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Madden 2008 to run at 60fps on 360, 30fps on PS3
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DaveSimmons
Elite Member
Right, optimizing an existing and working set of code is a lot easier than starting from scratch.
It does prove that the PS3 isn't any easier to code for or significantly more powerful, since year 1 is the same 30fps as the 360.
It does prove that the PS3 isn't any easier to code for or significantly more powerful, since year 1 is the same 30fps as the 360.
shortylickens
No Lifer
Not to be a hater or anything but last I checked even most of the high end TV's out there still only displayed a max of 30 fps.
DaveSimmons
Elite Member
Old tube TVs that only accept 480i maybe, but all the HDTVs accept 720p or 1080p, both 60fps.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: mlm
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Knobjockey
Doesn't the graphics card in the PS3 limit it from surpassing the Xbox 360 in terms of graphics?</end quote></div>
The Cell can apparently compensate for the difference. It's just harder to implement.</end quote></div>
Except it can't because Sony didn't allow them to share memory or the same bus. So they can't have them both do graphics processing without insanely tough coding. Had they done it it would of been awesome imo. I find this incredibly sad that they won't do 60fps on the PS3 when they said all games will be 60fps @ 1080p. To the people saying the PS3 hasn't been out as long. Game houses have been developing on the system since before the 360 was even released to the public. The released final beta kits to all dev houses shortly after MS did for the 360.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Knobjockey
Doesn't the graphics card in the PS3 limit it from surpassing the Xbox 360 in terms of graphics?</end quote></div>
The Cell can apparently compensate for the difference. It's just harder to implement.</end quote></div>
Except it can't because Sony didn't allow them to share memory or the same bus. So they can't have them both do graphics processing without insanely tough coding. Had they done it it would of been awesome imo. I find this incredibly sad that they won't do 60fps on the PS3 when they said all games will be 60fps @ 1080p. To the people saying the PS3 hasn't been out as long. Game houses have been developing on the system since before the 360 was even released to the public. The released final beta kits to all dev houses shortly after MS did for the 360.
According to a developer on Beyond3D (he didn't say for which game, but it's a sports game), it's only relatively recently that 3rd parties have gotten the needed support from Sony. The support is there now, but games that were already deep in development (like Madden) had to take a hit.
destrekor
Lifer
Sony recently began giving developers tools to help developers, or at least they are planning on launching those tools very soon.
As far as framerate, it is not a technical hindrance of the console, rather the inability of the developer to add the manpower to do so. They need to get used to coding for the system. Other developers are having no problem achieving what they want to in regards to game development. EA and Ubisoft have been struggling to do any good for the PS3 as of recently, with it taking Ubisoft forever to finally release R6:V for the PS3. talk about developer deficiency.
As far as framerate, it is not a technical hindrance of the console, rather the inability of the developer to add the manpower to do so. They need to get used to coding for the system. Other developers are having no problem achieving what they want to in regards to game development. EA and Ubisoft have been struggling to do any good for the PS3 as of recently, with it taking Ubisoft forever to finally release R6:V for the PS3. talk about developer deficiency.
They might of just helped them in terms of better developement tools, but dev houses have had final dev kits to develope on just as long as they have had 360 ones. The only reason there would be slack is all on Sony's part not the dev houses. Sony is failing hard and losing hard selling a 3rd of the consoles the Wii is every month at a loss.
Perhaps when the install base is large enough to make it more profitable, and the aforementioned tools to ease development are employed? Seems the quality of games ported to both 360&PS3, is finding the PS3 taking the backseat, at least for now, the way the xbox did last gen.
You just basically restated the reasons I suggested as a answer to the quote, as answer to me? 😕 "hardest to program for, and the most expensive to program for" From reading what software devs have to say, hardest to program for=most tiome consuming, and therefore, most expensive, so that remark seems a bit redundant? :tongue;
The install base is the big issue, they have to get enough consoles out there to make it an attractive market, or the 2nd rate ports will probably continue, just as with the xbox.
That does seem to be the catch-22, and the price, current small game library, and dirth of exclusive "must have" titles, to this point all seem to add up to the poor sales we have seen thus far.
I don't feel that way though; The quality Blu-Ray player is the killer app attracting me. Allowing the use of 3rd party HDDs, being able to use some Linux distros, correction of *what I felt* were serious issues that initially plagued it, the inclusion of wifi, HDMI, God of War 3, and being able to play GoW 1&2 on it, are the clinchers for myself. If I get from Target, I'll save $60 and qualify for the 5 free BD movies too. I may have just talked myself into picking one up today 😀
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