Major static/interference with onboard sound on VNF4

dfedders

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I have a Chaintech VNF4 nforce4 motherboard. I am getting MAJOR static and interference when using the onboard sound. Yes- I know onboard sound generally sucks, but I've been using it on my old Asus P4 motherboard with these same headphones without any static.

I get major static whenever the DVD drive or HD is accessed, or if I scroll fast with the mouse wheel.

Any suggestions on what is causing it, and how to eliminate it?

Thanks!
 

dfedders

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I saw that thread. but there wasn't anything particularly helpful in there. I've already checked the connection to make sure it was secure, I know the headphones work perfectly fine in my other computer. and I've already muted the line-in. I have a good Fortron power supply, so I don't think that is the issue.

Anyone else run into this? It isn't just a little static, it is major.

Thanks!
 

Slaimus

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What kind of static? Is it popping or buzzing? My reply in that mentioned thread was for light buzzing that is only audible with sensitive headphones at low volumes. If you are getting popping, it may be IRQ conflict or PCI latency.
 

dfedders

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Originally posted by: Slaimus
What kind of static? Is it popping or buzzing? My reply in that mentioned thread was for light buzzing that is only audible with sensitive headphones at low volumes. If you are getting popping, it may be IRQ conflict or PCI latency.

Its not just a light buzzing, and it usually coincides with the hard drive or DVD drive reading or writing. I don't think it should be an IRQ issue, because Windows XP handles "IRQs" different than DOS or Win95.

 

MajorPayne

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Originally posted by: dfedders
Originally posted by: Slaimus
What kind of static? Is it popping or buzzing? My reply in that mentioned thread was for light buzzing that is only audible with sensitive headphones at low volumes. If you are getting popping, it may be IRQ conflict or PCI latency.

Its not just a light buzzing, and it usually coincides with the hard drive or DVD drive reading or writing. I don't think it should be an IRQ issue, because Windows XP handles "IRQs" different than DOS or Win95.

I know you mentioned headphones, but have you tried speakers too? And if so, do they make the same noise. Additionally, are the headphones fitted to the jack natively, or do you need an adapter? And finally, do they have a long cord (to reach the back of the case) or do you have an extender on them (or maybe a front panel connection on your case)? Post answers to these questions, and we should be better able to help you diagnose/fix the problem.
 

dfedders

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I have not tried speakers. The headphones plug into the back of the case, just like they did with my old P4 computer. They are Sennheiser headphones, so they are pretty good.

I do not need an adapter to plug them in - they fit natively.

I tried reinstalling the nforce4 drivers, as well as the sound drivers. Also, I went in and disabled the onboard sound, and I still heard static and pops while in the bios. (It seems like every time the screen refreshed in the bios, I would hear it in the headphones, even with the onboard sound disabled)

I installed an OLD, OLD, Aureal Vortex2 sound card in one of the PCI slots, and I get no static at all out of there at all. It sounds perfect.

Is my motherboard broken? If so, I'm just wondering what other problems I could run into.
 

VirtualLarry

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You know what I think? I think that people should start to consider mobo designs in which there is any unacceptable background noise at all in the onboard sound, broken and unacceptable. And hardware sites (like this one), should really bag on mobo makers if the onboard sound (or LAN) is of unacceptable quality. I'm of the school of thought, that if you intend to do something, it should be done well (or at least minimally - it should be done acceptably), or it shouldn't be done at all. What is the point of including defective integrated sound? What real purpose does it serve, other that to simply satisfy a marketing bullet-point on the box, and create the appearance of being competitive with other mobos, when in fact, bad onboard sound is as useless as no onboard sound. Why should people pay for broken hardware? It doesn't make sense to me. I long for the days of yore, when mobos had tons of slots, and no "worthless" (cheap, shoddy) integrated hardware. The sad thing is, at least back in the i440BX days, some of the OEM mobos with integrated Crystal, Yamaha, or Creative audio - it sounded GOOD. So what is the problem these days? Mobos are fancier, have more features, are more complex, and cost more too. And yet, they often sound worse! They had the same sorts of analog audio problems, that the ancient low-budget 8-bit SoundBlaster ISA cheapo knockoffs had! Welcome back to 1998. :(

Edit: Additionally, one possible solution to implement some analog shielding/spacing, would be to use a riser card or a small, seperate PCB, containing the analog audio portion of the circuitry. Since it would generally need to be connected to the audio jacks located on the ATX I/O plate, then the PCB should be located somewhere near there. Even better would be to make it semi-modular, as often, the "controller" for the codec is located on the system chipset, and communicates digitally over a serial link to the "AC'97 CODEC", which then has analog audio connections on it. So slap the AC'97 onto that daughterboard, perhaps some caps/filters, and wire it to the ATX I/O analog sound connectors, and to the system chipset. If it were modular (and with the versajack/anyjack/etc. technology this would be really easy), then you could take the included 5.1 audio solution off of your older mobo, and drop-in a higher-end module like a 7.1 or 24-bit solution.

Now that I think about it, there's really not a lot of difference between the AMR/CNR/etc. slots in terms of a mini-card containing just a codec and maybe an amp circuit, except that the AMR slot is generally on the wrong part of the board, on the farthest slot from the ATX I/O bracket. If it were the nearest, then it might work out. I don't think that you would even need a connector of that size though, a smaller header-style connector on the mobo would do just fine, kind of like how the Creative WaveBlaster daughterboards connected to sound cards back in the day.

PS. The Vortex2 cards absolutely ROCK. Best 4-channel PCI sound card ever made, IMHO.

 
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I have the same mobo and have the same exact problem. Except that the problem extends into my sounc card as well. Onboard sound and Audigy give me major satic and crackles that coincide with the HD. This is BS. I put together this pc and now I'm going to have to undo it all cuz chaintech makes crap motherboards.