magnetic waves given off my subwoofer

DrZone

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Since subwoofers ARE NOT magnetically shielded like speakers, would they do any damage to hardware if if is placed about 2-3 feet from the tower ?

thanks in advance.
 

Workin'

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Nope. 2-3 feet will not cause any problems. Actually, I have had mine 1/2 inch from the side of my tower for the past 3 years.
 

bacillus

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<< would they do any damage to hardware if if is placed about 2-3 feet from the tower ? >>


highly unlikely!
 

arcenite

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Mine sits... uh... Mine is touching my tower, no problems yet. But then again, it's only 18 watts >:|
 

Gosharkss

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Odds are no, but I would periodically back up my HD if I where you. The subwoofer will interfer with your monitor however.

 

MWink

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My huge Altec Lansing 40W sits about a foot from my case and I've never had a problem. Though it must have a strong magnetic field because once I found a case screw inside of it. It must have been pulled at least 6 inches horizontally to get in there! :Q
 

Howard

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A strong magnetic field will wreak havoc with a hard drive's data (uses magnetism to store data).
 

DrZone

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<< A strong magnetic field will wreak havoc with a hard drive's data (uses magnetism to store data). >>



that's exactly why i asked what a safe distance is.. i dont wanna be losing data because of a subwoofer !

i have an altec lansing 40W sitting about 3ft from the tower
 

Workin'

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Don't worry about it! Think - there's a freakin' magnet INSIDE the hard drive, that's how electric motors work. Not to mention all the fans inside the machine, etc.

Hard drives are not that sensitive to magnetic fields.
 

BD2003

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Well sh*t, I have a 120 watt subwoofer 2 inchers from my tower, and not a problem here....
 

Howard

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<< Hard drives are not that sensitive to magnetic fields. >>


How about you take the exact same magnet of the hard drive you're using right now (not from it, just the the same) and swipe the outside? Neodymium works wonders, eh?

The one in speakers are probably ferrite, though.
 

JJ650

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Neodymium magnets are quite strong but their fields are not very large. You just don't wanna have a magent change the field of your existing ones on your harddrive. In order to do that, you would have to have a strong field (neodymium, per say) near it, on it, or something with a larger field.
In most cases, you are safe. Just keep it away from your monitor or you'll be degaussing for a couple days or investing in a new one.

*EDIT*


TO give you an idea, I have my case sitting ontop of my Klipsch sub. No harm done. A steel case actually affords some protection to EM fields, albeit not too much.
 

DSTA

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With 2-3 feet distance, I don't think there will be a problem.

BTW, real world example illustrating magnetism can harm hdds: the local railway company introduced a new compartment a while ago.
Soon later people would complain about defective laptop hdds after having been on one of the new trains. Turns out that they used some pretty strong magnets inside the little tablets, to hold them up against the seat when not in use. Some laptops that have a hdd in the front left or right corner had the drive sit right on top of the magnet when used on the tablet...
 

MGMorden

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Also realize that even though the magnet's a lot smaller just about everyone here has that nice little pc speaker inside their case which is also usually mounted quite close to the hard drive. If you take a magnet and start waving it right in front of the drive then of course you're going to mess it up but don't worry about your speakers (especially a lowly computer speaker) outside of the case.
 

Goosemaster

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I know someone is already doing this but I want more opinions.


Would putting my 160-watt klipsch subwoofer under my ANtec 1030w case creat ANY RISK HOWEVER NEGLIGABLE IT MAY BE. I think it might help with my rooms asthetics and was thinking about it. As it stands, it will be about 3-4 ft away from my monitor, between to adjacent pieces of furniture

Here is a drawing
Monitor l
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xxx xxxxx

xxx xxxxx
xxxl C lxxxxx
xxxl A lxxxxx
xxxl S lxxxxx
xxxl E lxxxxx
xxxl________lxxxxx


EDIT: Sorry about the image..it works when editing but not in the final product.

Basically imagine a desk and a three-drawer dresser, with the box tight in the middle. The monitor is on the dresser to the left.
 

