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My bad on misquoting you. Either way, I don't think she comes off as self-entitled. Her comments are relative. If she is putting an enormous effort toward being "normal" and he's being a deadbeat...then she should have reason to be upset with him spending money on his "love" rather than on the family where it is needed. I don't see the self-entitlement there.

She is on an internet forum posting about how much effort she's putting into things when her its not necessary. If she's unhappy she can just leave like most couples do nowadays. Again, referencing my grandparents, my grandmother spent from age 52 to 68 raising and schooling two kids who hated every minute of it. We were caustic to her everyday for being homeschooled even though in the end it was the best thing that ever happened to us. A year before our senior year she fell and broke both her ankles. Arthritis set in soon afterwards. Now at 70 she has been diagnosed with an incurable autoimmune disease similar to muscular dystrophy. This will slowly weaken her till she dies. She worked her whole life and when it came to her retirement years she chose to raise us instead. She now has lost the remaining years she has to her health. All her plans and dreams she'll never get to fufill. And yet I have NEVER ONCE heard her say how much she sacrificed for us. She never asked for a thank you, or went to other people with her sob story. Her life spoke for itself.

This woman made the decision to have a child that she was pregnant with. So raise your kid and do a good job. It's not something you deserve praise its doing *your job*. You don't go griping on a stupid car forum about your bf. Not when things are supposed to stay, you know, between them, like she antagonized him for (oh the irony).

She's self-entitled just as she is.
 
she deserves a pat on the back. she works hard and is bettering herself while maintaining a family. thats a lot of hard work and she deserves to be treated with a bit of respect by her deadbeat husband.

She deserves respect by her bf. She deserves a pat on the back from her kid for doing a good job. Otherwise she is one of millions doing what the majority of people on this earth do. Raise a kid while working. You think in the 1700s women didn't do anything but raise a kid? It's only in the first half of the 1900s that this idea formed that the only thing women needed to do was raise a kid. Women are generally expected to work in today's society.

EDIT: Also, she's not maintaining a family. She's griping and putting the final nail in the coffin between her and her bf. Understandable thing to do, but that's not keeping a family. The little kid now gets to be uprooted and spend the young years of her life being told how worthless men are, before some random man steps back into her life. It's not her father, but she'll be expected to accept that.

That's not a maintained family, its just a woman partially raising a kid while working. And I say partially because even she acknowledges that the father is not *entirely* out of the picture (and indeed, I think he's there more than she says).
 
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Here's a shortened version of it so you don't have to scroll through everything or if you're at work.

OP:
billz1109 said:
04-05-2010, 1:16 AM
My wife and my side chick aka my tl

I Love my GIRL and i take care of all of my responsibilities but everytime i save the money to buy something for the car is a problem. Even when i ask her and tell her what i am going to do in advance and at first she is ok with it then out of no where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY YOU GOT THAT SHIT IT DOESNT LOOK GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHY DOES THE CAR GET ALL THAT ATTENTION AND I DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BITCH COUSE ALL THAT CARS DOES IS GIVE ME PLEASURE AND ALL YOU DO IS FUCKING COMPLAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

I SWEAR SOMETIMES I WISH I WAS SINGLE BUT IT IS NOT ALWAYS BAD AT TIMES SHE CAN BE THE RIDE OR DIE CHICK THAT I NEED AN SHE GAVE ME MY GREATEST LOVE IN LIFE WHICH IS MY BABY GIRL "Elena"


Do any of you guys have this same problem or is it just me being too into my car?

40 blah blah ATOT like replies from the garage-like people

OP's wife, few days later
billz1109 said:
04-07-2010, 9:57 AM
Dear Billy,

This is your "wife" writing. Please note I am using this term loosely, because at the end of this letter, this will no longer be the case.

First of all, why are you putting our business on the internet? I have asked you and told you repeatedly that what happens to us is BETWEEN us. Clearly, your little plan to gain support backfired. Most of the people who commented on this thread AGREED WITH ME. The funny thing, is that they haven't even heard my side of the story.

So, since you insist on insulting me, I must insist on defending myself. Let's get a few things clear. When you are good, you are the greatest man I know. But ever since our child has been born, you have been nothing but a selfish idiot.

You are not the father of the year, so stop giving people the impression that you take care of her because I do all the work. She is 8 months old and I have been taking care of her ever since she was born. True, there was a month that you helped out because I called you a deadbeat dad, and you did take care of her after she was born because I had a C Section, but beyond that, the only time you take care of her is when you absolutely have to. Otherwise, you would rather pay for a sitter to do the job so you can spend your day online or working on your stupid car.

