alvinator, your thought to get memory recommended for the mobo is on the right track. I bought off the shelf cheap for my PC and had the same problem with installs you are having. Changed memory and everything worked. That may be the answer.
CaptnKirk
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Rosewill
Memory shouldn't be the problem here - Rosewill is the NewEgg 'In House' Branding.
They don't make the memory, they're re-packaging the Samsung into their 'box' and putting on the 'Rosewill' sticker -
at least that's what their photo shows.
If you look at the pic, you can read SAMSUNG & read the TCCC code on the chipsets
Those should be exactly the same thing that Samsung is making for export.
Personally - I only use Crucial on my own computers, after many many system builds,
you get a bit 'gun-shy' of some product brands.
For example - I wouldn't put 'PNY Anything' into any system . . . maybe float it in a punch bowl . . . & I no longer trust MicroStar (MSI)
Memory shouldn't be the problem here - Rosewill is the NewEgg 'In House' Branding.
They don't make the memory, they're re-packaging the Samsung into their 'box' and putting on the 'Rosewill' sticker -
at least that's what their photo shows.
If you look at the pic, you can read SAMSUNG & read the TCCC code on the chipsets
Those should be exactly the same thing that Samsung is making for export.
Personally - I only use Crucial on my own computers, after many many system builds,
you get a bit 'gun-shy' of some product brands.
For example - I wouldn't put 'PNY Anything' into any system . . . maybe float it in a punch bowl . . . & I no longer trust MicroStar (MSI)
Danzilla
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You said you tried another hard drive and had the same problems, RIGHT? Way I see it, either the motherboard has a problem, or the optical drive you're using is flaky, or maybe just the cables in between.
Again, I suggest trying switching between the drive controllers available on the motherboard for both the HD and CD. Also check your bios settings to make sure it's trying to boot from the correct IDE device. Finally, try another optical drive if you have one available.
You've tried with more than one hard drive and more than one install CD, so it's either the cables, power to the drives, the drives themselves, or some problem with the motherboard (could be many things), IMO.
Just skimmed over new posts since right after I last posted, so don't bug me if I dupped something.
Edit: Hey, I like my PNY! Mine happens to be rebadged Samsung as well (only 2700 though).
PS: Only bother with low level format if you have disk errors you're trying to correct. Find and use some disk diagnostics first.
Again, I suggest trying switching between the drive controllers available on the motherboard for both the HD and CD. Also check your bios settings to make sure it's trying to boot from the correct IDE device. Finally, try another optical drive if you have one available.
You've tried with more than one hard drive and more than one install CD, so it's either the cables, power to the drives, the drives themselves, or some problem with the motherboard (could be many things), IMO.
Just skimmed over new posts since right after I last posted, so don't bug me if I dupped something.
Edit: Hey, I like my PNY! Mine happens to be rebadged Samsung as well (only 2700 though).
PS: Only bother with low level format if you have disk errors you're trying to correct. Find and use some disk diagnostics first.
CaptnKirk
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Houston, we have a problem . . .
I think he's had 2 different 160GB Samsung Hard Drives, at least 2 different sets of cables -
both the Round & the Ribbon, and he's even changed CD-ROM's with the same results.
He's run the 'Zeros' in and it still fails. Everything looks more and more like a Mobo
problem, or a bad power supply output . . .
or both, suprise on a bad Asus, that's rare.
He may need to load the RAM into both slots of a single chanel, and reset the BIOS to
recognize the P&P, and disable the APCI.
(I've seen Linux need the APCI turned off)
I have seen one solitary AMD 64-Bit CPU fail, but with the boot & running DOS, it is pointing more at voltage or Motherboard issues.
Not picking on PNY, it's the luck of the draw, some (DELL) systems don't like it.
The disc problems also look like remenants of file corruption from previous attempts
to install, as he originally
skiped several files in the initial attempt, and may not have set any partitians - allowed the set-up to spread over the entire 160GB hard drive.
Isn't there an issue with XP not being able to reside on HDD with over 137GB until SP1 fixes that ?
I just cut in a 25000GB partition as a C:/ and address the balance of the HDD volume after I get the program updating done, quite easy in Disc Manager.
I think he's had 2 different 160GB Samsung Hard Drives, at least 2 different sets of cables -
both the Round & the Ribbon, and he's even changed CD-ROM's with the same results.
