Majority Of Americans Would Vote For An Atheist For President (POLL)

[davmat787]

Yep. If the best candidate is religious or not it doesn't matter to me, and "best" has nothing to do with religion. Ideas and character matter.

This, as long as they keep their religion or lack thereof to themselves and are not a zealot about it.

 

[Juddog]

Unless an atheist believes the pinnacle of evolution is, say, the dolphin, then I'd argue that he believes himself (and those as much like him as possible) to be the height of evolution indeed. And if voting for an atheist includes voting for someone who is secretly an atheist, then the question is useless.

You're confusing topics now. Whether someone considers themselves the height of evolution has nothing to do with not having a belief in something.

 

[xj0hnx]

Yep. If the best candidate is religious or not it doesn't matter to me, and "best" has nothing to do with religion. Ideas and character matter.

Unfortunately in this country too many people's idea of "ideas and character" are based on a person's religion.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Unless an atheist believes the pinnacle of evolution is, say, the dolphin, then I'd argue that he believes himself (and those as much like him as possible) to be the height of evolution indeed. And if voting for an atheist includes voting for someone who is secretly an atheist, then the question is useless.

Evolution doesn't have "pinnacles". Dolphins won't eventually become humans if they just evolve some more. There is no such thing as "more evolved" or "less evolved.“ So no, you are wrong.

To be precise, not believing in that one specific belief makes one an agnostic;

Wrong again. Not believing that a god's existence is knowable makes a person agnostic. This is not mutually exclusive or inconsistent with not believing that a god exists.

it's a belief that no convincing evidence exists for a Creator.

Wrong some more.

Believing in the opposite of that one specific belief makes one an atheist; it's a belief that convincing evidence exists that there is no Creator.

The opposite of believing a god exists is not believing a god exists. It is not the opposite to believe that precisely zero gods exist.

I have no problem with agnostics, but the overweening hubris required to be an atheist is rather hard to overlook. To believe there is no G-d, no Creator, is literally claiming to understand all of Creation well enough to determine it arose through natural means. That's a breathtaking leap of faith and arrogance.

It appears that you were simply misinformed. Consider yourself educated.

 

[soulcougher73]

Hell yeah i would regardless of party

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

Unless an atheist believes the pinnacle of evolution is, say, the dolphin, then I'd argue that he believes himself (and those as much like him as possible) to be the height of evolution indeed. And if voting for an atheist includes voting for someone who is secretly an atheist, then the question is useless.

To be precise, not believing in that one specific belief makes one an agnostic; it's a belief that no convincing evidence exists for a Creator. Believing in the opposite of that one specific belief makes one an atheist; it's a belief that convincing evidence exists that there is no Creator.

Where do you get your information from? Please allow me to clarify a few points:

There is no such thing as an evolutionary "ladder" except in the minds of Creationists as a ready-to-hand straw man. Darwin's original visualisation of a tree (along with associated "I think") actually does a very good job of summarising what we know regarding this. And if there were a ladder, we would not be at the top.

Agnosticism is a belief that the question regarding the existence of God(s) is inherently unknowable.
Atheism is a belief that there is no god.
The two are not mutually exclusive.

I have no problem with agnostics, but the overweening hubris required to be an atheist is rather hard to overlook. To believe there is no G-d, no Creator, is literally claiming to understand all of Creation well enough to determine it arose through natural means. That's a breathtaking leap of faith and arrogance.

I singled out this quotation because it literally rendered me speechless.

Just like how you don't have to understand every single one of God's motivations or actions to be a Christian, you don't need a complete understanding of the universe to be an atheist.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Atheism is a belief that there is no god.

No, not exactly. (Consistent) individuals that believe exactly zero gods exist necessarily lack the belief that any gods exist, but those that lack a belief that any gods exist do not necessarily believe that exactly zero gods exist.

 

[Incorruptible]

I would vote for an atheist as long as he was small government. It doesn't matter if they believe in God or not

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

No, not exactly. (Consistent) individuals that believe exactly zero gods exist necessarily lack the belief that any gods exist, but those that lack a belief that any gods exist do not necessarily believe that exactly zero gods exist.

Then how many gods do they believe exist?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Then how many gods do they believe exist?

They don't.