Which, incidentally, is under my name. Don't forget that.

Furthermore, the problem we have is not about the car. It is about your order of importance. Every time you have to take the car in for maintenance, I don't object. When you need to buy things that the car NEEDS, I don't object. But when you want to waste your money on frivolous items when you know we need to spend money on other things, LIKE YOUR CITIZENSHIP SO YOU CAN GET A DAMN JOB! then I have a problem. I think your peers would agree with me.

I love you more than any person I have ever loved in my life, but you are impossible to live with. I am working over 50 hours a week, I am taking 18 credits in school, and I am raising our daughter when I am not doing one or the other. All you do is work as a bouncer 3 nights a week. Dude, get real.

Why is it wrong that I want you to spend time with me, with us? When did I become a bitch because I want you in our life? Being in a relationship means sacrifice. Contrary to what you wrote, the "$13K worth of sh*t" that is in my closet was acquired BEFORE YOU CAME INTO THE PICTURE. I got that on my own. There is a reason why I don't have any new designer handbags, I have something much more valuable to me: MY DAUGHTER!!!

And, FYI, you are obligated to tell me what you are doing with your time and your money. I have a right to know where you are in case of emergency. Your "movements" as you call them are not what matters. What matters is that I know that you are safe and plan on coming home, because believe it or not I care about what happens to you. At least, I did.

In the end, I am sorry it came to this. I am sorry you felt that you had to talk to complete strangers about our problems instead of me. I am also sorry that this isn't going to work anymore, because I really do love you.

Perhaps next time you shouldn't leave your AcuraZine account logged on for me to view it. I have already opened up my own AcuraZine account, so if you delete this post, I will simply repost it under my own.

Hopefully with the next girl, you will have learned your lesson because I am tired of trying to raising you into being a man.

"And I'm on to the next one...."

Good Luck,
Rachel

P.S. Thank you to all that offered support. These last few months have been very challenging to me and it very endearing to see that I have the support of strangers. For those of you that have met us, I apologize that you had to see this. This kind of behavior is not appropriate. We are not legally married, and he has been given the option many times to leave if he is so unhappy.

I look forward to seeing the replys on this!!! FYI, if you do catch me on AcuraZine in the future (as I prefer to spend my free time with my daughter and not the internet), you will find me under MDX. Have to upgrade to a bigger car for the baby and dogs!

And don't worry about me. I will be fine. It isn't the first time the man I relied on showed me that he was unreliable.

then the rest is like 45 pages of lolz shens blah blah ATOT-like replies.
 
She deserves respect by her bf. She deserves a pat on the back from her kid for doing a good job. Otherwise she is one of millions doing what the majority of people on this earth do. Raise a kid while working. You think in the 1700s women didn't do anything but raise a kid? It's only in the first half of the 1900s that this idea formed that the only thing women needed to do was raise a kid. Women are generally expected to work in today's society.

EDIT: Also, she's not maintaining a family. She's griping and putting the final nail in the coffin between her and her bf. Understandable thing to do, but that's not keeping a family. The little kid now gets to be uprooted and spend the young years of her life being told how worthless men are, before some random man steps back into her life. It's not her father, but she'll be expected to accept that.

That's not a maintained family, its just a woman partially raising a kid while working. And I say partially because even she acknowledges that the father is not *entirely* out of the picture (and indeed, I think he's there more than she says).


Wow, you have serious anger issues. She was not on there to get a pat on the back. She was on there because according to her that is the only way she could communicate it to him, cause he brought their baggage onto a forum instead of to her face which is very high school.

Second, she had to explain her situation because it gives these guys a side of the story that allows them to make up their mind. If she didn't tell me she worked, and went to school, and made most of the money, I bet a lot of those guys would still think she is being selfish about his car.

She has a right to feel hurt about her bf creating a thread like that on a car forum. And i'm sorry to tell you, but that stuff about uprooting and what not.....that is becoming the future. Because parents don't know how to raise their children, children are having children and unfortunately that is going to lead to a lot of messed up kids. But the guy being a lazy piece if shit is what is going to ruin that kid, not her posting on a forum.
 
