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Mainframe programming - how bad is it?

Juddog

Diamond Member
This is mostly a question for you mainframe developers out there with some experience, and also for any programmers out there.

I used to be a mainframe programmer / analyst, from 1997 - 2002 or so all I did was mainframe work. JCL, MVS/TSO, CICS, COBOL, Easytrieve, etc.. I have hundreds of dollars in programming books, SQL, Informix, Unix, etc. and mainframe books you can't even seem to buy.

Then the industry that I was within flopped in 2002, the company I was working for (Consolidated Freightways) declared bankruptcy and laid everybody off within the programming department. This caused a flood of extra programmers for any available COBOL / mainframe slots in the area. My outlook was bleak, despite applying to hundreds of jobs I only got maybe 5 interviews over the next 6 months, and every one that I did apply to, I was competing against maybe 30 other mainframe programmers that had applied. In addition some other companies folded in the area, making it so even simple jobs were close to impossible to get (for example one guy I talked to went through over 600 resumes for a simple receptionist job).

I moved back East with my girlfriend (now fiance) to try and rebuild my life, got back into doing helpdesk type work for the last 5 years or so. I have gotten some base IT support certs, A+ and Net+ mainly.

What I am wondering is : is it worth it to start trying to study mainframe programming again, spend hours and hours memorizing coding, or should I give up, go back to school for 3-4 years and start over as a client / server programmer? I am one of those people who actually did enjoy coding, but don't know any of the more common languages like C++ or VB (well I have done a little bit of C++ but that was 10 years ago).

Cliff notes:
* got laid off, couldn't find another job due to flooded market
* moved to east coast
* would like to get a job programming
 
Stick your resume out on some of the job boards and see if there are any nibbles.

Search through the same jobs boards using specific keywords that match your strengths.

You may end up with mainly headhunters; but use them - they usually have leads within the market.

Just taking a quick scan through Dice showed 1400+ jobs that referenced at least one of the folowing words (JCL, CISC COBOL)
 
There's still demand for COBOL programmers. You would do yourself a world of good to learn J2EE or .net, because a huge number of jobs are out there for people who know both because there are a crazy number of projects to convert from mainframe to web these days.
 
Originally posted by: torpid
There's still demand for COBOL programmers. You would do yourself a world of good to learn J2EE or .net, because a huge number of jobs are out there for people who know both because there are a crazy number of projects to convert from mainframe to web these days.

How hard is .net to pick up? I don't know it at all, but I see that listed as a requirement in what seems like the majority of COBOL jobs out there these days on the jobfinder sites.
 
Where do you live? In NJ, there's a training program called SetFocus that I went to a couple years ago that trains in .NET. There were definitely several mainframe type programmers in that class, and most people get great jobs going out of there (it's how I have my development position).
 
Originally posted by: Tencntraze
Where do you live? In NJ, there's a training program called SetFocus that I went to a couple years ago that trains in .NET. There were definitely several mainframe type programmers in that class, and most people get great jobs going out of there (it's how I have my development position).

Buffalo, NY.
 
I put my resume on monster today just for the heck of it... I've already gotten two calls today since I put it up!
 
Did you by any chance work for Computer Task Group from 1997-2002?
I'm an ex-COBOL/JCL programmer in exactly the same position as you although I got laid off in 1999.
I went through CTG's 6 week training course in Buffalo, NY back in 1997.

**Nevermind, I just noticed the OP where you mention the company you worked for... **
 
Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Did you by any chance work for Computer Task Group from 1997-2002?
I'm an ex-COBOL/JCL programmer in exactly the same position as you although I got laid off in 1999.
I went through CTG's 6 week training course in Buffalo, NY back in 1997.

**Nevermind, I just noticed the OP where you mention the company you worked for... **

I sent you a PM 😀
 
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