He's run the 'Zeros' in and it still fails. Everything looks more and more like a Mobo
problem, or a bad power supply output . . .
or both, suprise on a bad Asus, that's rare.
He may need to load the RAM into both slots of a single chanel, and reset the BIOS to
recognize the P&P, and disable the APCI.
(I've seen Linux need the APCI turned off)
I have seen one solitary AMD 64-Bit CPU fail, but with the boot & running DOS, it is pointing more at voltage or Motherboard issues.
Not picking on PNY, it's the luck of the draw, some (DELL) systems don't like it.
The disc problems also look like remenants of file corruption from previous attempts
to install, as he originally
skiped several files in the initial attempt, and may not have set any partitians - allowed the set-up to spread over the entire 160GB hard drive.
Isn't there an issue with XP not being able to reside on HDD with over 137GB until SP1 fixes that ?
I just cut in a 25000GB partition as a C:/ and address the balance of the HDD volume after I get the program updating done, quite easy in Disc Manager.
Fresh set of eyeballs here, you guys have been doing an awesome job btw.
Boot to recovery console with your XP CD,
Run a chkdsk /r on the drive. If it shows errors, run again, if not proceed..
Start setup again, blow away any partitions and recreate them, format NTFS.
If this doesn't work the *first* time I think you've exhausted about every other option and are left with: Bad IDE controller on your mobo.
Those skipped files are the big indicator. That should not happen. Usually its crummy media or a dust bunny in the CD drive (that you can blow out). You've already tried a new CDRom and different media so...
Boot to recovery console with your XP CD,
Run a chkdsk /r on the drive. If it shows errors, run again, if not proceed..
Start setup again, blow away any partitions and recreate them, format NTFS.
If this doesn't work the *first* time I think you've exhausted about every other option and are left with: Bad IDE controller on your mobo.
Those skipped files are the big indicator. That should not happen. Usually its crummy media or a dust bunny in the CD drive (that you can blow out). You've already tried a new CDRom and different media so...
CaptnKirk
Lifer
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It's a scratch build - all components.
The Ops system BSOD's after the first run, ne never gets to the KEY CODE,
or the '39 Minutes Remaining'.
He could try to load it on another computer, then migrate the HDD into the
system and make the Phone Call to Banglore & verify one system install.
The Ops system BSOD's after the first run, ne never gets to the KEY CODE,
or the '39 Minutes Remaining'.
He could try to load it on another computer, then migrate the HDD into the
system and make the Phone Call to Banglore & verify one system install.
Thanks to all of you who responded to my problem. You are a great group of knowledgeable people who love to help novices like me.This ASUS A8V Deluxe MOBO is going back for replacement; it just will not load Windows. I'll post if I succeed with the second board.
Ok folks, the problem is solved and Windows XP has launched. As a last resort, I replaced the Rosewill 512 DDR400 (Part# RW400/512)sticks with the ASUS recommended Corsair VS1GBKIT400 modules.
I erased the HDD with the Samsung Hutil.exe available from the Samsung website, did a CMOS clear and let windows rip. It installed without a further hitch.
So, I guess the Rosewill is incompatible with the ASUS A8V Deluxe MOBO.
Thanks to all who helped me in my first, but not last, build!!!!
I erased the HDD with the Samsung Hutil.exe available from the Samsung website, did a CMOS clear and let windows rip. It installed without a further hitch.
So, I guess the Rosewill is incompatible with the ASUS A8V Deluxe MOBO.
Thanks to all who helped me in my first, but not last, build!!!!
CaptnKirk
Lifer
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Good job, glad ya' got it going.
Question - on the side of the memory sticks, both the Rosewill & the Corsair,
you should be able to read a manufacturer and mfg code on the chipsets -
something like SAMSUNG and below that some numbers - TCCC or something like it.
Who's chipset & what ID numbers are on the ones that work & those that don't.
Question - on the side of the memory sticks, both the Rosewill & the Corsair,
you should be able to read a manufacturer and mfg code on the chipsets -
something like SAMSUNG and below that some numbers - TCCC or something like it.
Who's chipset & what ID numbers are on the ones that work & those that don't.
Ok. The incompatible Rosewill memory is RW400/512. They are marked as PQI Chips with the following numbers: PQ4D328Y5
0510
The working Corsair is the Value Select VS512MB400 marked as VALUESELECT with the following numbers: VS32M8-5 PS1300513B
Hope this helps everyone.
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