Man deters package thieves

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deustroop

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DECISION: Case dismissed

Written Reasons to be released within 10 days

Oral Reasons From the Bench : It has been a legal precept since at least the 17th century, that no one may enter a home, unless by invitation. This was established as common law: A man's home is his castle and if uninvited, you trespass at your own risk. While it goes averred that a home owner is not licensed thereby to bring the wrath of god on an innocent intruder, let the general principle be undeterred in these circumstances. The plaintiff entered to do harm and was hisself harmed in return. Both irony and the principle above enunciated confirm the decision of the Court.The normally harmless noise caused by the defendant's device may well have caused some of the harm alleged but since my decision on liability finds for the defendant I need not rule on damages .
Costs to the defendant . Please make submissions within 7 days.
 

Rifter

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This right here is the problem with modern society, guy tries to stop porch thieves and might end up getting charged himself. I mean you wouldn't want to actually charge the fucking thieves or anything...
 
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takeru

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"innocent intruder"?

DECISION: Case dismissed
Written Reasons to be released within 10 days

Oral Reasons From the Bench : It has been a legal precept since at least the 17th century, that no one may enter a home, unless by invitation. This was established as common law: A man's home is his castle and if uninvited, you trespass at your own risk. While it goes averred that a home owner is not licensed thereby to bring the wrath of god on an innocent intruder, let the general principle be undeterred in these circumstances. The plaintiff entered to do harm and was hisself harmed in return. Both irony and the principle above enunciated confirm the decision of the Court.The normally harmless noise caused by the defendant's device may well have caused some of the harm alleged but since my decision on liability finds for the defendant I need not rule on damages .
Costs to the defendant . Please make submissions within 7 days.
 

lefenzy

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"innocent intruder"?

This was established as common law: A man's home is his castle and if uninvited, you trespass at your own risk. While it goes averred that a home owner is not licensed thereby to bring the wrath of god on an innocent intruder, let the general principle be undeterred in these circumstances.

Yes. Second sentence basically says, while a homeowner can't just shoot someone for trespassing (maybe only in Texas), the general principle, "A man's home is his castle and if uninvited, you trespass at your own risk," stands in this case.
 

BarkingGhostar

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Yes. Second sentence basically says, while a homeowner can't just shoot someone for trespassing (maybe only in Texas), the general principle, "A man's home is his castle and if uninvited, you trespass at your own risk," stands in this case.
I think the key word being questioned is "innocent", not intruder.
 

momeNt

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Always good to see a police spokesperson pretend to have any clue on possible civil litigation, but then be not really be sure if there are criminal charges for what he's doing? What????
 

MrSquished

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I live in a very urban area near NYC. Landlords just sent out an email today that they are setting up a system in place with a company called LocalCache which places a locker at the address and each package is assigned a PIN which will work for 48 hours to retrieve your package from the locker.

I've never had an issue since I get everything delivered to work, which is 1 block away. But there obviously is an issue so there you go. Most landlords wouldn't give two fucks about this kind of scenario. Everytime I've had an issue at my residence they have been here within minutes, if not hours, to take care of it.

Shopping for a condo myself right now but I'll miss having good landlords, well besides them kicking out my dog for the dumbest reason. Not sure I'll forgive them that much.

Localcache. Obviously there are companies out there responding to package theft.
 

Carson Dyle

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I live in a very urban area near NYC. Landlords just sent out an email today that they are setting up a system in place with a company called LocalCache which places a locker at the address and each package is assigned a PIN which will work for 48 hours to retrieve your package from the locker.

How do you get the PIN? Say you place an order with Amazon. Then what?
 

Ns1

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Include that locker ID in your order and I guess the delivery person will know what to do next.


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Carson Dyle

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From their FAQ:
How it works:
  1. Send the packages to our facility (use the address and ID we give you).
  2. You'll receive an email from us once it arrives at our facility.
  3. Once the package has been delivered to your chosen pick-up location, you'll be given a set of PIN by email.
  4. Use the PIN to unlock the locker with your package. That's it!

Send it to _their_ facility?

Can't see much that could go wrong with that... Nope, not much at all.
 

MrSquished

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From their FAQ:


Send it to _their_ facility?

Can't see much that could go wrong with that... Nope, not much at all.


That part wasn't in the email instructions at all.

The website isn't exactly inspiring either.

I guess my neighbors can be the guinea pigs