She is on an internet forum posting about how much effort she's putting into things when her its not necessary. If she's unhappy she can just leave like most couples do nowadays. Again, referencing my grandparents, my grandmother spent from age 52 to 68 raising and schooling two kids who hated every minute of it. We were caustic to her everyday for being homeschooled even though in the end it was the best thing that ever happened to us. A year before our senior year she fell and broke both her ankles. Arthritis set in soon afterwards. Now at 70 she has been diagnosed with an incurable autoimmune disease similar to muscular dystrophy. This will slowly weaken her till she dies. She worked her whole life and when it came to her retirement years she chose to raise us instead. She now has lost the remaining years she has to her health. All her plans and dreams she'll never get to fufill. And yet I have NEVER ONCE heard her say how much she sacrificed for us. She never asked for a thank you, or went to other people with her sob story. Her life spoke for itself.

This woman made the decision to have a child that she was pregnant with. So raise your kid and do a good job. It's not something you deserve praise its doing *your job*. You don't go griping on a stupid car forum about your bf. Not when things are supposed to stay, you know, between them, like she antagonized him for (oh the irony).

She's self-entitled just as she is.

You're grandmother is a saint...no doubt about it. You're lucky to have such a great person in your life as an inspiration.

I still don't think this women in the thread is being self-entitled...even if posting in an internet forum to "defend" her boyfriends accusations is just stupid. He made comments that she is being unreasonable about being upset that he spent money on his car. She defended why she was upset. Now if she was the OP stating how she was some hero and she had a douche of a husband and thinks she should be able to go buy a $13K purse...then I would agree with you. In this case, I just see her defending herself.
 
publicity stunt.

Before I bailed out from reading that endless pit of forum talk, I looked for another post of his. The OP did reply asking the admin to close the topic but since even the admin was participating in the thread and not complying with the OP's request, he called him shitbags or something along those lines.
 
She deserves respect by her bf. She deserves a pat on the back from her kid for doing a good job. Otherwise she is one of millions doing what the majority of people on this earth do. Raise a kid while working. You think in the 1700s women didn't do anything but raise a kid? It's only in the first half of the 1900s that this idea formed that the only thing women needed to do was raise a kid. Women are generally expected to work in today's society.

EDIT: Also, she's not maintaining a family. She's griping and putting the final nail in the coffin between her and her bf. Understandable thing to do, but that's not keeping a family. The little kid now gets to be uprooted and spend the young years of her life being told how worthless men are, before some random man steps back into her life. It's not her father, but she'll be expected to accept that.

That's not a maintained family, its just a woman partially raising a kid while working. And I say partially because even she acknowledges that the father is not *entirely* out of the picture (and indeed, I think he's there more than she says).

wtf. get off the internet and do something with your life, rather than judge people about theirs. you sound like a sheltered suburbanite tweener regurgitating some pedestrian garble that you learned in some high school home economics class.

BF is an obvious waste of carbon ricer. Girl seems to be doing everything she can, and then some, to support herself and her daughter.

The BF and you are definitely not streets ahead. 😉
 
Heh. Dissing the woman for posting on a message board. By posting on a message board. Clever, thecoolnessrune.

So basically, because this woman isn't your grandmother, she's self-entitled. That's very. . . not self centered of you?
 
Wow, you have serious anger issues. She was not on there to get a pat on the back. She was on there because according to her that is the only way she could communicate it to him, cause he brought their baggage onto a forum instead of to her face which is very high school.

Second, she had to explain her situation because it gives these guys a side of the story that allows them to make up their mind. If she didn't tell me she worked, and went to school, and made most of the money, I bet a lot of those guys would still think she is being selfish about his car.

She has a right to feel hurt about her bf creating a thread like that on a car forum. And i'm sorry to tell you, but that stuff about uprooting and what not.....that is becoming the future. Because parents don't know how to raise their children, children are having children and unfortunately that is going to lead to a lot of messed up kids. But the guy being a lazy piece if shit is what is going to ruin that kid, not her posting on a forum.

I'm hardly angry about it. I only find the situation unfortunate for the child. She didn't *have* to explain anything. She *chose* to. Just like she *chose* to have a child. She has every right to feel hurt about the thread just like he had every right to post it in the first place. If any logic is used you don't discredit the guy because a female jumps on and posts. I don't believe he does as much as he says in his OP but I also have no reason to believe that the woman is doing as much as she says she is. If the story is true, then I believe the truth lies somewhere in between, as in common when you have two people who simply are tired of each other. Either way, his actions will hurt the child. Her uprooting the child in search of another man (as she stated she intends to do) will also hurt the child. Both people in the end are causing more harm to the child than any good that they've stated in their posts.

