Majority of House supports bill to reverse dealer closings

newnameman

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http://www.detnews.com/article...everse-dealer-closings

Washington -- A majority of House members have signed onto a bill to reverse the closing of 789 Chrysler dealerships and block General Motors Corp. from closing more than 1,300, while the full House could vote on the bill as early as next week.

The Automobile Dealer Economic Rights Restoration Act of 2009, sponsored by Rep. Daniel Maffei, D-N.Y., now has 221 cosponsors -- a majority of the 435-member House. GM's executives met with Maffei this week.

On Wednesday, the bill had just 202 cosponsors. Late Tuesday, the House Appropriations Committee approved by a voice vote an amendment that also seeks to reverse the dealer closings.

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GM's vice president for sales, service and marketing, Mark LaNeve, said he and his boss, GM North American President Troy Clarke, met with more than 20 members of Congress over the last two days. LaNeve said GM, in the second quarter of 2010, will take another look at its closing dealers to reconsider some if the market or GM's sales improve.

"This has been the most difficult, hard thing I'd every have to do," LaNeve said. "In terms of creating a viable, competitive GM on taxpayer dollars, you can't look in the mirror and say we didn't have to restructure the dealer body."

The bill would require GM and Chrysler to "honor those rights ... prior to the commencement of the bankruptcy cases of each corporation, including dealer rights to recourse under state law." Chrysler's 789 dealers, nearly a quarter of its network, closed in early June.

GM sent termination notices to about 1,300 dealers and expects another 1,280 to close voluntarily by the end of 2010. GM is giving closing dealers 16 months to sell their inventory and up to $1 million in wind-down payments and has agreed to hear appeals. It has reversed its closing decisions in at least 70 instances, LaNeve said -- saying the decisions were driven by data or "extraordinary circumstances." "We didn't reverse anybody because they said they would do better in the future," LaNeve said.

Chrysler offered no appeal process and no money to closing dealers. It gave dealers just 26 days to close their doors.

On Thursday, Chrysler defended its actions, saying it had "used sound business judgment during the bankruptcy process to determine the appropriate size for its dealer network. Annual new vehicle sales have declined roughly 40 percent in the last two years, which leaves Chrysler at a level that cannot support the previous size dealer network."

But Chrysler said it is still talking to its former dealers.

"Chrysler continues to work with discontinued dealers on issues related to redistribution of inventory, parts and special tools," the company said. The closings, it said, were "tough, painful business decisions to be made, including reducing the number of manufacturing facilities, employees and dealers. These decisions were not taken lightly, nor were they made irrationally."

Chrysler said the bill with 222 supporters "would jeopardize the viability of the new company."

Rep. Gary Peters, D-Bloomfield Township, is circulating a letter trying to broker a compromise.

"Those of us from states that have a significant auto presence have always understood that auto restructuring will only be possible through shared sacrifice among all stakeholders," Peters wrote. "We fully support efforts to provide assistance to automobile dealerships whose franchise agreements are being shed as part of the bankruptcy process. The owners and employees of the dealerships affected by this decision were not responsible for the financial crisis that has necessitated automobile restructuring, and neither are the thousands of hourly and salaried workers who are being laid off, the retirees whose benefits are going to be cut or the auto parts suppliers who are going out of business."

An ad-hoc committee of auto dealers -- co-chaired by Jack Fitzgerald, owner of Fitzgerald Auto Malls in Maryland, Pennsylvania and Florida; Alan Spitzer, president of Spitzer Management Inc. with dealerships in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida; and Tammy Darvish, vice president of DARCARS in Maryland -- issued a statement praising the legislation.

"A majority of the U.S. House of Representatives, an astonishing 222 members, and a quickly growing number in the Senate, from both parties, now fully recognize what is clear to the American people: The leadership of GM and Chrysler made a horrible mistake by their arbitrary termination of profitable dealerships," the statement said. "Detroit and the (White House's) auto task force's flawed business plan will lead to the direct loss of more than 169,000 good jobs and cripple the U.S. auto industry's ability to come back from bankruptcy."

A Senate version sponsored by Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, has 14 cosponsors, including Edward Kennedy, D-Mass.; Tom Harkin, D-Iowa; and Robert Bennett, R-Utah.

More than 100 auto dealers from across the country will join with senior members of Congress on Tuesday July 14 on Capitol Hill to make their case for immediate passage of the bill.

Clarke and LaNeve, will meet with Senate aides this afternoon after a day of meetings Wednesday.

Chrysler Deputy CEO Jim Press also has been meeting with key officials on the Hill.

