Making a left turn on a busy road

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sao123

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Originally posted by: zendari
I don't mean crossing the median with any part of the car. But if she moved a couple feet towards it, then traffic could have continued.

So I guess its ok to hold up a busy road for 4 mins?

Yes it is.
In state college where I went to Penn State.
there are 2 lanes going in each direction divided by a block of buildings, no median, no soulders, no street parking, just curb + sidewalk on both sides.
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Delivery Trucks will routinely stop in a lane and make their deliveries, blocking that entire lane for 15 or more minutes.
Police will do the same when they ticket an individual. Stop right in the lane, blocking it off. (theres nowhere to pull off, no on street parking)
 

lancestorm

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Originally posted by: zendari
Pics:

This as opposed to this

My feelings stay the same. Find some way to lengthen your patience. The van, while holding up traffic, did not do anything illegal. If it was over in the lane, you would have broken the law. Don't be so late for work next time. I do not feel sorry for you. And I think with your rant you owe me $20.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: lancestorm
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: jagec
It's sort of like people who sit at a red light for a while, and then AFTER it turns green they put on their left turn signal and sit there waiting for an opening...GRRR...kill...
OMG OMG :| :| :| :|

I want to pound those people in the head with a brick and a half.

Not signaling (correctly/when appropriate) is my biggest peeve on the road...

Why signal at a red light? It's not like he's going to be going anywhere soon with that signal on and sitting at a red light. Plus the sound of the turn signal is bothersome. Why would this bother you ppl? You'd have to wait on the person regardless if they put on their turn signal at the red light or when it turns green.

Well for one, if I knew they were going to spend eternity trying to go left, I would have moved into the other lane.

 

rh71

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: lancestorm
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: jagec
It's sort of like people who sit at a red light for a while, and then AFTER it turns green they put on their left turn signal and sit there waiting for an opening...GRRR...kill...
OMG OMG :| :| :| :|

I want to pound those people in the head with a brick and a half.

Not signaling (correctly/when appropriate) is my biggest peeve on the road...

Why signal at a red light? It's not like he's going to be going anywhere soon with that signal on and sitting at a red light. Plus the sound of the turn signal is bothersome. Why would this bother you ppl? You'd have to wait on the person regardless if they put on their turn signal at the red light or when it turns green.

Well for one, if I knew they were going to spend eternity trying to go left, I would have moved into the other lane.
Yes, that's exactly the reason. The turn signal is NOT FOR THE DRIVER of the car. It is for the OTHER people on the road so they can anticipate their next move (first rule of being a good driver).

Maybe a drive down Manhattan streets with cabbies will learn a lot of people...
 

lancestorm

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: lancestorm
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: jagec
It's sort of like people who sit at a red light for a while, and then AFTER it turns green they put on their left turn signal and sit there waiting for an opening...GRRR...kill...
OMG OMG :| :| :| :|

I want to pound those people in the head with a brick and a half.

Not signaling (correctly/when appropriate) is my biggest peeve on the road...

Why signal at a red light? It's not like he's going to be going anywhere soon with that signal on and sitting at a red light. Plus the sound of the turn signal is bothersome. Why would this bother you ppl? You'd have to wait on the person regardless if they put on their turn signal at the red light or when it turns green.

Well for one, if I knew they were going to spend eternity trying to go left, I would have moved into the other lane.
Oh, I didn't catch that it was a 2lane. You are right, that does drive me bonkers.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: labgeek
Originally posted by: PingSpike
That law is retarded anyway, not that she would even be breaking the law by allowing others the opportunity to break it. (glad we don't have it around here, along with the double yellow lines law)

You do...

(b) In no event may a vehicle be passed by driving off the pavement or main-traveled portion of the roadway. (Added 1971, No. 258 (Adj. Sess.), § 3, eff. March 1, 1973.)

Note the portion in bold... that means no driving on the shoulder.

Source: http://www.leg.state.vt.us/statutes/ful...cfm?Title=23&Chapter=013&Section=01034

Huh, I do that in front of cops all the time. Either the cops don't care, the cops don't know, or your interpretation is wrong. Its all the same to me.
 

akubi

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Originally posted by: zendari
Scenario:

Weekday morning on a very very busy road. The road is relatively wide. Bigass minivan in front of me decides to try and make a left turn. Stupid b*tch driver however doesn't move over to the left side of the lane (right on top of the yellow lines) so we can pass on our right side. Instead, she parks her car almost precisely in the middle of the lane, with about a 4-5 foot margin on each side of her car. Traffic is backed up for almost 4 mins, most of which I spent cursing off.

I hate drivers like this.

So question: Are there any road rules regarding making a left turn and backing up traffic? I know when I am making a left I do my best to allow people to pass.


in nyc you are supposed to move to the left end so you don't block traffic. at least that's what they tell you in driving school... so you are right. and I hate ppl who do this too.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: lancestorm
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: jagec
It's sort of like people who sit at a red light for a while, and then AFTER it turns green they put on their left turn signal and sit there waiting for an opening...GRRR...kill...
OMG OMG :| :| :| :|

I want to pound those people in the head with a brick and a half.

Not signaling (correctly/when appropriate) is my biggest peeve on the road...
Why signal at a red light? It's not like he's going to be going anywhere soon with that signal on and sitting at a red light. Plus the sound of the turn signal is bothersome. Why would this bother you ppl? You'd have to wait on the person regardless if they put on their turn signal at the red light or when it turns green.
Because the law (in virtually every state) requires that you begin signalling at least 100 feet before the turn. It is unlawful to wait to begin signalling until you are immediately at the turn, wait at a red light or not.

I read through your posts in this thread, and I must say that your knowledge of the traffic laws is extremely lacking. For example, the OP's beef is the law in my state. In the situation he described, traffic turning left must keep to farthest left in their lane possible in order to allow through traffic to pass on the right.
 

labgeek

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Huh, I do that in front of cops all the time. Either the cops don't care, the cops don't know, or your interpretation is wrong. Its all the same to me.

I suspect it's the "don't care" option... just don't complain when they decide they do one day and write you that ticket.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: zendari

Well for one, if I knew they were going to spend eternity trying to go left, I would have moved into the other lane.

Nothing in your pathetic drawing (see above) depicts that it is a 2 lane in that direction road... how about a dotted white line or something huh?
Or is it really just one lane, and you think it is wide enough to be two.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: zendari

Well for one, if I knew they were going to spend eternity trying to go left, I would have moved into the other lane.

Nothing in your pathetic drawing (see above) depicts that it is a 2 lane in that direction road... how about a dotted white line or something huh?
Or is it really just one lane, and you think it is wide enough to be two.

That comment is unrelated to the original post. In a seperate issue, if someone is turning left on a 2 way road, they should turn their blinkers on so ppl behind know they are going left.

The road that I was driving on IS wide enough for 2 cars, provided the turning car moves a bit left of the center. There is no "think".

I thank you for your drawing however, thats what should be done on all busy streets.

 

Mo0o

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From what I know it sounds like she's following the law and doing what shes suppose to be doing.
 

eLiu

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Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
I hate that crap, but technically she was following the law. Now what I really hate is when you're sitting waiting to leave a parking lot or something and it is a wide entrance/exit with room for 1 car to turn in, 1 car to exit left, and 1 car to exit right but the dumbass leaving sits in the space for the exit left & exit right. jackoffs

OMG YES.