forever, and there have been much more interesting topics than this. I honestly hate when people follow me around.

 

[krunchykrome]

Very inspiring article.

 

[ucdbiendog]

good. i hate police.

 

[TallBill]

It is a waste of time. The man has no proof. Hell, even a cops word seems no good anymore unless a camera is on scene.

 

[Pepsi90919]

some of you guys need to realize that some traffic law actually exempts police and emergency vehicles from certain laws.

 

[iwearnosox]

I just elected myself the ATOT police. Moderators, beware.

 

Originally posted by: Sifl
I just elected myself the ATOT police. Moderators, beware.

Y'all better watch y'allselves. Thar's a new sheriff in town, and he dun wears nosox!

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
some of you guys need to realize that some traffic law actually exempts police and emergency vehicles from certain laws.

YOU need to realize the law says that's ok only when responding to an emergency.

 

[ValsalvaYourHeartOut]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: ValsalvaYourHeartOut

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: ValsalvaYourHeartOut

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: brigden
Wow, Mill, you're a total and complete moron. I trust your absense from this thread means you're attempting to remove your head from your arse.

Anyway, I would have just left it. I'm not the type to really give a rat's ass about this kind of thing.

Unfortunately I went to bed, but feel free to think I "ran" from this thread. I still say it was a waste of time, and Viper and Macbaine provided much of the reasoning I was thinking as well. There is simply no way this is effective or teaching someone a lesson. The guy's son got a ticket for running the same stop sign, so he is obviously ticked off about it.

As for everyone else calling me an asshat and moron, good job. No credible argument, no disagreement with what I said. Just a bandwagon pile-on. Congrats.

I wholeheartedly agree with bidgen's assessment that Mill is a "total and complete moron." I couldn't have said it better myself. The bottom line is this:

It is 100% irrelevant that the civilan had a grudge against cops because his son got a ticket. It is also 100% irrelevant that the civilian was not acting in good faith. The bottom line is that the police officer ran a stop sign when he clearly was NOT involved in an activity that allowed him to do so (e.g. responding to a call) - and this is clear because the policeman arrived at the police station moments later. I think this incident brings up an excellent point about a global lack of strict regulation of our law enforcement officers - that is, who polices our police? Running a stop sign is dangerous, regardless of who's driving the car. A police officer should be held accountable if he does so without justification, and I'm glad a civilian called him on it.

Of course, this might be difficult for Mill to understand given his preoccupation with his pretentious self.

Valsalva

So now you are searching for my username because I flamed you? Speaking of "...his preoccupation with his pretentious self." Pot meet kettle.

Actually, no...I thought the title of this thread was interesting, and I was appalled by the moronic followup posts made by the OP - I wasn't surprised to find that they came from you. At any rate, I invite you to address my points. You are welcome to consult your English-to-Moron Dictionary if you need any help.

Valsalva

What points do you want addressed? The police are policed by their superiors and citizen review boards. You said everything else I said was irrelevant, but I think it was very relevant. I'm sorry you are obsessed with me. You haven't posted in OT in forever, and there have been much more interesting topics than this. I honestly hate when people follow me around.

Is that right, smart guy? In that case, when was the last time you saw a police officer pulling over another police officer for speeding? In fact, most of the time, if a cop is pulled over off-duty in his regular car and he gets pulled over, his plates will register as being law-enforcement and he'll get off scott-free. So you see, there is almost ZERO effective regulation of cops making traffic violations.

And the notion that I'm "following" you around despite the fact that a) I already explained to you how I stumbled upon this thread and b) posting a single reply to single thread of yours suggests the following to me - that you narcissistic tendencies preclude you. Don't flatter yourself, chief.

Valsalva

 

[blakeatwork]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
If the police were held to every traffic rule they would never get anything done.

While they are certainly not completely exempt, no civilian should be able to cause an officer this much hassle.

Until you are privy to everything going on inside the squad car you are in no position to object to minor speeding, rolling stop signs, etc.

I would fully support punishment for gross abuses of authority (ie using lights/sirens for personal reasons), but "giving a cop a ticket" for rolling a stop sign is petty at best.

If we expect them to do their jobs we must allow them to use their discretion in some areas (while performing their duties).

Viper GTS

The argument is because there were no lights/sirens to warn other motorists that a vehicle was going through a Stop Sign intersetcion. As well, with the officer turning into the Station a block later, doesn't lend itself to the argument that he was going to an emergency. He got caught, adn as such, will probably get a reprimand or stern talking to, but no more. I do pity the guy who complained though. They're going to watching his ass like Richard Simmons at a Male Model Party...