Two top White House auto advisors, Steve Rattner and Brian Deese, met with House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer and GM and Chrysler executives for nearly 90 minutes Wednesday in an effort to reach a deal to head off legislation.

Noooo, the government would never interfere with how Chrysler and GM are run for political puposes, after all, they don't want to be in the automobile business. :disgust:
 

miniMUNCH

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Well, among other things, i can't help but think this is no more than rep's trying to pay back the dealers that stuffed their pockets and/or trying to make sure they get re-elected.

But at the same time rep's are supposed to fight for their district's interests...
 

StageLeft

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Haha, that makes Barney Frank's meddling seems pitifully small.
But at the same time rep's are supposed to fight for their district's interests...
The same damn argument a few made in the other thread. Besides familiarizing themselves with the tragedy of the commons, this shouldn't even be on the table at all. Obama should have cut Frank off at the knees, but evidently he was just a tease and this is the full gang bang.

It'll be hilarious if this actual passes and is signed off by Obama and truly guarantee that the auto manufacturers will need more money later from gov, as this is a necessary cost cutting step they took.
 

Robor

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And here I thought the Obama administration was behind the dealer closings (as alleged by some here). :-/
 

alchemize

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Good, let them run them into the ground even faster.

Obama will Veto this, plus it will never get past the senate.
 

brencat

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I agree this would never pass the Senate, but I'm also getting tired of these pandering votes that waste time just so our elected Reps can "demonstrate" that they actually care when they must know this is a useless gesture that won't accomplish anything.

Reps from both parties need to start doing the right thing, and telling people what they may not want to hear. "Tough luck...dealers have to close and expenses must be cut in order for the company to remain viable long term."
 

Slick5150

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I just find it funny that half the names in support of the legislation are those that were running around saying let GM & Chrysler fail, we don't need them. And are now running around trying to keep the low volume dealers open in their districts.. Well gee, you think those dealers were going to have new cars magically delivered to them by the companies you didn't want to exist anymore?
 

Jeffg010

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Damn how is GM going to fix itself if it can't trim the fat? This is getting stupid.


government is stupid
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Genx87

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This is good imo. The more these politicians fuck with GM the more the people will realize having govt run private industry is stupid.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Wait, I thought it was the guberment that closed the dealerships even though they aren't costing the companies anything?!!one!1
 

dphantom

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Originally posted by: Genx87
This is good imo. The more these politicians fuck with GM the more the people will realize having govt run private industry is stupid.

You bet. Let the pols muck it up even more than they have. And we have people who still think government is best able to run health care?? Once government gets its toe in the door, you can forget about ever getting them back out again.

I say it again and again, government has no place in business or personal life, period.
 

NaughtyGeek

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How can the government mandate that these dealerships be kept open? How is that even legal? If the dealerships wish to remain open, they are likely more than welcome to find private capital to finance their inventories. If they cannot, buh buy. These asshats really never cease to amaze me.
 

dphantom

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Originally posted by: NaughtyGeek
How can the government mandate that these dealerships be kept open? How is that even legal? If the dealerships wish to remain open, they are likely more than welcome to find private capital to finance their inventories. If they cannot, buh buy. These asshats really never cease to amaze me.

The dealerships are franchises. Franchise law varies a lot, but the franchisor under certain conditions can withdraw the franchise from a franchisee. In the case of bankruptcy of either party, removing or losing the franchise is very possible. Again, circumstance dependent.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: Genx87
This is good imo. The more these politicians fuck with GM the more the people will realize having govt run private industry is stupid.

You bet. Let the pols muck it up even more than they have. And we have people who still think government is best able to run health care?? Once government gets its toe in the door, you can forget about ever getting them back out again.

I say it again and again, government has no place in business or personal life, period.

UHC is going to bring us a new Terry Schiavo on a monthly basis. You can count on congress micro-managing health care at the individual level. Count on it.
 

TheSkinsFan

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This is a sickening development. Predictable, sure... but sickening nonetheless.

It better not get past the Senate...
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Robor
And here I thought the Obama administration was behind the dealer closings (as alleged by some here). :-/

Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
Wait, I thought it was the guberment that closed the dealerships even though they aren't costing the companies anything?!!one!1

Umm.. Congress != the Obama admin.

The Obama admin has a 'car czar', I can no longer remember if he 'recommended' cutting the dealers or not, or if it was bankruptcy court/trustee etc.

I'd like to know if/how these independant dealers cost the auto manufacturers money? The dealers claim they don't.

No matter about the above, this is just more proof that the government can't keep it's hands off businesses no matter what they said earlier.

Fern