MAGA marchers descend on DC. Violence follows.

[Wreckem]

Yes, there are right wing agitators who have instigated violence, that is not in dispute. However, it wasn’t right wing agitators who shot up a congressional baseball game, assaulted police in both Seattle and Portland or assaulted journalists for filming in their little autonomous zones. Those looking for violence are increasingly finding it.

The police assaulted over 200 journalists during the protests in May and June...

 

[NWRMidnight]

Of course you have evidence of this beyond what some people said on twitter. Yes, right wing groups have instigated some, but not all. It sounds like you’re trying to rationalize the violence you approve of.

You have a comprehension problem. No where did I approve anything, I corrected your misinformation. I also said the majority where right wing extremist groups, I never said they did it all. I also said YOU need to do some REAL FACTUAL research. I am not going to hold your hand and teach you the facts. Only takes a few seconds to google and you will get many articles discussing it from many sources. But of course your Cult leader Trump blamed the left side, so to you that is fact enough, even though he's spent the last 4+ years lying to you with many of the right wing media sources peddling those lies.

 

[ElMonoDelMar]

They do, and there is no excuse for any side to engage in violence. Have they assaulted police and established a MAGA autonomous zone with armed sentries yet?

Hey, look, it's a right wing autonomous zone with the Gravy Seals pointing guns at federal agents (assault).

 

[ch33zw1z]

Hey, look, it's a right wing autonomous zone with the Gravy Seals pointing guns at federal agents (assault).

You've been starbucked. He knows full well that the right wing in our country has a long history of anti-gubbermint and violence, he just don't care because even a single instance from someone other than the right wing makes it "bothsides", no context required. Stay tuned for continued logical fallacies and intentional misinformation.

 

[ch33zw1z]

The police assaulted over 200 journalists during the protests in May and June...

Nothing says we're sorry and we'll change like more beatings.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Hey, look, it's a right wing autonomous zone with the Gravy Seals pointing guns at federal agents (assault).

How did that work out for them? Was it fascism when the federal government asserted its authority in the face of armed insurrection...nope. I have no sympathy for 2A militia libertarian types and their “grievances” against the government.

 

[HomerJS]

Party of violence begets violence

 

[Starbuck1975]

You have a comprehension problem. No where did I approve anything, I corrected your misinformation. I also said the majority where right wing extremist groups, I never said they did it all. I also said YOU need to do some REAL FACTUAL research. I am not going to hold your hand and teach you the facts. Only takes a few seconds to google and you will get many articles discussing it from many sources. But of course your Cult leader Trump blamed the left side, so to you that is fact enough, even though he's spent the last 4+ years lying to you with many of the right wing media sources peddling those lies.

My comprehension is just fine. You engaged me with an assertion, its on you to back it up. Now, if you said the majority of all political violence in America is instigated by right wing types, I can’t argue that because the facts prove otherwise, there is no discussion to be had. Specific to the BLM movement, you will need to provide evidence that the majority of looting, arson, assault and suppression of free speech were conducted by Trumpers.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Domestic terrorism will be an enduring Trump admin legacy.

 

[NWRMidnight]

My comprehension is just fine. You engaged me with an assertion, its on you to back it up. Now, if you said the majority of all political violence in America is instigated by right wing types, I can’t argue that because the facts prove otherwise, there is no discussion to be had. Specific to the BLM movement, you will need to provide evidence that the majority of looting, arson, assault and suppression of free speech were conducted by Trumpers.

Wait, you come in here and spread misinformation, and it's my responsibility to backup the truth, when I tell you to go educate yourself because you are full of crap, specially when the truth is available at your finger tips? Get the hell out of here. Go educate yourself.

Also, NO where did I say by Trumpeters or anything about suppression of free speech. I said right wing extremists. So not only do you have a comprehension problem, you are adding stuff I never said.. aka lying.

 

[SmCaudata]

Yes, there are right wing agitators who have instigated violence, that is not in dispute. However, it wasn’t right wing agitators who shot up a congressional baseball game, assaulted police in both Seattle and Portland or assaulted journalists for filming in their little autonomous zones. Those looking for violence are increasingly finding it.

