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TheStu

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I think that the processors are 800FSB, but the chipset is still only 667, weird huh?
 

ryema22

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Originally posted by: secretanchitman
Originally posted by: Ichigo
Originally posted by: ryema22
Originally posted by: Kaido
Santa Rosa is just a newer dual core processor...Core Duo, Core 2 Duo, now Santa Rosa. Meh.

This is incorrect. Santa Rosa is the name of an overall mobile platform, not a processor. The processor is still part of the Core 2 family. The Santa Rosa refresh includes an update to the Penryn-family 45nm processors and a switch to the X3100 graphics chipset. The smaller 45nm architecture of the new Penryn chips means faster speeds are possible while using less power and generating less heat. Better than just "meh" for a mobile application.

False.

santa rose continues to use the 65nm c2ds...they just have ddr2-800 support. and even still, macbook pro can only use ddr2-667 memory for some reason, even though the bus supports ddr2-800.


My mistake on that part, I thought the penryn chips were due out in early November, but it looks like I was a bit premature on that statement... when are they expected to make it into notebooks?
 

TheStu

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Originally posted by: ryema22
Originally posted by: secretanchitman
Originally posted by: Ichigo
Originally posted by: ryema22
Originally posted by: Kaido
Santa Rosa is just a newer dual core processor...Core Duo, Core 2 Duo, now Santa Rosa. Meh.

This is incorrect. Santa Rosa is the name of an overall mobile platform, not a processor. The processor is still part of the Core 2 family. The Santa Rosa refresh includes an update to the Penryn-family 45nm processors and a switch to the X3100 graphics chipset. The smaller 45nm architecture of the new Penryn chips means faster speeds are possible while using less power and generating less heat. Better than just "meh" for a mobile application.

False.

santa rose continues to use the 65nm c2ds...they just have ddr2-800 support. and even still, macbook pro can only use ddr2-667 memory for some reason, even though the bus supports ddr2-800.


My mistake on that part, I thought the penryn chips were due out in early November, but it looks like I was a bit premature on that statement... when are they expected to make it into notebooks?

Sometime in 08 from last I heard. I thought only the new Xeons were out in November, and the rest of the 45nm chips wouldn't be out till next year.
 

Tegeril

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AHHH. Ok. Time to stop this unknowledge right now. Santa Rosa is a combination of chips, including the Northbridge, the CPU, and the WIRELESS CHIP. Apple does not use Intel's wireless chip and instead uses an Atheros device. The computer is not Santa Rosa if it doesn't include that Intel wifi chip.
 

TheStu

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I thought that it simply wasn't Centrino if it didn't use the intel wireless chip.
 

Tegeril

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Originally posted by: TheStu
I thought that it simply wasn't Centrino if it didn't use the intel wireless chip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino

Santa Rosa platform (2007)

The code-name Santa Rosa refers to the fourth-generation Centrino platform, which was released on Wednesday 9 May 2007.

The Santa Rosa platform consists of:

* Processors - Socket P
o an Intel Core 2 Duo (code-named Merom) second generation processor with 800 MT/s FSB, or
o an Intel Core 2 Duo (code-named Penryn) 45nm processor scheduled for release in November 2007 [1] for Santa Rosa Refresh platform.
* an Intel Mobile 965 Express chipset (code-named Crestline) with Intel's GMA X3100 graphics technology and ICH8M southbridge, 800 MT/s front side bus with Dynamic Front Side Bus Switching to save power during low utilization, and
o Intel Dynamic Acceleration (IDA), better Windows Vista Aero support. [2]
o RAM supported for DDR2-533 and DDR2-667 SO-DIMM.
o EFI-compliant firmware, a successor to BIOS.
o optional NAND flash-memory caching branded as Intel Turbo Memory (code-named Robson)
* the Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN (a/b/g/draft-n) mini-PCIe Wi-Fi adapter (code-named Kedron).
o Wireless-N technology boasts a 5X speed increase, along with a 2X greater coverage area, and supports 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz signal bands, with enough bandwidth for high definition audio and video streams.
 

TheStu

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Ah, there was my confusion then. My understanding was that Santa Rosa was just the codename for the chipset, and Centrino was still there as the suite. I didn't realize they were one and the same.

My Bad :)
 

KingTech

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Oh thank you so much man for clearing me about all this.Now my mind is totally cleared thanks to you that "Santa Rosa" is the next chip of Intel Processors after Core 2 Duo.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: KingTech
Oh thank you so much man for clearing me about all this.Now my mind is totally cleared thanks to you that "Santa Rosa" is the next chip of Intel Processors after Core 2 Duo.

I think you're still confused.
 

secretanchitman

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Originally posted by: KingTech
Oh thank you so much man for clearing me about all this.Now my mind is totally cleared thanks to you that "Santa Rosa" is the next chip of Intel Processors after Core 2 Duo.

santa rosa is a platform...not a chip. core 2 duo is a cpu, not a platform.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: AnthroAndStargate
Wait, so this means I should wait till Novemebr of 08 to buy a Mac Book or Mac Book Pro? UGH.

This was posted for November 2007, not November 2008 ;)
 

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Originally posted by: secretanchitman
Originally posted by: KingTech
Oh thank you so much man for clearing me about all this.Now my mind is totally cleared thanks to you that "Santa Rosa" is the next chip of Intel Processors after Core 2 Duo.

santa rosa is a platform...not a chip. core 2 duo is a cpu, not a platform.

You bumped a month-old thread to state this?