Man arrested for groping woman on flight says 'President says it's OK to grab women's private parts'

cytg111

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Well if you havent been grabbing for the last couple of years you are missing out... Its an open market right now, get to it boys... remember to have a calendar ready as alibi..
 
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pcgeek11

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Yes, You are right. Nobody was ever molested or raped before Trump came along. Wow they even follow him in London England. Who would have guessed.

The truth is crazy people do crazy things. These crazy people were going to do something regardless of Trump. It is sad that you can't see it.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Yes, You are right. Nobody was ever molested or raped before Trump came along. Wow they even follow him in London England. Who would have guessed.

The truth is crazy people do crazy things. These crazy people were going to do something regardless of Trump. It is sad that you can't see it.

You speak of truth like you care. Adorable.

Trump enables and enboldens assholes to act on their impulses. Uncomfortable truths for those who tossed a vote for him.
 

pcgeek11

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You speak of truth like you care. Adorable.

Trump enables and enboldens assholes to act on their impulses. Uncomfortable truths for those who tossed a vote for him.

"emboldens" for the record.

You don't even know the meaning of the word truth.

So from now on every time someone is touched it will be Trumps fault. So they should release these poor souls as it wsn't their fault they were led in the wrong direction by Trump.
 

Phokus

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"emboldens" for the record.

You don't even know the meaning of the word truth.

So from now on every time someone is touched it will be Trumps fault. So they should release these poor souls as it wsn't their fault they were led in the wrong direction by Trump.

When they quote Trump while they're sexually assaulting women, yes, Trump bears some responsibility. Trump is reprehensible and he does embolden the crazy/evil to do despicable things. The GOP is now the party that loves and endorses rape. Own it.
 

ch33zw1z

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"emboldens" for the record.

You don't even know the meaning of the word truth.

So from now on every time someone is touched it will be Trumps fault. So they should release these poor souls as it wsn't their fault they were led in the wrong direction by Trump.

Sad. Thanks Obama.
 

ch33zw1z

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When they quote Trump while they're sexually assaulting women, yes, Trump bears some responsibility. Trump is reprehensible and he does embolden the crazy/evil to do despicable things. The GOP is now the party that loves and endorses rape. Own it.

But at least he doesn't wear a tan suit.
 

pcgeek11

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When they quote Trump while they're sexually assaulting women, yes, Trump bears some responsibility. Trump is reprehensible and he does embolden the crazy/evil to do despicable things. The GOP is now the party that loves and endorses rape. Own it.

You are wrong.

No, I don't own it.
 

trenchfoot

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As far as Trump is concerned, if you're in for a penny, you're in for a pound. Some folks like to think that they can take pieces of Trump's nasty habits, identify with those and ignore the rest to, you know, somehow salvage some self respect out of the deal.

As an example, sorry to say but those evangelists/fundamentalists that think they can keep their faith untarnished while laying in bed with the devil are quite sadly mistaken. They have forsaken their.......righteousness(?) by joining in league with Trump, for they cannot simply exploit him for their needs and not be wholly identified with every sordid evil thing that Trump is and does. They can't only stand by him for his obligation to them that he would strive to overturn Roe v. Wade. Oh no, no no. They took in the whole of Trump and every ungodly racist, adulterous misogynist thing he is and represents.

I've seen quite a few of the "faithful" rejoice in Trump's attempts at stoking fear and hate against his enemies regardless if these so called "enemies" are also of the same faith yet of the opposition party.

Reconciling is the same as rationalizing for these folks.

And that's just for starters. Identifying with Trump and his agenda for making himself and his fellow wealthy profiteers much more wealthier by corrupting our chosen political "leaders" and literally taking over the gov't to do it is supposed to be good governance? Is somehow supposed to be good for their middle class and their poor?

I'd like to see them explain that away. And yeh, I ain't holding my breath while waiting around for it either.
 

cytg111

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Yes, You are right. Nobody was ever molested or raped before Trump came along. Wow they even follow him in London England. Who would have guessed.

The truth is crazy people do crazy things. These crazy people were going to do something regardless of Trump. It is sad that you can't see it.

Leaders set an example for us to follow.
If you dont get that then you might as well be a rock. A very stupid rock.
 

