Mainstream Fermi in June, dual Fermi in April?

[lifeblood]

I think many people are over exaggerating the importance of DX11, which at this point is almost nil. Until several really good full DX11 games hit the market, it's just not that important and offers no compelling reason to upgrade.

I think you are underestimating DX11, but not without some good reason. DX10 was generally a failure, but that is because Vista was a (marketing) failure. If DX10 worked on XP it probably would have taken off, but it didn't. Now that MS has released Win7, which is far more popular and being switched to much faster than Vista was, I am confident DX11 will correspondingly take off.

 

[SHAQ]

$699 and $799..$1299?

Let's be serious with guesses please.$599 tops for the 380 is more like it and might be $549. The x2 might be $749 at the most but I would bet closer to $699. I am surprised that Fuad thinks the X2 will be as soon as 1 month after the 380. It is usually several months later for an X2 card.

 

[Hauk]

I would not be surprised if a single GTX380 can beat a 5970.

In poor multi-gpu scaling scenarios, very likely. In good scaling scenarios, minimum framerates will be interesting to see..

 

[SmCaudata]

$699 and $799..$1299?

Let's be serious with guesses please.$599 tops for the 380 is more like it and might be $549. The x2 might be $749 at the most but I would bet closer to $699. I am surprised that Fuad thinks the X2 will be as soon as 1 month after the 380. It is usually several months later for an X2 card.

I'm betting $499 and $699 for the 360 and 380 respectively. It has 50% higher transistor count than the AMD chip, a reportedly lower yield, and had a lot more development dollars thrown in. The 5xxx series was an incremental change as they have been playing with tesselation and some of the other features for some time. Nvidia make a pretty big overhaul, while cool, they have a lot to recover.

If you look at Nvidias pricing history, when have their top end card ever actually been close on price/performance. The AMD/ATI 5xxx series are reasonably close on price/performance when compared to the 4xxx cards even with the price increase.

The Nvidia prices will likely be so high that AMD will not need to decrease prices. I am guessing that we will not see a drop in 5xxx prices for at least 3-4 months after Fermi is out.

 

[ronnn]

Lets hope this is true! Competition is good.

 

[Qbah]

That's still quite some time away... Meaning no pressure in performance+ segments at all until then. Too bad.

And DX11 is hardly a compelling reason to upgrade your card if it already plays current games fine (I'd even say it's a total waste). Now, if you're buying a new card or going from something slow like a 9600GSO or HD4670, there's really no reason to go green. Hence the current prices in the red camp and AMD sucking every possible penny from their buyers.

 

[Attic]

AvP comes out in less than a month and this is going to a game that should be played with DX11 hardware.

 

[happy medium]

List of games that added support, or have support, or plan to support direct x 11.
Don't put on your glasses on, it's short!

Most of the good ones come later this year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_11_support

Top 10 upcomming games for 2010 that use direct x 11

http://www.digitalbattle.com/2009/10/27/top-10-upcoming-directx-11-games/

For me this is why direct x 11 is not all that important. Yet!


All of these games run with direct x10.

 

[SHAQ]

AvP comes out in less than a month and this is going to a game that should be played with DX11 hardware.

If it's good you have an excuse to replay it when you get a DX11 card.

 

[Lonyo]

List of games that added support, or have support, or plan to support direct x 11.
Don't put on your glasses on, it's short!

Most of the good ones come later this year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_11_support

Top 10 upcomming games for 2010 that use direct x 11

http://www.digitalbattle.com/2009/10/27/top-10-upcoming-directx-11-games/

For me this is why direct x 11 is not all that important. Yet!


All of these games run with direct x10.

I think the main thing stopping widespread adoption of new DX versions is Epic/UnrealEngine.
Until the UnrealEngine supports the new API, it won't be particularly widely used, and that's not going to happen for a while.

Also on that second list they don't seem to have done much fact checking, like saying Alan Wake will come out on PS3...

 

[happy medium]

It was comming out for the ps3 ,but was cancelled.

http://www.ps3informer.com/playstat...ctually-from-cancelled-ps3-project-009810.php

But I see what your saying.

 

[Lonyo]

It was comming out for the ps3 ,but was cancelled.

http://www.ps3informer.com/playstat...ctually-from-cancelled-ps3-project-009810.php

But I see what your saying.

Alan Wake was picked up by Microsoft for publishing a loooooooooong time ago. Like... years. Anyone who, since then, has suggested a PS3 release, is basically living in a dream world.