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Made some excellent cheeseburgers last night!

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NetWareHead

THAT guy
5 ingredients: 80/20 fresh ground beef from the supermarket butcher, salt, pepper, yellow american cheese and hamburger buns. I use this patty maker: http://www.amazon.com/Acme-Internati.../dp/B001T8UCC8 Each patty weighs between 7-8 ounces. Liberal amount of salt & pepper on each surface. Plain and simple and some of the best burgers I ever made. I transferred the patties from the grill directly to the bun. 2 minutes later, I take my first bite and the bottom half of the bun is moist with delicious juices. I cook my burgers to medium so they are still slightly pink in the center and juicy as ever.

I cant stand people who need to add an egg, breadcrumbs, chopped peppers/onions, include blue cheese in the middle and a varieties of sauces mixed into the ground beef. The finished products begins to resemble a meatloaf rather than a hamburger. I'm eating a burger to taste the beef. Before I eat, I slap a little bit of mayo on the bun, add some ketchup and munch away. If fresh items like lettuce leaves, pickles, onions and tomato are available, I'll add those too but most of the time I'm satisfied with just a plain cheeseburger.

How do you guys like your burgers? Any recipes?
 
Rakehellion said:
I stopped reading there. I'll bet you use plain white bread too.
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I know. I don't know why we must pick an imitation of cheese and call it "American cheese". I used to work in a cheese plant, if anything was wrong with the product, we sent it to Kraft so their people could process it into "American cheese".
 
Pocatello said:
I know. I don't know why we must pick an imitation of cheese and call it "American cheese". I used to work in a cheese plant, if anything was wrong with the product, we sent it to Kraft so their people could process it into "American cheese".
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American cheese can not be legally sold under the name (authentic) "cheese" in the US. Instead, federal (and even some state) laws mandate that it be labeled as "processed cheese", "cheese product", "cheese food", etc. As a result, sometimes even the word "cheese" is absent, altogether, from the product's labeling in favor of, e.g., "American slices" or "American singles".
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cheese

I stopped eating/ordering this a long time ago.
 
Funny that you hate on bleu cheese in a burger, then put nauseating, American cheese-like product on it. D:

KT
 
Dirigible said:
Why the hell do you care what other people eat?
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I was at a cookout the other day and a friend of mine was quivering in anticipation about a new burger recipe he had picked up. So I said I would try it and he rattles off a laundry list of ingredients; what went into the ground beef. I was trying not to show my displeasure and tried a burger so I could be a good sport about it. I bit into it and there was no beef flavor, the inside was green from parsley and the spices he used (cumin etc...) overpowered the beef flavor entirely. I wasn't in the mood for more burgers after that and stuck to the hot dogs.

If someone tells me, hey "try this meatloaf sandwhich" then that would be more representative of what I was served and of these "complex" ground beef recipes for hamburger. IMO, hamburger should be hamburger and not much more. Thats the beauty of it. Good quality ground beef grilled over a hot flame with s&P can taste very good and not need to be dressed excessively.
 
KeithTalent said:
Funny that you hate on bleu cheese in a burger, then put nauseating, American cheese-like product on it. D:

KT
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Probably because it is mild and not as strong flavored as cheddar or other cheeses. Blue cheese is way too strong of a cheese IMO to put on a burger when I'd like the beef flavor to shine instead. I've used provolone, cheddar etc... with good results too. Funny thing is that I only tolerate american cheese on burgers but wont use it on sandwiches or anywhere else. I agree it is not the best cheese in the world, but surprisingly its good for me on a burger.

edit: plus it melts pretty well too. What cheese do you put on burgers?
 
NetWareHead said:
Probably because it is mild and not as strong flavored as cheddar or other cheeses. Blue cheese is way too strong of a cheese IMO to put on a burger when I'd like the beef flavor to shine instead. I've used provolone, cheddar etc... with good results too. Funny thing is that I only tolerate american cheese on burgers but wont use it on sandwiches or anywhere else. I agree it is not the best cheese in the world, but surprisingly its good for me on a burger.

edit: plus it melts pretty well too. What cheese do you put on burgers?
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I think bleu compliments beef quite well, especially since I usually add tomato and bacon; all of those go well together in my opinion. I like a true old, aged cheddar, or sometimes I will do a Gruyere with caramelized onions.

The key, as I see it, is not to put too much of all that stuff on as you could overwhelm the beef, but if you put on the right amount it will just enhance the beef and the overall burger.

KT
 
dbk said:
I agree..but i would add bacon too...dont you dare badmouth bacon..
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Well yes lol. I do love bacon and it makes a good addition to any burger. I know it is breaking my rule about letting the beef flavor shine through. Bacon tastes great what can I say? :biggrin: I don't need to put it on every burger I make and I can enjoy a sans-bacon burger.
 
