Major corporation doesnt like the Olds. Big surprise.

shortylickens

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I've been hearing about discrimination since I was a teen. The major complaint is older workers demand to be treated with respect, whereas kids are willing to put up with more bullshit, at least for a while. And of course thats really what a corporation wants, mute robots.
People with their stupid feelings just make trouble.
 

cytg111

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I've been hearing about discrimination since I was a teen. The major complaint is older workers demand to be treated with respect, whereas kids are willing to put up with more bullshit, at least for a while. And of course thats really what a corporation wants, mute robots.
People with their stupid feelings just make trouble.

Funny, I got the opposite experience. I freelance, done so for most of my adult working life, its a nice chance to get around, meet new faces, learn new things, keep upstairs busy.
Anyway, it's my take that the new generation get fatigue syndrome fast, I find it easier to out work and out smart younger people "I am tired" "I am stressed" "I dont know how to do this, so I cant" etc.

Meh, its probably a stereotype take on the next generation, there has always been an elder bitching about em being bitches ;).
 

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I've been hearing about discrimination since I was a teen. The major complaint is older workers demand to be treated with respect, whereas kids are willing to put up with more bullshit, at least for a while. And of course thats really what a corporation wants, mute robots.
People with their stupid feelings just make trouble.

Now that all the "dinobabies" are forced out of IBM and replaced by the cool kids...
How is IBM doing as a company?

As for age discrimination in tech, maybe the story is a bit more complicated.

“IBM India, in the truest sense, is a microcosm of the IBM company,” Vanitha Narayanan, chairman of the company’s Indian operations, said in an interview at IBM’s main campus in Bangalore, where the office towers are named after American golf courses like Peachtree and Pebble Beach.

The work in India has been vital to keeping down costs at IBM, which has posted 21 consecutive quarters of revenue declines as it has struggled to refashion its main business of supplying tech services to corporations and governments.
The tech industry has been shifting jobs overseas for decades, and other big American companies like Oracle and Dell also employ a majority of their workers outside the United States.
But IBM is unusual because it employs more people in a single foreign country than it does at home. The company’s employment in India has nearly doubled since 2007, even as its work force in the United States has shrunk through waves of layoffs and buyouts. Although IBM refuses to disclose exact numbers, outsiders estimate that it employs well under 100,000 people at its American offices now, down from 130,000 in 2007. Depending on the job, the salaries paid to Indian workers are one-half to one-fifth those paid to Americans, according to data posted by the research firm Glassdoor.


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/12/...2685&surface=home-featured&variant=0_identity
 

BarkingGhostar

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IBM is far from being the only large company conducting such practices. I do not doubt for one second my employer is doping it and has been for the past decade.
 

pauldun170

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Our millennial population trails competitors. The data below is very sensitive – not to be shared – but wanted to make sure you have it. You will see that while Accenture is 72% millennial we are at 42% with a wide range and many units falling well below that average. Speaks to the need to hire early professionals – and to avoid using downbanding of existing employees as a way to fill jobs. Honestly I think we should stop this practice – it means over-paying, creates blockers and inhibits bringing in new thinking from the outside.

Going through comments at https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2022/02/14/ibm_age_discrimination_court_documents/

A good point. Accenture is known for its phenomenal churn-rate of young employees, and that keeps their median age artificially low (if you keep losing lots of 23-year-olds before they hit 24, and hire in new 22-year-olds to replace them, it's going to push down your numbers).

A higher median age is normally a sign of a company that people want to stay working with for the long term; so you can’t help but think that IBM is actively trying to make its working environment less hospitable...

Maybe the reason that Acc(id)enture has such a high proportion of younger employees is that they very rapidly leave the company in favour of better employment elsewhere.


I left IBM 2 years ago. At the time I had recently assembled a small team of frontend web developers. We interviewed about 15 candidates, all of whom were graduating college. Professional candidates were not allowed.
 
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BarkingGhostar

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In today's environment it is more about low-balling the young on salary and abusing them more then the seasoned employees would take.