Mac vs. Windows

[Childs]

Originally posted by: blackinches

Originally posted by: Childs

Originally posted by: blackinches
blackinches wants to know why do you need another computer? blackinches think it seems like the one in your sig is pretty nice.

blackinches wants to know why do you have a system that nice if you don't care about gaming?

You forgot to talk in the third person.

blackinches did not forget. the question did not warrant blackinches to refer to himself.

You missed several opportunities, check above. You're not a true third person referrer.

 

[TheGeek]

Originally posted by: Ken90630

The main reason I'm responding here is to answer this statement. You are absolutely right. My bad. However, if this guy has the computer he says he has in his sig, I'll buy you a dual-processor G5 and a Cinema Display if it has anything less than a 7200-rpm hard drive. I assumed, and I'll bet you the aforementioned equipment that I assumed correctly. 😀

My PC has a 4200RPM Drive. I find it to be quite speedy. If I was to start Photoshop now, it might accually start before I get my Mac Mini.

Another reason I want a Mac is due to hardware incompatibility/suckiness: pancakes...

 

[hopejr]

TheGeek, Your dad has the same misconception about macs that many people have. They are going increasingly popular in development and sys admin fields. They aren't the artsy type as much anymore (as many people say that Photoshop is faster on Windows, I don't really care, because I hardly ever use it). Again, with the PS argument, most of the ppl I know with PS have got it illegally anyway, so don't actually buy it.
Macs are nice, I love mine, and want to eventually replace my PC's with them (I will need to keep one PC though for my web development and testing on Windows based browsers).

 

[TheGeek]

Damnit!!! My dad still wont let me buy one. He asked what I'm going to do with it seens as you cant game on it.

 

[greergirl]

Good old American consumer whore culture...makes the world go 'round.

 

[Alex]

your dad is right save your money!

 

[TheGeek]

I got to thinking, should I sell my current PC and buy a new PowerBook? The only reason why I would keep my Windows PC is for gaming, but it's not that important. Are there any other capibilities I would lose by eliminating my PC? Any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

 

[halfadder]

Originally posted by: TheGeek
I got to thinking, should I sell my current PC and buy a new PowerBook? The only reason why I would keep my Windows PC is for gaming, but it's not that important. Are there any other capibilities I would lose by eliminating my PC? Any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

Aside from gaming? Probably not.

BUT.

BUT...

As much as I love my PowerBook, I would never give up my PCs. I like them too much to go pure-Mac. And I like my PowerBook too much to ever got pure-PC again.

 

[hopejr]

I reckon it wouldn't be bad if you went all mac. I'm going to this year. Or if you just bought a PB now, you could get another PC further down the track if you wanted to.

 

[ribbon13]

I've always been partial to Apple notebooks, and custom PCs. Must be like the natural order or something, just the way it's meant to be.

 

[bjc112]

OSX + iLife are a nice thing to have bundled.

 

[halfadder]

Originally posted by: bjc112
OSX + iLife are a nice thing to have bundled.

It's not just iLife (iMovie, iDVD, Garage Band, iPhoto, iTunes), there is usually more software bundled too. My Mac Mini also came with Quicken 2005 (probably at least a $30 value) and AppleWorks (probably at least a $30 value). The 3D marble rolling game probably isn't worth much, but the Nanosaur 2 game is a $25 value.

Those sorts of values start to add up, especially when the whole machine is only $479 (student price) to begin with.

 

[drag]

Also OS X has the ability to run Xserver as a add-on package from it's second or third install CD.

It also includes developement tools, so that you can install something like Fink or Gentoo's port of Portage to OS X in order to use intellegent package handling software to install a wide veriaty of open source software and run it on OS X.

With that and OS X's natural user-friendliness combined with easy accessable F/OSS software I feel that makes a OS X a superior OS to Windows.. Generally.