Do you guys all add pepper to your meat as well? I stopped adding pepper to meat unless its in a marinade because of the distortion of the flavor of the beef by the burnt pepper on the grill. Adding it after seems to make it better for me?

Im probably the only ones...
 
Blue cheese accentuates the flavor of the beef just amazingly well. American cheese covers it up.

And holy shit, for someone who claims they're amazing at making burgers, you added KETCHUP? That's like rule #1 of a good burger, NEVER USE KETCHUP. You claim you eat it to taste the beef, but you just added the worst ingredient ever for that.

At the very least the added ingredients you hate accentuate flavor. Onions and stuff undergo the malliard reaction and increase the sensation of savoriness which makes the overall burger package taste better, and spices also complement beef well.

Hell I can even forgive mayo because the fat content doesn't cover up the flavors much, but ketchup is like taking a huge steaming poop on the burger.
 
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I'm with the OP on not adding a bunch of spices and crap to a burger. Salt and pepper is enough, and maybe some milk if the meat is very lean. But then you shouldn't be cooking a burger with anything leaner than 80/20 imo.
 
KeithTalent said:
I think bleu compliments beef quite well, especially since I usually add tomato and bacon; all of those go well together in my opinion. I like a true old, aged cheddar, or sometimes I will do a Gruyere with caramelized onions.

The key, as I see it, is not to put too much of all that stuff on as you could overwhelm the beef, but if you put on the right amount it will just enhance the beef and the overall burger.

KT
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bolded for emphasis. I can agree with that if goal is to add some bleu cheese tones to a burger. Most of the time, people seem to follow the rule that if something is good, then more must be better. Even though I prefer an all beef burger, a well rounded burger with careful use of additional ingredients is good too. An all beef burger is just harder to screw up due to its simplicity and usually a safer bet when ordering out.
 
NetWareHead said:
Probably because it is mild and not as strong flavored as cheddar or other cheeses. Blue cheese is way too strong of a cheese IMO to put on a burger when I'd like the beef flavor to shine instead. I've used provolone, cheddar etc... with good results too. Funny thing is that I only tolerate american cheese on burgers but wont use it on sandwiches or anywhere else. I agree it is not the best cheese in the world, but surprisingly its good for me on a burger.

edit: plus it melts pretty well too. What cheese do you put on burgers?
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That.

There is never an acceptable time/place/way to consume American cheese except on a burger. On a burger it fits.

The same is true of Cheez Whiz, it can only be used on a Philly cheese steak and nowhere else!
 
NikolaeVarius said:
And holy shit, for someone who claims they're amazing at making burgers, you added KETCHUP? That's like rule #1 of a good burger, NEVER USE KETCHUP. You claim you eat it to taste the beef, but you just added the worst ingredient ever for that.

At the very least the added ingredients you hate accentuate flavor. Onions and stuff undergo the malliard reaction and increase the sensation of savoriness which makes the overall burger package taste better, and spices also complement beef well.

Hell I can even forgive mayo because the fat content doesn't cover up the flavors much, but ketchup is like taking a huge steaming poop on the burger.
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First time I ever heard arguing against ketchup. Ketchup and burgers go hand in hand. My GF likes to use ketchup and mustard and it doesnt appeal to me.
 
NetWareHead said:
First time I ever heard arguing against ketchup. Ketchup and burgers go hand in hand. My GF likes to use ketchup and mustard and it doesnt appeal to me.
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No they don't go together. Ketchup is used for bad frozen burgers because the strong vinegar taste covers up the taste of everthing.

For a GOOD burger, ketchup is like steak sauce on a steak, a giant "fuck you" to the cook. It doesn't accentuate anything, it merely covers up every single flavor. You're not tasting beef, you're tasting vinegar with hints of beef.

If you want a tomato flavor, use fresh tomatoes, but ketchup is just... no. Not on a good burger.
 
NikolaeVarius said:
No they don't go together. Ketchup is used for bad frozen burgers because the strong vinegar taste covers up the taste of everthing.

For a GOOD burger, ketchup is like steak sauce on a steak, a giant "fuck you" to the cook. It doesn't accentuate anything, it merely covers up every single flavor. You're not tasting beef, you're tasting vinegar with hints of beef.
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Yep. Ketchup is pure D:

KT
 
NetWareHead said:
First time I ever heard arguing against ketchup. Ketchup and burgers go hand in hand. My GF likes to use ketchup and mustard and it doesnt appeal to me.
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This it ATOT. Someone on here will always hate something. No matter what the something is.
 
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