Man drinks lye during car chase in attempt to hide crystal meth ingrediant from cops

[halik]

hahah im highly doubtfull that he'll survive,
his esophagus and stomach have to be gone fo sho

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: halik
hahah im highly doubtfull that he'll survive,
his esophagus and stomach have to be gone fo sho

no kidding

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: jagec

weed I can see, but you want to legalize cocaine and meth?

Yep. It's time to stop spending billions per year to send people to prison for drugs, and billions more to try to keep drugs off the streets.

Since the Reagan era, we have made our laws on drugs harsher and harsher, and spent untold billions on enforcement, and cocaine is CHEAPER now than it was 25 years ago! We have a greater percentage of our population in prison than any country in the world, and violent offenders have to be paroled to make room for drug offenders. It's madness. Meanwhile, the illegal drug trade subsidizes gang activity and organized crime, leading to God knows how many deaths per year.

If we legalized and taxed drugs, the revenue would be tremendous, and would allow us to spend a lot more on drug education/prevention/treatment. I have had enough of seeing my tax dollars going to waste on this crap.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: jagec

weed I can see, but you want to legalize cocaine and meth?

Yep. It's time to stop spending billions per year to send people to prison for drugs, and billions more to try to keep drugs off the streets.

Since the Reagan era, we have made our laws on drugs harsher and harsher, and spent untold billions on enforcement, and cocaine is CHEAPER now than it was 25 years ago! We have a greater percentage of our population in prison than any country in the world, and violent offenders have to be paroled to make room for drug offenders. It's madness. Meanwhile, the illegal drug trade subsidizes gang activity and organized crime, leading to God knows how many deaths per year.

If we legalized and taxed drugs, the revenue would be tremendous, and would allow us to spend a lot more on drug education/prevention/treatment. I have had enough of seeing my tax dollars going to waste on this crap.

and wed be a nation of crack heads

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Vic

Except that he's so stupid as to eat lye (and really deserves a Darwin for that), what bright side? The drug laws are failed and should be rescinded. None of these events would have occurred, including the poisoning incident, if it weren't for these sadistic laws that only benefit law enforcement and the legal system, and in fact harm society (what's next? I can't make my own soap or clean my own drain? :roll: ).

In this instance (and my comments above to that effect was more than a little tongue-in-cheek), his death was the bright side.

I am generally in favor of legalizing all drugs, but meth, in particular, is an incredibly destructive force in many parts of the country - the drug itself is incredibly harmful, and there is a great deal of secondary crime (theft and violent crime) and environmental harm (caused by abandoned meth labs) related to meth. I don't support our drug laws, but I have no real problem with this moron being taken out of commission.

weed I can see, but you want to legalize cocaine and meth?

Yes.

What's the problem? Do you think people are going to run out and start doing cocaine and meth just because it's legal? Do you think that having them illegal makes people not do them?

It's time to get real. The key to drug use prevention is education. Real education, not lies and bullsh!t propaganda like DARE.

Prohibition solves nothing, as the prohibition against alcohol has shown quite well. People that do drugs are going to do drugs, and there is nothing you can do to stop them. However, making it legal solves nearly all of the problems "associated" with drug use. Drugs are expensive because they are illegal. Drugs being expensive gives drug dealers a reason to sell drugs. High drug prices create the need for drug users to commit criminal acts to get their next fix. It's a huge spiral, and it needs to stop. The only way to get it to stop is to take a proactive approach to drug use.

Locking people up for getting high is about as back-asswards as you can get.

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

and wed be a nation of crack heads

Name one person that doesen't snort cocaine or shoot heroin or even drink alcohol "because it's illegal"

There are probably about 3 on the entire planet.

We need to look no further than The Netherlands to see the effects of legalized drugs. There is very little drug crime. Drug use is actually lower than before.

It's not rocket science.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

and wed be a nation of crack heads

Perhaps. These drugs are already very widely available. It's hard to say for sure whether overall usage would go through the roof. In any case, I'd like to see the penalties brought way, way down.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Citrix
"By this time the lye was really working on him," said Smith. "I'm not going to describe what it looked like except to say I've seen a lot of things in the years I've been in law enforcement, but none of them were as bad as this."

i know im morbid. but i want to know what it did to him.

MSDS on potassium hydroxide aka caustic soda aka lye

Lye is a highly caustic alkaline. When combined with water in solution (which it does readily), it can cause severe chemical burns.

edit: Poison Control advice on potassium hydroxide poisoning... not good

Damage continues to occur to the esophagus and stomach for several weeks after the potassium hydroxide was swallowed, and death may occur as long as a month later.

Dayum... I wonder if he'll die.

Maybe they can very effectivly neutralize the alkali nowadays to prevent further damage...

Basic chemistry says his stomach acids probably neutralized a good part of it. The stuff in his esophagus though... He could go drink a beaker of hydrochloric acid as that would neutralize it...

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: jagec

weed I can see, but you want to legalize cocaine and meth?

Yep. It's time to stop spending billions per year to send people to prison for drugs, and billions more to try to keep drugs off the streets.

Since the Reagan era, we have made our laws on drugs harsher and harsher, and spent untold billions on enforcement, and cocaine is CHEAPER now than it was 25 years ago! We have a greater percentage of our population in prison than any country in the world, and violent offenders have to be paroled to make room for drug offenders. It's madness. Meanwhile, the illegal drug trade subsidizes gang activity and organized crime, leading to God knows how many deaths per year.

If we legalized and taxed drugs, the revenue would be tremendous, and would allow us to spend a lot more on drug education/prevention/treatment. I have had enough of seeing my tax dollars going to waste on this crap.

Wow, Vito I am impressed that we see eye to eye on this.

:beer: for you since you have an esophagus...

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Damage continues to occur to the esophagus and stomach for several weeks after the potassium hydroxide was swallowed, and death may occur as long as a month later.

 

[Vic]

Correction to my earlier post, Red Devil Lye is Sodium Hydroxide, not potassium hydroxide, my bad.
The compounds are nearly identical, with more or less the exact same lethal effects on the human body.

MSDS

Poison Control

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Vic
Correction to my earlier post, Red Devil Lye is Sodium Hydroxide, not potassium hydroxide, my bad.
The compounds are nearly identical, with more or less the exact same lethal effects on the human body.

MSDS

Poison Control

Ahh.. Durr...

I was going to say, I have a bottle of potassium hydroxide sitting right next to me, and while I wouldn't drink it.. it doesen't seem to be as dangerous as lye.. lol

Surprised I didn't catch that.

But yeah, you're right... much similar symtpoms.

 

[0roo0roo]

might as well do that considernig the drug laws...hard hard time.

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: Vic

edit: Poison Control advice on potassium hydroxide poisoning... not good

Link fixed