1prophet

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No matter how bad Trump is, using him as an excuse for sexual assault is no different than blaming the woman for sexual assault because of her short dress, the responsibility lies 100% with the man doing the assault regardless of whether or not he believes Trump, the miniskirt, the devil, the spaghetti monster, etc. say or makes him think it is OK.

Trump is no more responsible than the dressmakers that sell short skirts or other revealing attire.
 

Commodus

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No matter how bad Trump is, using him as an excuse for sexual assault is no different than blaming the woman for sexual assault because of her short dress, the responsibility lies 100% with the man doing the assault regardless of whether or not he believes Trump, the miniskirt, the devil, the spaghetti monster, etc. say or makes him think it is OK.

Trump is no more responsible than the dressmakers that sell short skirts or other revealing attire.

Er, no.

Blaming a woman's clothing is victim blaming. While it's ultimately the attacker's fault, this is about Trump creating a culture where sexual assault is considered tolerable. Trump's fondness for sexual assault may not be a huge factor, but it's still being cited by these people, and it's unacceptable.
 

allisolm

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"emboldens" for the record.

So from now on every time someone is touched it will be Trumps fault. So they should release these poor souls as it wsn't their fault they were led in the wrong direction by Trump.

"Trump's" for the record. "Wasn't" for the record.

And no, from now on it won't be Trump's fault every time someone is touched. What a ridiculous statement that is. Every time someone uses Trumps' words as THEIR excuse for touching someone it does reflect on Trump.
 

pmv

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I think it's more one of those cases where you have no hope of ever separating causation from correlation. Did Trump's comments contribute to 'causing' this behaviour, or are both this behaviour and Trump's comments both manifestations of a bigger underlying factor that existed independently of either of them?

As we can't do a controlled experiment and re-run the universe without Trump making those remarks (or their being reported) to see whether these guys would still do what they did, we can't ever say for sure which it is.

However, one can say that Trump clearly does embody the same problem that these guys do.
 

HomerJS

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Yes, You are right. Nobody was ever molested or raped before Trump came along. Wow they even follow him in London England. Who would have guessed.

The truth is crazy people do crazy things. These crazy people were going to do something regardless of Trump. It is sad that you can't see it.
Yes but now the precedent is set by the President of The United States, committing sexual assault by grabbing women's genitalia is acceptable. Since the same person was elected President when they already knew of the offense means a electoral majority of US voter eligible citizens consider this excusable. It isn't even a question of morality because morals no longer matter.

How soon before boys in school start using the Trump defense to excuse their verbal mistreatment of girls in school. "Hey the President calls women "horseface" so it must be ok. We already had an example of this when there was an uptick in harassment of Hispanic students by the white ones.
 
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SlowSpyder

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This guy wasn't rich or a celeb, so what Trump said wouldn't apply. Sounds like someone just trying to use an excuse to be a dirtbag.
 

dawp

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This guy wasn't rich or a celeb, so what Trump said wouldn't apply. Sounds like someone just trying to use an excuse to be a dirtbag.
so you're saying that as long as you are rich and/or a celeb it would be ok to molest.
 

SlowSpyder

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so you're saying that as long as you are rich and/or a celeb it would be ok to molest.

Nope, saying that if this guy wanted to take and use what Trump said as an excuse, it wouldn't apply anyway. As far as what he said, I understand it was locker room talk, I can see how with being a rich and powerful man women will pretty well throw themselves at you.
 

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A black man with a 'fro kneels quietly for the national anthem and he deserves to lose his job and receive death threats for inciting violence and hatred toward the military and police.

A white man says "It's OK to sexually assault women" and he's not responsible for people going out and sexually assaulting women because "locker room talk."

Yeah, seems legit.
 

dawp

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Nope, saying that if this guy wanted to take and use what Trump said as an excuse, it wouldn't apply anyway. As far as what he said, I understand it was locker room talk, I can see how with being a rich and powerful man women will pretty well throw themselves at you.
This guy wasn't rich or a celeb, so what Trump said wouldn't apply. Sounds like someone just trying to use an excuse to be a dirtbag.
that is what you said, as long as you are rich and famous you can grab them by the pu55y, which is what trump said.
 

SlowSpyder

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that is what you said, as long as you are rich and famous you can grab them by the pu55y, which is what trump said.

As locker room talk, yes. Not words that are meant to be literal in their meaning. But even if we wanted to go by by the literal meaning of the words Trump said, it wouldn't apply to this guy anyway.