PH0ENIX

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Well, I dont think there's any real problem with putting your PC near a home HI-FI speaker... and thats a damn sight more powerful than any of these computer speaker setups!

I did sit a monitor on one once; thats not a good thing at all ;)

But one of the things that people neglect, is that despite the fact that the magnets in HDD's have a low-range field, they're still magnetically shielded.
Which means, simply, that you'd need a damn powerful magnet to affect the HDD.

Laptop HDD's are different; they have a lot less shielding in the interests of weight reduction. Pull one apart - you can see for yourself.

I believe there has been a thread here before, regarding the effects of magnetic screwdrivers on computer hardware...

If you took one of my 350w Pioneer subs and stuck the back end about 1/2" away from the mainboard; there's a good chance it'd be bad for something, but it's still fairly unlikely.
I wouldn't worry about it too much :p

If you're wondering what effect a sub would have on your monitor, here's a nice safe practical experiment...

1) Put up a screen showing as many colours as possible.
2) Turn the monitor upside down...

Hint: You get the same effect trying to use a monitor manufacturered down here, in the northern hemisphere...
 

Eli

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I don't know that neodymium has to have a small magnetic field....


http://www.wondermagnet.com/dev/magnet5.html




<< Not for children...obviously-and not for toys. If you have not handled Neodymium magnets before, please order something smaller so you understand the dangers here. One of these will noticably distort a computer monitor from over 30" away. Keep these well away from electronics, and magnetic storage medium. Don't buy these if you have a pacemaker. >>



lol...
 

PH0ENIX

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They dont HAVE to have a smaller field, it's just that because of their strength, they're generally smaller - and because of the small size, they only have a small field.

A BIG rare-earth magnet isn't so much fun, as scary ;)

Still, I would buy one if I had some spare cash...
 

Goosemaster

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<< Well, I dont think there's any real problem with putting your PC near a home HI-FI speaker... and thats a damn sight more powerful than any of these computer speaker setups! >>




Actually I'm Flattered..its a Klipsch 4.1 ...hehe..this badboy can do <20hz and below albeit at low vloumes. Anything above that it can do at almost full volume.

(i think that is what the sample said . All i know is that the drywall was shaking ALOT and that is not a lie)

60wattx4 and sub is 160Watts ............ALL RMS....= 400WATTS

Above that I think peak is 700watts


HEHEHEHEHEHHEHHE...oh






excuse me. I get carried away with THEIR AMAZING POWer...



oh... Sorry 'bout that..
 

Workin'

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<< its a Klipsch 4.1 ...hehe..this badboy can do <20hz and below albeit at low vloumes. >>

There is no way on planet Earth that Klipsch (or any other) "multimedia" speakers have ANY kind of output at 20Hz. It is not physically possible. $1000 audiophile subwoofers with 15" drivers and 1000W amps don't usually have useable output that low. The Promedia's don't even have a subwoofer. They have a "bass module". You're lucky if you get any true 50Hz output - anything below that will only be reproduced as 2nd or 3rd order harmonics, if at all.

NO speaker has an external magnetic field strong enough to even come remotely close to damaging your computer.
 

PH0ENIX

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Hmmm...

Goosemaster;

As far as computer speakers go - that setup sounds quite mean... I dont know one way or another if they're really capable of that low freq. range though ;)

But, 2x 300w 8" Pioneers, 2x 350w 10" Alpine (car subs), 4x 80w 4.5" pioneer mids, 2x '160w' (has that as RMS rating, but I doubt the truth of it) 3" worm silk liquid-cooled tweeters...

Thats only 1620w RMS - ah heck all - sounds... oh p*ss poor :D

Im fairly sure I can get below 20hz at usable volume :p

Workin`;

I wouldn't say NO speaker has an external field that strong - but certainly no speaker that your average joe can afford ;)
Then again, it also depends what you're talking about damaging... Im willing to bet that a strong enough magnetic field could erase an IC...
 

Bovinicus

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My subwoofer sits approximately 2 feet from my tower. It has been for over a year. I never have stability problems.