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: ucdbiendog
good. i hate police.

I hope you get raped in an alley.

 

[911paramedic]

ValsalvaYourHeartOut <--lmao, I wonder how many people know what that means.

That's classic. :beer:

 

[dxkj]

Originally posted by: Shockwave
Waste of time my ass. Cops are NOT exempt from the law. And if he did indeed run the stop sign he should be ticketed. In fact a similiar situation happened to my uncle. He did a U-turn or something minor which caused him to get pulled over. Well, in order to get pulled over the cop had to do something illegal too (I believe a U-turn). He said he'd gladly sign his ticket if the cop was issued a ticket for the same thing. The police chief was called out to the scene and backed my Uncle up. If my Uncle got a ticket, so did the cop. Ended up the cop gave him a warning

Umm thats a very stupid story. A cop is allowed to do many things in order to apprehend someone breaking the law, and Im pretty sure a U-turn is covered. You or your Uncle are full of shit.

 

[theNEOone]

Originally posted by: ValsalvaYourHeartOut

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: brigden
Wow, Mill, you're a total and complete moron. I trust your absense from this thread means you're attempting to remove your head from your arse.

Anyway, I would have just left it. I'm not the type to really give a rat's ass about this kind of thing.

Unfortunately I went to bed, but feel free to think I "ran" from this thread. I still say it was a waste of time, and Viper and Macbaine provided much of the reasoning I was thinking as well. There is simply no way this is effective or teaching someone a lesson. The guy's son got a ticket for running the same stop sign, so he is obviously ticked off about it.

As for everyone else calling me an asshat and moron, good job. No credible argument, no disagreement with what I said. Just a bandwagon pile-on. Congrats.

I wholeheartedly agree with bidgen's assessment that Mill is a "total and complete moron." I couldn't have said it better myself. The bottom line is this:

It is 100% irrelevant that the civilan had a grudge against cops because his son got a ticket. It is also 100% irrelevant that the civilian was not acting in good faith. The bottom line is that the police officer ran a stop sign when he clearly was NOT involved in an activity that allowed him to do so (e.g. responding to a call) - and this is clear because the policeman arrived at the police station moments later. I think this incident brings up an excellent point about a global lack of strict regulation of our law enforcement officers - that is, who polices our police? Running a stop sign is dangerous, regardless of who's driving the car. A police officer should be held accountable if he does so without justification, and I'm glad a civilian called him on it.

Of course, this might be difficult for Mill to understand given his preoccupation with his pretentious self.

Valsalva

i'm jumping on the bandwagon....and for good reason. mill you're a dumbass. originally, you just had a misguided opinion, but you quickly turned in to a dumbass that's just plain wrong.

good job valsalva in reconstructing the actual issues at heart. the reason for traffic laws is to insure motor safety. let me ask you a question mill, had the police officer caused an accident, injury, or death, as a result of him driving through the stop sign would it still be a waste of time to prosecute him for his "traffic violation" or should we just shrug it off and say, "eh, he's a cop - it's ok for him not to follow the traffic laws."

=|

 

[PHiuR]

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Mill


As for the story about the U-turn. BS. An officer can break a traffic law to apprehend a suspect or to enforce traffic laws. How the hell do you think they catch speeders hiding in the median, or chase in a high-speed pursuit?

1) I'm aware they can break the law to apprehend suspects
2) The story has made up parts. The biggets being I dont remember what the infraction was, but it was a case where my uncle did it and the cop did it as well, as under the conditions the cop did it were just as illegal.
3) Your stiking me as quite the dumbass this morning.

1. Your OP doesn't sound like it.
2. Sure it did.
3. That's just a reflection of yourself.

Wow, such amazing arguments.
You = teh dumbass. Confirmed.

Confirmed. Hey mill, how does it feel being on the other side of people jumping on the banwagon running all over you. Not pleasant, heh?

PWNT!

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
ValsalvaYourHeartOut <--lmao, I wonder how many people know what that means.

That's classic. :beer:

isn't that the low heart rate condition you get when exerting yourself while holding your breath?

<---isn't a doctor, but plays one on AT.

 

[imported_Mike]

The ticket is a waste of time as the suspension without pay would have sufficed. Making the cop accountable for what he did is not a waste of time, but dragging him & yourself & using court time & cost is a waste of time/money. Not condoning that cops can misuse the law, but taking him off the streets & into a court room for something that already had a consequence is a waste of time...IMHO