Man drinks lye during car chase in attempt to hide crystal meth ingrediant from cops

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Southeast Mississippi Drug Task Force Agent Chris Smith said Monday a man he and other agents of the task force became involved in a car chase early Friday morning with apparently drank an undetermined amount of Red Devil Lye. The suspect was allegedly attempting to hide the crystal methamphetamine precursor from law enforcement.

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"We aren't releasing his name at this time because the investigation into the incident is still ongoing," Smith said. "And there is a possibility the suspect may not live through this as well. But if he does recover, he will be charged with offenses stemming from the incident."

Smith said he and fellow SMDTF Agent Trea Staples had just finished working a felony drug arrest on Hill Street in Ellisville around 12:15 a.m. Friday when they noticed a small two door car zooming backwards up the Exit 88 on-ramp. When the two agents tried to approach the vehicle to make a stop, the driver reportedly turned north on Interstate 59 in an attempt to flee.

"We pursued with an Ellisville unit and the chase went through Laurel and out Highway 84 East," Smith said. "It was at that time we think he decided to try and get rid of the evidence he thought he had."

The chase wound down near Lake Bogue Homa when Smith said the suspect's vehicle slowly pulled off onto the grass. The agents had to break the driver's side window in order to gain access to the suspect and open the door.








"By this time the lye was really working on him," said Smith. "I'm not going to describe what it looked like except to say I've seen a lot of things in the years I've been in law enforcement, but none of them were as bad as this."

The suspect was transported to South Central Regional Medical Center and then later to University Medical Center in Jackson where Sunday he was listed in critical condition.

"I can't think of any reason why someone would think drinking this stuff, which is a primary material to manufacturing crystal meth, wouldn't hurt them," Smith said. "This whole incident just blew my mind."

Drug trafficking arrest

SMDTF Agent Stan Livingston said another operation, this time around 5:30 p.m. Thursday, resulted in the arrest of one of the task force's most notorious subjects.

Janice Jones, 49, of Amy Knight Road in Soso, was arrested and charged with multiple counts pertaining to drug trafficking in the area.

"She has been a subject under surveillance for some time with us, and the many tips and bits of information we've received from the public have helped us to end this phase of the case," said Livingston.

Jones was charged with possession with intent to distribute crack cocaine and two counts of the sale of crack cocaine. Livingston said the investigation into Jones' activities have spanned the last three months.

Thanks to the tips, we were able to get her routine down pretty good," he said. "She is what we would call a very active dealer and we are glad to get her off the streets and roads of Jones County."

An unspecified amount of crack was reportedly taken off Jones along with an undisclosed amount of cash. Jones also was said to be in possession of drug paraphernalia and that charge, according to Livingston, will be added to her case.

Jones was placed on $75,000 bond in Jones County Justice Court Friday.

Marijuana plants found

Working off the information provided by a confidential informant, Smith and Staples Friday afternoon uncovered approximately a dozen marijuana plants growing in a section of woods in southern Jones County. Staples said the exact location and the suspect are being kept confidential until a more accurate description and possible whereabouts of the individual can be ascertained.

"We have someone in mind, but we just haven't quite gotten to the point of making our move," Staples said. "The time will come though."

Staples estimated had the plants been allowed to grow to maturity, the street value of the marijuana produced could have exceeded $8,500.

"That's a pretty good return on a plot about 12-feet square," Staples said. "Unfortunately for this person, they won't be getting it."
 

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Mmmmm that always quenches my thirst too. I just hate the intense burning and raw feeling I get in my throat afterwards not to mention the incessant projectile vomiting.
 

jagec

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wow. well, another one bites the dust I guess...the world bids goodbye to someone who was both (1) a drug dealer and (2) incredibly stupid.
 

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*adding this to the list of things to remember, if/when I ever start manufacturing illegal drugs & get chased by cops
 

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Originally posted by: notfred
Wow, what a dumbsh!t. It's for cleaning freaking drains, it's legal.

"you mean just because I bought it at a supermarket, means I CAN'T be arrested for owning it? Wow!"
 

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When did possession of Red Devil Lye become a crime? :confused:
It's sold in grocery stores and has many household uses, one of which is that it is the best way to deal with a clogged drain. Of course it should be kept away from children as it is poisonous as hell and will cause chemical burns if mixed with water...
 

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"By this time the lye was really working on him," said Smith. "I'm not going to describe what it looked like except to say I've seen a lot of things in the years I've been in law enforcement, but none of them were as bad as this."

i know im morbid. but i want to know what it did to him.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Citrix
"By this time the lye was really working on him," said Smith. "I'm not going to describe what it looked like except to say I've seen a lot of things in the years I've been in law enforcement, but none of them were as bad as this."

i know im morbid. but i want to know what it did to him.
MSDS on potassium hydroxide aka caustic soda aka lye

Lye is a highly caustic alkaline. When combined with water in solution (which it does readily), it can cause severe chemical burns.

edit: Poison Control advice on potassium hydroxide poisoning... not good
 

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Originally posted by: Citrix
"By this time the lye was really working on him," said Smith. "I'm not going to describe what it looked like except to say I've seen a lot of things in the years I've been in law enforcement, but none of them were as bad as this."

i know im morbid. but i want to know what it did to him.
To paraphrase Kurt Vonnegut(sp?), he became a little volcano.
 