Although I do own a Apple ibook I prefer Linux on PPC and x86 over OS X, but that's just me. If my ibook didn't have good video support (like If I had a PowerBook instead of a Ibook) I would rather run OS X, probably. (but I wouldn't of bought it in the first place actually. I'd get one of those big desktop replacement style laptops that have very good Linux support.. some do, some don't.)


edit:

I read your original post and see what your dealing with. So I'll give you real advice:
1. you can get a PC that is much faster for about the same price. If you don't buy Windows you can get a very nice machine for about the same price
2. if you buy it, don't waste your credit card on it. Save up for it, it's a luxury and if you pay for it with a credit card you'll buy it from Apple for 600 dollars, however in total you'll end up paying the credit card company 800 dollars for it by the time you finish paying it off. You can afford much nicer stuff if you save up for it. (pay yourself (or in other words put the money aside) like you would of paid the credit card company, and you'll have more then enough money in a short time)


This machine is a toy. If your interested in computer science and programming OS X can be very interesting, but for the most part this is a computer that you don't need. Not that it's not nice, but keep that in mind when it comes to spending money. Now if you had 500-700 bucks laying around burning a hole in your pocket, then I would tell you that it would be a fun thing to fool around with.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: TheGeek
I told my dad I was thinking about buying a Mac Mini and he laughed at me and said that Macs are only good for artsy stuff (movies, pictures, etc.) and iPods. Being under 18, I need his credit card to buy it, but he said that he wont let me "waste my money. I am trying to build up a case for Macs so he'll let me buy one. So, what are the advantages/disadvantages of a Mac/OS X vs. Windows XP/a Windows PC, not counting gaming?

It's a more intuitive OS. Hardware-wise, there's no advantage, except for their industrial design, which is second to none.

 

[ribbon13]

second to none???
If by industrial you mean computing power per square inch, your sorely wrong
If by industrial you mean the quality of the PCBs, your sorely wrong
If by industrial you mean the stability of the system/os, you are wrong.
If by industrial you mean the chassis, I'll laugh until I pass out.

Macs are great, but they're anything but second to none.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Macs are great. I use a powerbook for a lot of day to day stuff. The size and power savings of a mac mini alone make it worthwhile to me.

 

[omissible]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
second to none???
If by industrial you mean computing power per square inch, your sorely wrong
>> Probably so.

If by industrial you mean the quality of the PCBs, your sorely wrong
>> http://www.pcmag.com/image_pop...s=400&iid=84013,00.asp

If by industrial you mean the stability of the system/os, you are wrong.
>> http://www.pcmag.com/image_pop...s=400&iid=84022,00.asp

If by industrial you mean the chassis, I'll laugh until I pass out.
>> http://www.pcmag.com/image_pop...s=400&iid=84674,00.asp

Macs are great, but they're anything but second to none.

>> It would seem some people disagree. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Ken90630]

Originally posted by: greergirl
Good old American consumer whore culture...makes the world go 'round.

Take your anti-American propaganda and lies and post them where they belong -- in the Politics and News forum. It's inappropriate to post them here in the Operating Systems folder.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: Terumo

Originally posted by: TheGeek
I told my dad I was thinking about buying a Mac Mini and he laughed at me and said that Macs are only good for artsy stuff (movies, pictures, etc.) and iPods. Being under 18, I need his credit card to buy it, but he said that he wont let me "waste my money. I am trying to build up a case for Macs so he'll let me buy one. So, what are the advantages/disadvantages of a Mac/OS X vs. Windows XP/a Windows PC, not counting gaming?

Software alone is the most major disadvantage (same can be said of *nix OS). If it's not released for MACs, it's released like 6 months later, you'll play second fiddle to the leader --PC/Windows. 😛

<donning Nomex>

Mac not MAC. MAC=Media Access Control. Small but important point.

 

[gwag]

Go for it X simply rules, You can use it to learn linux apart from gaming there is little that cannot be done on a mac and most things are more easily done on a mac.
good one if you haven't read it= http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2232
if you find its not your thing (unlikely) sell it you can probablysell it on Ebay for 95-110% of what you paid for it. macs hold ther value way better than PCs.

 

[Infohawk]

Can you make up some stuff about wanting to learn some unix-based stuff?

Infohawk thinks the blackinches phenomenon is great.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
second to none???
If by industrial you mean computing power per square inch, your sorely wrong
If by industrial you mean the quality of the PCBs, your sorely wrong
If by industrial you mean the stability of the system/os, you are wrong.
If by industrial you mean the chassis, I'll laugh until I pass out.

Macs are great, but they're anything but second to none.

I'm referring mainly to chassis design, peripheral design. Anyone with any knowledge of what constitutes good design precepts will probably agree.
That is all.

 

[jspsh]

is there even anyway to spawn an unix shell in OS X? i was playing with those powerbooks at compusa and had a lot of trouble finding somewhere to run commands

 

[rmrf]

yeah, it's kind of buried in there though, at least from what I remember, that was over a year ago though.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

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