And those acts were roundly condemned by the left. The left DOES hold both sides accountable I those situations. The right refuses to hold their own side accountable. In fact, they are treating a 17 year old like the the second coming for illegally carrying a weapon across state lines, seeking out protestors, then shooting at them, killing one. The reason BLM, Antifa, and every single liberal in the country gets so damned pissed is that Republicans refuse to hold their own accountable, ever.


Think of the me too movement. Trump claimed paying off a porn star on his tax return. He was heard bragging about, "grab em by the pussy." Silence from the right. Al Franken touched a few butts during a photo op and pretended to touch a woman's chest while she was sleeping. The democrats forced him to step down sue to his actions.


Face it, the right is more violent, racist and destructive because they never face consequences. No one was charged in michigan for going to the personal home of an democratically elected official making armed threats. Black people would have been shot for doing the same and you damn well know it.

 

[Zorba]

See the Anne Frank thread. They award virtue signal points based on how oppressed they feel someone is. Not based on actual acts, crimes committed, etc ...

You can entirely destroy statues from our founders of Thomas Jefferson or George Washington and it's aight.... you can write in spray paint of buildings "kill all cops" and it's no big deal... But if a troll just tapes a piece of paper with a swastika on an Anne Frank statue they multiply the crime exponentially because it triggers their virtue signals.

Just think about it. Whomever the troll was literally did ZERO substantial damage to it. But for some reason they multiply it just to appeal to their base. It's pretty comical.

Remember when defending Nazis in the US was a third rail? Right up there with defending child rapists. Amazing what 4 years of racism can do to a country.

I'll not at all for tearing down statues of founders and people should be held accountable for it. But there is a difference in the two and if you refuse to see it, it's likely time to pause and reflect.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Thoughtful post, you covered a lot here, I will offer a different perspective:

And those acts were roundly condemned by the left. The left DOES hold both sides accountable I those situations. The right refuses to hold their own side accountable. In fact, they are treating a 17 year old like the the second coming for illegally carrying a weapon across state lines, seeking out protestors, then shooting at them, killing one. The reason BLM, Antifa, and every single liberal in the country gets so damned pissed is that Republicans refuse to hold their own accountable, ever.

That’s not entirely true, and while Rittenhouse committed a felony in terms of obtaining and carrying weapons, the chain of events that led to the shooting are more complex. He is no martyr, neither was one of his victims. Neither is Reinoehl.

BLM and Antifa are movements, not organizations, so its hard to determine affiliation when agitators engage in violence. The autonomous zones that emerged in Portland and Seattle are essentially armed insurrections, and yet they were coddled. You have prosecutors that refuse to press charges against those arrested for assault, looting and arson. The backlash against this lack of accountability is what stunted the blue wave.

You are pissed and have a right to be. I am pissed that others choose to exploit it for their own selfish gains. We are both entitled to those opinions and they are not mutually exclusive.

Think of the me too movement. Trump claimed paying off a porn star on his tax return. He was heard bragging about, "grab em by the pussy." Silence from the right. Al Franken touched a few butts during a photo op and pretended to touch a woman's chest while she was sleeping. The democrats forced him to step down sue to his actions.

Everyone who voted for Trump knew he was, so that tells you where they stand relative to the #metoo movement. There was no political peril to taking down Franken, and Franken was arguably a victim of the GOP politically weaponizing #metoo. To his credit, Franken recognized that the movement was bigger than him and chose not to defend himself, although given the inconsistency of the #metoo standard, I am sure even he questions that decision. Yes, the left took down Franken, but they’ve not consistently held to that standard. Senator Gillibrand is awfully quiet about the accusations against Governor Cuomo. The problem with a zero tolerance policy is that exceptions are inevitably made or inconsistently applied.

Face it, the right is more violent, racist and destructive because they never face consequences. No one was charged in michigan for going to the personal home of an democratically elected official making armed threats. Black people would have been shot for doing the same and you damn well know it.

Left affiliated or influenced shooters assasinated police in Texas and attempted to do so against members of Congress. The mayor of Chicago had to deploy law enforcement to protect her residence from left leaning protested. The mayor of Portland stood with protestors and the mob turned on him. And as I pointed out above, the lack of accountability for the anarchy gripping some American cities not only damaged BLM but also the outcome of this election.

You will notice that I consider BLM to be a separate entity from those engaging in arson, looting and anarchy. There have been a lot of double standards this past summer over what constitutes law and order, and what is tolerable behavior in a civil society.

This ends when each side hold their own accountable instead of pointing fingers at the other.

