Man executed by US on bogus DNA evidence.

[desy]

I am saying if you took 100 blacks convicted of murder where DP is a possible sentance and 100 whites same crime more black guys are going to die. Which is what that state found it ain't just me.

Here we go this site says it all sorry for the no link I never get it right.
http://www.illinoismoratorium.org/wrong.html
We try to make it work!

 

[NesuD]

<< What you have just explained is known as a reasonable doubt, and as far as I know, no defendant should be convicted of a crime if there exists a reasonable doubt as to their guilt. >>



GL,

You are mistaken what i outlined wasn't a reasonable doubt scenario. without knowing what other evidence of guilt was presented at his trial I am certain the lack of dna evidence would not have created a reasonable doubt in and of itself. I was trying to point out the fact that the dna evidence did not implicate another person it is therfore irrelevant and doesn't in any way prove his innocense. If there was enough other physical evidence Like maybe a murder weapon with his finger prints on it and a couple eye witnesses that may have seen him in that area at the time of the murder he may still have been guilty. If there was also evidence like that presented in the trial then the bogus dna evidence would most likely have made no difference in the outcome as it did not indicate that anyone else may have done it so there would be no reasonable doubt.

 

[sandorski]

Death! to the Death Penalty!!!

There is no reason why any civilized and wealthy nation needs it. None.

 

[Napalm]

I think the US should keep the death penalty. It keeps you guys in the same league as China and Iraq - they also prefer dealing with their criminals by killing them.

N

 

[Ferocious]

I've written this here at least a dozen times, but I'll repeat it:

The death penalty must be abolished immediately, because the rich and powerful are exempt from it.

 

[Squisher]

I seek no revenge by the death of a criminal. A society needs to ask its justice system is to seek to rectify the wrongs perpitrated by those who seek to step outside of the law. Since it would be impossible to make the criminal restore the life that they took the only just exchange would be give their own life.

Considering the way the death penalty has been administered I would think the present system should be changed so as to remove any shadow of a doubt as to the guilt of the criminal.

 

[Mursilis]

<< I've written this here at least a dozen times, but I'll repeat it:

The death penalty must be abolished immediately, because the rich and powerful are exempt from it. >>


I feel the same way about the income tax!!

 

[DDCSpeed]

It must be a cover up...US conspiracy...*DIED*

the us government got to me...therefore I cant finish what I was saying. J/K. Why would anyone want to frame someone?

 

[gopunk]

The death penalty must be abolished immediately, because the rich and powerful are exempt from it.

why don't we kill them off as well?

personally, i think we should the victim's and/or their families decide punishment

 

[hoe4damoney]

<< The death penalty must be abolished immediately, because the rich and powerful are exempt from it.

why don't we kill them off as well?

personally, i think we should the victim's and/or their families decide punishment >>



This is in fact the case in (saudi arabia?) there was a big fuss here (australia) becuase an australian nurse was murdered by her british colleague in saudi arabia and under saudi law her family in australia could decide whether to apply the death penalty or not.

In the end they declined the death penalty in return for around $1M US from the killer and gave all the money to a childrens hospital.

These were ordinary people in an extraordinary situation and I think they handled it well.

How well would you cope with making that choice under the glare of the media?

"editted format"

 

[Cyberian]

<< I'm not saying that all criminals should be put to death. Only the ones who commit really horrible crimes and who are clearly guilty. And it's not for revenge -- it's for the small chance that they could escape and commit more crimes. >>


Good thought. The only problem with this approach is who gets to decide.

 

[StormRider]

<< But why immediate execution? Just imagine what those persons could be used for, they could be used for various tests, research on the Human mind etc. They don't have a life anymore, so why not make them 'volunteers' for scientific research? That way they'll serve society after all.

I just can't help but seeing executing someone, no matter what that person did as a crime on itself. Why wasting valuable resources?
>>



Well, I don't think we should execute immediately. But I also don't think they should have a super long waiting period. I agree that we should try to understand why they are the way they are so that society can try to avoid any possible environmental causes for what these people have become.

The only bad thing about studying some of these criminals is that sometimes books are written about them and they sort of become "famous anti-heroes" in the eyes of some.

 

[StormRider]

<< << I'm not saying that all criminals should be put to death. Only the ones who commit really horrible crimes and who are clearly guilty. And it's not for revenge -- it's for the small chance that they could escape and commit more crimes. >>


Good thought. The only problem with this approach is who gets to decide. >>



Good question -- unfortunately, I don't have an easy answer. I know that I personally think the type of criminals that should get the death penalty are those that seem to show a lack of compassion for their victims. Those are the types that seem dangerous if they escape.

For example, the kind of guy that car jacks a young mother with her child at gunpoint, withdraws money using her ATM card, and then takes her to a remote location and shoots her in the head leaving the baby in the woods. This actually happened (the family stopped at a gas station after returning from a vacation. They stopped because the husband and her brother wanted to get some snacks. As she was changing her babies diapers, a man took her away in her car at gun point).

I don't understand why he felt like he should kill her. He got her money, why kill her?