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Many states and, I believe, the federal government have criminalized possessing precursor chemicals to meth, with the intent to manufacture. The guy might well have been prosecuted for possessing the lye, even though the chemical itself is not illegal, if there was circumstantial evidence suggesting he planned to use it illegally. I don't know whether that was true in this case (though it certainly sounds that way). On the bright side, this is a fairly inexpensive way to remove him from society and the gene poll in one fell swoop.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Many states and, I believe, the federal government have criminalized possessing precursor chemicals to meth, with the intent to manufacture. The guy might well have been prosecuted for possessing the lye, even though the chemical itself is not illegal, if there was circumstantial evidence suggesting he planned to use it illegally. I don't know whether that was true in this case (though it certainly sounds that way). On the bright side, this is a fairly inexpensive way to remove him from society and the gene poll in one fell swoop.
Except that he's so stupid as to eat lye (and really deserves a Darwin for that), what bright side? The drug laws are failed and should be rescinded. None of these events would have occurred, including the poisoning incident, if it weren't for these sadistic laws that only benefit law enforcement and the legal system, and in fact harm society (what's next? I can't make my own soap or clean my own drain? :roll: ).
 

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Many states and, I believe, the federal government have criminalized possessing precursor chemicals to meth, with the intent to manufacture. The guy might well have been prosecuted for possessing the lye, even though the chemical itself is not illegal, if there was circumstantial evidence suggesting he planned to use it illegally. I don't know whether that was true in this case (though it certainly sounds that way). On the bright side, this is a fairly inexpensive way to remove him from society and the gene poll in one fell swoop.
Except that he's so stupid as to eat lye (and really deserves a Darwin for that), what bright side? The drug laws are failed and should be rescinded. None of these events would have occurred, including the poisoning incident, if it weren't for these sadistic laws that only benefit law enforcement and the legal system, and in fact harm society (what's next? I can't make my own soap or clean my own drain? :roll: ).

I dunno, I can easily see how this law could go wrong (cop doesn't like you, "hey you have a bag of fertilizer, must be planning to make a bomb"), but if there is a HEAVY burden of proof on the side of law enforcement, it could be OK. Like, they have to find the drug lab in your basement.
 

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So why are they trying to bring him back to life on our tax dollars just to put him in jail by using our tax dollars? :confused: Let the moron die. Keeping people like him alive is what's fusking up the gene pool. :p <edit> and wasting money! </edit>
 

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Citrix
"By this time the lye was really working on him," said Smith. "I'm not going to describe what it looked like except to say I've seen a lot of things in the years I've been in law enforcement, but none of them were as bad as this."

i know im morbid. but i want to know what it did to him.
MSDS on potassium hydroxide aka caustic soda aka lye

Lye is a highly caustic alkaline. When combined with water in solution (which it does readily), it can cause severe chemical burns.

edit: Poison Control advice on potassium hydroxide poisoning... not good
Damage continues to occur to the esophagus and stomach for several weeks after the potassium hydroxide was swallowed, and death may occur as long as a month later.

Dayum... I wonder if he'll die.

Maybe they can very effectivly neutralize the alkali nowadays to prevent further damage...
 
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Originally posted by: Vic

Except that he's so stupid as to eat lye (and really deserves a Darwin for that), what bright side? The drug laws are failed and should be rescinded. None of these events would have occurred, including the poisoning incident, if it weren't for these sadistic laws that only benefit law enforcement and the legal system, and in fact harm society (what's next? I can't make my own soap or clean my own drain? :roll: ).

In this instance (and my comments above to that effect was more than a little tongue-in-cheek), his death was the bright side.

I am generally in favor of legalizing all drugs, but meth, in particular, is an incredibly destructive force in many parts of the country - the drug itself is incredibly harmful, and there is a great deal of secondary crime (theft and violent crime) and environmental harm (caused by abandoned meth labs) related to meth. I don't support our drug laws, but I have no real problem with this moron being taken out of commission.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Originally posted by: Vic

Except that he's so stupid as to eat lye (and really deserves a Darwin for that), what bright side? The drug laws are failed and should be rescinded. None of these events would have occurred, including the poisoning incident, if it weren't for these sadistic laws that only benefit law enforcement and the legal system, and in fact harm society (what's next? I can't make my own soap or clean my own drain? :roll: ).

In this instance (and my comments above to that effect was more than a little tongue-in-cheek), his death was the bright side.

I am generally in favor of legalizing all drugs, but meth, in particular, is an incredibly destructive force in many parts of the country - the drug itself is incredibly harmful, and there is a great deal of secondary crime (theft and violent crime) and environmental harm (caused by abandoned meth labs) related to meth. I don't support our drug laws, but I have no real problem with this moron being taken out of commission.

weed I can see, but you want to legalize cocaine and meth? :confused: