• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Man Arrested Outside Calif. DMV for Reading His Bible Out Loud

Page 7 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
monovillage said:
My bet is that if you check only a few of the OWS protests got permits, most protests don't get permits and in my opinion shouldn't have to get them. You think the 3 or 4 month occupy stays at various public areas across the country had permits?

I'm of the opinion that the 1st Amendment recognizes our right to free speech, not right to free speech as long as you pay for a permit.
Click to expand...

The permit issue was important with OWS particularly because their entire MO was to "occupy" an area and stay for days. This violated various local time, place and manner restrictions.

Many municipalities will have designated free speech zones where people do not need permits. However, generally where public property that is being used to conduct specific business is involved, a permit is required to conduct activities unrelated to that business. The permits are generally granted, but they are required.

We can talk about whether these permit requirements should be deemed Constitutional or not (they have been by the SCOTUS, btw), so long as we're consistent here. I didn't see too many conservatives favoring the free speech position when OWS protesters were being pepper sprayed and arrested by police for protesting without a permit (or overstaying a permit, etc.) Then again, I'm sure there are some liberals who support the cops in this case but not in the case of OWS.

I personally support reasonable time, place and manner restrictions which are minimally burdensome to speech. Which is why I generally didn't have a problem with the cops cracking down on OWS and I don't have a problem with this case either.

- wolf
 
pcgeek11 said:
The war on religion continues. I saw this on the news tonight and I just don't get it. He was on public land, the DMV was closed.

This is just BS IMO.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/man-arrested-outside-calif-dmv-for-reading-his-bible-out-loud/

“The charge of ‘impeding an open business’ was enacted in large part to protect businesses against protestors who block the doors of an open business,” the release says. “At the time of the arrest of these men, the DMV was closed, and they were standing at least fifty feet away from the entrance.”

How is this against the law and they allow the OWS ass hats to run loose tearing up cities and public property.
Click to expand...

You made a funny. 🙂
 
monovillage said:
Yes I do.
Click to expand...

How about on private land? Can I go to a church and loudly read "The Satanic Bible?"

If not private, what about public land? Can I loudly read the same book on the sidewalk outside the church?

At what point does my disruptive speech infringe on the rights of those I'm forcing it upon?
 
monovillage said:
You find nothing amusing or outrageous that you have to get a permit to have free speech on public property (state property)? I do, I find it laughable that there are those type of restrictions on free speech, protest, religious speech on public land.
Click to expand...

So you were angry about the protesters that were kept several blocks away from the RNC in NYC? What about the bicyclists that were re-routed away or arrested for even coming NEAR the convention center?
 
child of wonder said:
How about on private land? Can I go to a church and loudly read "The Satanic Bible?"

If not private, what about public land? Can I loudly read the same book on the sidewalk outside the church?

At what point does my disruptive speech infringe on the rights of those I'm forcing it upon?
Click to expand...

Private property makes a difference in your free speech rights, so no you can't go on private property such as a church.
As far as i'm concerned if you're on public land you could political speech your little heart out.
 
Ninjahedge said:
So you were angry about the protesters that were kept several blocks away from the RNC in NYC? What about the bicyclists that were re-routed away or arrested for even coming NEAR the convention center?
Click to expand...

I've said before and will say again that I think those free speech zones are bullshit and that I don't support keeping protests far away from who/what they're protesting.
 
Now you know how the term liberal authoritarian is applied. They claim they're liberal, but want the authorities to crush free speech in public.
 
monovillage said:
Now you know how the term liberal authoritarian is applied. They claim they're liberal, but want the authorities to crush free speech in public.
Click to expand...

Actually, liberals are per definition liberal, authoritarians like the conservatives and the libertiantards are mostly retarded people not able to agree on anything else than "god is great", hence Sanatorium's success.

I'm a classical liberal, i'd agree with you if you weren't so fucking stupid on these matters and a conservatard to boot.

You're the most authoritarian poster in this forum and have proven to be so since your first post.

You just don't that that locking people into your POV is restricting others freedom, just like Stalin didn't get that either.

(and yea, i used Stalin just to piss you off, come at me)
 
JohnOfSheffield said:
Actually, liberals are per definition liberal, authoritarians like the conservatives and the libertiantards are mostly retarded people not able to agree on anything else than "god is great", hence Sanatorium's success.

I'm a classical liberal, i'd agree with you if you weren't so fucking stupid on these matters and a conservatard to boot.

You're the most authoritarian poster in this forum and have proven to be so since your first post.

You just don't that that locking people into your POV is restricting others freedom, just like Stalin didn't get that either.

(and yea, i used Stalin just to piss you off, come at me)
Click to expand...

I applaud you Sir! I would elaborate but I have already been spanked to many times.😉
 
Good shit. Im already annoyed when these people try to force their crap on me as Im walking by on my college campus. Id be even more pissed if I was stuck in line for the DMV which I already hate and some guy forcing it on me.
 
These preacher types who use megaphones to annoy the fuck out of everyone all deserve to be shot in the face.
 
AznAnarchy99 said:
Good shit. Im already annoyed when these people try to force their crap on me as Im walking by on my college campus. Id be even more pissed if I was stuck in line for the DMV which I already hate and some guy forcing it on me.
Click to expand...

Free speech is free speech. Would it be OK if you agreed with what he was saying?
If you force silence on those you disagree with then the people that disagree with you will force you to be silent.
What ever happened to tolerance?
 
Kadarin said:
These preacher types who use megaphones to annoy the fuck out of everyone all deserve to be shot in the face.
Click to expand...

Those liberal types that use megaphones to annoy the fuck out of conservatives all deserve to be shot in the face.......... Do you really want to go there? I don't.
 
monovillage said:
Free speech is free speech. Would it be OK if you agreed with what he was saying?
If you force silence on those you disagree with then the people that disagree with you will force you to be silent.
What ever happened to tolerance?
Click to expand...

Yeah, it's not like you HAVE to stand in line at the DMV, you can just go home and your car will be delivered to you from the impound, all expenses paid by the crazy person screaming until you leave.

Is that how that works?

Oh, it's not? You believe that people have the right to stand screaming at you while in line at the DMV?

Don't you EVER THINK at all?

Free speech is free until i clock you right the fuck out or they stop you and me from getting into that situation, in which case you should be thankful.


In this case, something would have happened sooner or later. He should have shut the fuck up.
 
monovillage said:
Free speech is free speech. Would it be OK if you agreed with what he was saying?
If you force silence on those you disagree with then the people that disagree with you will force you to be silent.
What ever happened to tolerance?
Click to expand...

Who said I was intolerant? If I agreed I still wouldnt want him to make my beliefs look bad by annoying people who are probably already annoyed for having to wake up at 6:30am to get in line at the DMV.
 
AznAnarchy99 said:
Who said I was intolerant? If I agreed I still wouldnt want him to make my beliefs look bad by annoying people who are probably already annoyed for having to wake up at 6:30am to get in line at the DMV.
Click to expand...

Do you believe in the pasta god of my faith, if so i advice you to follow me, we will all conjoin on public grounds and scream to our hearts content outside his house.

If he so much as complain well do the hymn of "hypocrite" for a week.

I'll supply the meals...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top