You don't have to tell me about how "life" is. I don't even know my father and my mother was killed by a jealous ex-bf who never went to jail for it. I was juggled in foster care for 2 years while my mother's killer tried to get custody of us for our mother's life insurance policy that was on us. Our grandfather and grandmother saved us. There are heroes out there, but neither of the parents in that car thread qualify. They're just another ill-tempered couple shitting on each other with the kid stuck in the middle.
 
wtf. get off the internet and do something with your life, rather than judge people about theirs. you sound like a sheltered suburbanite tweener regurgitating some pedestrian garble that you learned in some high school home economics class.

BF is an obvious waste of carbon ricer. Girl seems to be doing everything she can, and then some, to support herself and her daughter.

The BF and you are definitely not streets ahead. 😉

I bolded your hypocrisy just in case your little piss spell there blinded you. My life is mine to live, and I feel I do so within the best of my ability and with all the energy I can put into it. I don't complain, I don't whine about my fortune. I'm happy with how my life turned out and don't feel the need to go shit on my gf every time she gripes to someone about something I messed up.
 
Heh. Dissing the woman for posting on a message board. By posting on a message board. Clever, thecoolnessrune.

So basically, because this woman isn't your grandmother, she's self-entitled. That's very. . . not self centered of you?

My grandmother is but one person who did the best she could even though she had no obligation to. There are many people out there that have done similar or greater things. This woman in that thread isn't one of them. And neither am I.
 
She is on an internet forum posting about how much effort she's putting into things when her its not necessary. If she's unhappy she can just leave like most couples do nowadays. Again, referencing my grandparents, my grandmother spent from age 52 to 68 raising and schooling two kids who hated every minute of it. We were caustic to her everyday for being homeschooled even though in the end it was the best thing that ever happened to us. A year before our senior year she fell and broke both her ankles. Arthritis set in soon afterwards. Now at 70 she has been diagnosed with an incurable autoimmune disease similar to muscular dystrophy. This will slowly weaken her till she dies. She worked her whole life and when it came to her retirement years she chose to raise us instead. She now has lost the remaining years she has to her health. All her plans and dreams she'll never get to fufill. And yet I have NEVER ONCE heard her say how much she sacrificed for us. She never asked for a thank you, or went to other people with her sob story. Her life spoke for itself.

This woman made the decision to have a child that she was pregnant with. So raise your kid and do a good job. It's not something you deserve praise its doing *your job*. You don't go griping on a stupid car forum about your bf. Not when things are supposed to stay, you know, between them, like she antagonized him for (oh the irony).

She's self-entitled just as she is.

From what I can see, she's countering her douchebag (now ex-) boyfriend's post for the forum to get her side of the story. I don't think you know the definition of self-entitlement.
 
Hello All,

This is Rachel writing. I haven't been paying much attention to this thread because I am trying to finish with school, but it was just brought to my attention how explosive things have become. I feel that there are some things that need to be explained.

I deeply regret putting his personal information out there. It was wrong of me to put such intimate details of our lives out there. I was angry when I read that. After days of fighting, that was the last straw for me.

"Too low for fat hoes" is not on our car. He took that picture at a meet up we went to. It is actually on another person's car. (I mean really, do you think I would allow those words on a car that my daughter will eventually learn to read?)

Although it does not appear to be so, Billy is actually making an effort at home. Perhaps he needed to be judged by his peers to see some of the errors of his ways. Whether or not we end up staying together is not known, but for the sake of our daughter, he and I are both trying to make it work. We both come from broken homes and can appreciate the absence of a parent. I have seen firsthand the devestating effect the absence of a father creates, especially on little girls. I will not allow this for her.

I am not writing this because he asked me to, and this is not staged. This is really our life and I hate that we have put it out there to be scrutinized. However, the overwhelming support I have received has really made me feel good about myself and what I am trying to accomplish.

Billy is an idiot for responding the way he has, but he really is a good guy. I know you cannot see what I see, but it is because of those good qualities in him that I will try as hard as I can until there is nothing left to give. Those of you may feel that I am stupid or weak for forgiving him and trying to work things out, but for those with children, for those out there that love their children and their family, then you know what I am doing and why I am doing it.

That's her in post #374. She hardly sounds selfish to me...
 
From what I can see, she's countering her douchebag (now ex-) boyfriend's post for the forum to get her side of the story. I don't think you know the definition of self-entitlement.

She feels she's entitled to give her side of the story about all her amazing accomplishments on a forum about cars. A forum that she doesn't have any care for, aside from her side of the story, to strangers that she doesn't know, all while touting how its bad to air dirty laundry to random strangers on the internet. Ummm.. I don't think you know the definition.
 
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