 

[hal2kilo]

Damn, I must have missed Fox's non-stop coverage of the Proud Boy violence. Oh, it's not Portland or Seattle. Never mind. Not seeing my ignore most concerned about street violence posting.

Nope. Just missed the responses. Key the music "So predictable.....

 

[Zorba]

They do, and there is no excuse for any side to engage in violence. Have they assaulted police and established a MAGA autonomous zone with armed sentries yet?

How quickly we forget the occupation of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge...

 

[Zorba]

How did that work out for them? Was it fascism when the federal government asserted its authority in the face of armed insurrection...nope. I have no sympathy for 2A militia libertarian types and their “grievances” against the government.

Pretty sure they all walked. It pays to be white with guns.

 

[Starbuck1975]

How quickly we forget the occupation of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge...

Haven’t forgotten at all. Was it fascism that the federal government asserted its authority and took care of that little insurrection? Nope.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Pretty sure they all walked. It pays to be white with guns.

A brief scan of the wikipedia article on the standoff would inform you otherwise. One of them was shot dead (LaVoy Finicum). 27 were arrested. Quite a few have faced a court of law for their crimes and a jury of their peers.

 

[HomerJS]

Left affiliated or influenced shooters assasinated police in Texas and attempted to do so against members of Congress.

The shooting in Texas was committed by a mentally disturbed ex-military member. Not affiliated with the left.

The reason Republicans are the Party of violence is their leader encourages, condones and supports violence. That is 50 steps beyond anything you could assign to the left.

 

[MrSquished]

Michigan Legislative buildings closed today due to credible threats of violence, we know from who https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/liv...?id=74573672&cid=social_twitter_abcn#74709020

 

[Starbuck1975]

The shooting in Texas was committed by a mentally disturbed ex-military member. Not affiliated with the left.

The reason Republicans are the Party of violence is their leader encourages, condones and supports violence. That is 50 steps beyond anything you could assign to the left.

The BLM movement is what set him in motion and why he specifically targeted police officers.

 

[HomerJS]

The BLM movement is what set him in motion and why he specifically targeted police officers.

BLM never encouraged people being shot. Republican leadership condones physical violence against others.

BTW - That military guy was a card carrying Trump supporter.

Man who shot dead Black Lives Matter protester in Austin is revealed

DailyMail.com can reveal the man who shot dead Garrrett Foster in Austin Texas is 33-year-old Daniel Perry, a U.S. Army sergeant and staunch Trump supporter.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[MrSquished]

Radical far leftists, anarchists basically, that have no allegiance to Biden or any Dems really, vandalize property like courthouses. Simple opportunists loot just to take advantage of a chaotic situation.

Trump supporters, his red meat base, like to kill or hurt people.

 

[nickqt]

Yes, there are right wing agitators who have instigated violence, that is not in dispute. However, it wasn’t right wing agitators who shot up a congressional baseball game, assaulted police in both Seattle and Portland or assaulted journalists for filming in their little autonomous zones. Those looking for violence are increasingly finding it.

Right-wing agitators MURDERED 2 POLICE.

Right-wing agitators just burned a BLM Church sign in DC, and the police just sat back and cheered.

You can continue being a fascist apologist, that's fine, we all know who you are. But if you're going to keep posting about the big bad graffiti on confederate statues, then you get to hear about the MURDERED POLICE that your team was very happy to take part in.

And if your really want to start going tit-for-tat with right-wing violence and left-wing violence, I'll leave images like this you can bask in, fascist apologist.

You want to start tallying up numbers? Let's start counting.

 

[cytg111]

See the Anne Frank thread. They award virtue signal points based on how oppressed they feel someone is. Not based on actual acts, crimes committed, etc ...

You can entirely destroy statues from our founders of Thomas Jefferson or George Washington and it's aight.... you can write in spray paint of buildings "kill all cops" and it's no big deal... But if a troll just tapes a piece of paper with a swastika on an Anne Frank statue they multiply the crime exponentially because it triggers their virtue signals.

Just think about it. Whomever the troll was literally did ZERO substantial damage to it. But for some reason they multiply it just to appeal to their base. It's pretty comical.

This moron was in the Anne Frank thread 4 posts in with a whataboutism... the very sort of whataboutism he slanders anyone and everyone of doing, if they are doing it or not.