Magic Mushrooms can benefit cancer patients

[Blackjack200]

The results? Those who had been dosed with psilocybin had improved mood up to six months after their trip. That's substantial, considering that the patients are facing death. They also required less pain medication.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20015660-10391704.html

Holy hell, just get rid of the drug laws already. Are we really still policing this stuff in 2010? How pathetic.

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[Anubis]

yea i read this earlier.

somewhere an American/central American indian tribe is sayaing NO SHIT we knew about this 2000 years ago

 

[Blackjack200]

yea i read this earlier.

somewhere an American/central American indian tribe is sayaing NO SHIT we knew about this 2000 years ago

Not sure if you read TFA or not, but they mentioned that psylocybin is almost never studied because of its status. This is a big problem with other illicit drugs from cocaine and heroin to PCP and LSD. We just don't know that much about them (including potential therapudic benefits) because no one studies them; and no one studies them because they are illegal.

 

[olds]

I did extensive studies in the 70s.

 

[Anubis]

Not sure if you read TFA or not, but they mentioned that psylocybin is almost never studied because of its status. This is a big problem with other illicit drugs from cocaine and heroin to PCP and LSD. We just don't know that much about them (including potential therapudic benefits) because no one studies them; and no one studies them because they are illegal.

yes i read it, my comment was related to the fact that many native peoples in the Americas have used various psychotropics for centuries. mushrooms, cactus,... for both spiritual and medicinal healing reasons. For some of them its still legal to use.

 

[destrekor]

Nature article

I cannot find the exact article I had used for a philosophy assignment (surprisingly, I think it was for my Statistics course, which I opted for the Philosophy of Statistics course to fulfill that requirement), but that above article does seem to refer to the same study I previously wrote about.

Psilocybin isn't just helpful for cancer patients, it's beneficial for many medical problems, though mostly for mental disorders like depression.

There is a lot of good with the chemical, but the issue is the legality as well as the style of use. You have to have a strong mind or have a controlled environment; you can have a weak mind, but have to have the right environment/conditions to help push the experience in the right direction. A bad experience can be tough for someone who already has mental issues.

It's one of many drugs that play in what I like to refer to as the spirituality-sector of the brain. When you tap into that section of the brain, there is a lot of good that can come from it - it's the same area of the brain responsible for all the "benefits" of religion... I find religion disgusting, but it's one of many ways to tap into your brain's self-help region.

 

[Gibson486]

It's just a different pain killer, that's all. It's no different from marijuana, which is used in chemo now.

 

[MikeMike]

It's just a different pain killer, that's all. It's no different from marijuana, which is used in chemo now.

I don't think you can classify it as a pain killer...

 

[Perknose]

I did extensive studies in the 70s.

It didn't improve your mood.

 

[destrekor]

It didn't improve your mood.

Well it is only temporary. He apparently gave up said studies since then.

 

[Gibson486]

I don't think you can classify it as a pain killer...

well, it alters your mind so you feel something else besides the pain or whatever they are trying to cover up.

 

[MikeMike]

well, it alters your mind so you feel something else besides the pain or whatever they are trying to cover up.

it's just food poisoning...

 

[Zedtom]

I have discussed the issue of alternative medications with professionals in the medical industry. Some are open minded and would like to see more Eastern style approaches blended into the healing mix. The majority, however, have been thoroughly indoctrinated and see too many risks- mostly to their own professions.

 

[darkxshade]

Well it is only temporary. He apparently gave up said studies since then.

What he really meant to say is that he has since moved on up from conducting the studies on himself to administering them to the many subjects who has volunteered to be locked in his basement.

 

[preslove]

Not only are the drug laws preventing actual use of psychedelics, but the DEA is actively preventing research into their use for a wide range of psychiatric conditions.

 

[zinfamous]

It's just a different pain killer, that's all. It's no different from marijuana, which is used in chemo now.

psylocibin is a hallucinogen. THC is not.


that being said, I never had very good experiences with mushrooms, primarily b/c I was mostly in piss poor environments and mood to tolerate it.

The only good experience I had was at MerleFest one year. that was epic.

 

[Zebo]

My research is on going. j/k I have not done shrooms since 22. But looking forward to cancer now.

 

[Zebo]

psylocibin is a hallucinogen. THC is not.


that being said, I never had very good experiences with mushrooms, primarily b/c I was mostly in piss poor environments and mood to tolerate it.

The only good experience I had was at MerleFest one year. that was epic.

Try Butcharb gardens in Vancouver, Feels like you died and went to heaven on earth.

 

[preslove]

I have discussed the issue of alternative medications with professionals in the medical industry. Some are open minded and would like to see more Eastern style approaches blended into the healing mix. The majority, however, have been thoroughly indoctrinated and see too many risks- mostly to their own professions.

This isn't "alternative medicine." LSD and Psilocybin were a huge deal in mainstream psychiatric research in the 1960's, but then those fucking idiots ken kesey and the merry pranksters went around bumfuck USA giving rubes free lsd and scared the shit out of middle america. It was all outlawed and then the research just ground to a halt. Now to do any research on psychedelics you have to get DEA and NIDA approval, and guess what, they don't like to give that approval out.

Most practitioners today won't approve because they aren't aware of the research, which is almost uniformly positive, because there isn't a lot of it v.s. the tons of research done on conventional (and very lucrative) anti-depressants.

Another issue is $. With psychedelics, you are *administered* one dose and that should last you. MAYBE depending on your condition, you'll have a repeat or two, but you aren't (in a clinical application) going to be consuming a lot of the drug. This means there really isn't much money in psychedelics for the pharmaceutical companies when you compare them to current depression/OCD/mood disorder medications, SSRIs especially, that require a DAILY dose. If you're a for-profit company, which one are you gonna spend your research $ on?