Mac vs. PC Digital Video Comparison: Mac gets slaughtered.

[Lonyo]

But what about screen size/video quality. It's all very well saying you can do all this photoshop crap really quickly, but how big is the Dell's monitor and how clear is the visual quality, and how easy it it to actually use the programs on the machines. It's not all about how fast the computer performs, but how WELL overall, and speed is not the only compnent in overall quality.

 

[iamme]

But you can save Christmas with a Mac!

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: McPhreak
I like macs for their simplicity. You could call it form over function in that you don't have all this crap spread out over your HD (why can't I simply delete a folder to remove an app? <--rhetorical question. Please don't answer) and in your apps (The Aqua interface is SO clean and streamlined). I don't have time at work to fvck around with my computer like I do at home (I run a PC at home). It's just less hassle for me to run on a mac at work.

I don't mind macs. I'd probably get one if it was cheap enough, just a few personal niggles I don't like.

I agree the inteface is much more steamlined and slick. I'd prefer that. The look of, the functional side would be the same. I find win2k simple and easy to use. But sourly plain to look at though. Too much monotone grey...

But I don't see how the inteface causes much hassle in my apps I use. They are the same in the apps, just have different names and layouts. What do you do at work?

btw read that article a few weeks ago....

First I've seen around here I think......

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: hdeck
i think people on this board get off to MACs performing slower than PCs

Not quite - it's just funny to see Macs fail miserably at what they're supposed to be the best with Not only will a PC kill it performance-wise, but they're just so much damn cheaper

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
But what about screen size/video quality. It's all very well saying you can do all this photoshop crap really quickly, but how big is the Dell's monitor and how clear is the visual quality, and how easy it it to actually use the programs on the machines. It's not all about how fast the computer performs, but how WELL overall, and speed is not the only compnent in overall quality.

in the programs the intefaces are generally very similar if not the same. A few differences but that normally changes from each program version that is released anyway.

Not sure about the quality of Dell monitors (usually the flat ones use Sony FD screens, or rebaged Sony monitors) but I only have the top end monitors. Can't stand anything else. Has to be a flat crt with a high res it can do when I need to change to that res. You can always buy a new monitor. I think if your spending the amounts of money for these machines you can spre £1k on a top end monitor, or you probably have one anyway. Most of the monitors that company include with the computers are cack anyway, unless you upgrade it to a higher spec one. But usually most buyers will already have an existing monitor to use from...

Koing <-- Love to have a mac cube, looks great but have a hard job craming in pc components!

 

[Lonyo]

I only use PC's and have a lovely 19" Dell monitor sat in front of me. I reckon Dell stuff does whoop ass. That might be one reason their P4 system was so much better. Get another comapny to make a P4 and compare it to a Mac and see the difference

 

[McPhreak]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: McPhreak
I like macs for their simplicity. You could call it form over function in that you don't have all this crap spread out over your HD (why can't I simply delete a folder to remove an app? <--rhetorical question. Please don't answer) and in your apps (The Aqua interface is SO clean and streamlined). I don't have time at work to fvck around with my computer like I do at home (I run a PC at home). It's just less hassle for me to run on a mac at work.

I don't mind macs. I'd probably get one if it was cheap enough, just a few personal niggles I don't like.

I agree the inteface is much more steamlined and slick. I'd prefer that. The look of, the functional side would be the same. I find win2k simple and easy to use. But sourly plain to look at though. Too much monotone grey...

But I don't see how the inteface causes much hassle in my apps I use. They are the same in the apps, just have different names and layouts. What do you do at work?

btw read that article a few weeks ago....

First I've seen around here I think......

Between say microsoft word for mac and PC, the stuff is the same except the the layout on the Mac one blows the PC one out of the water.

But in between programs such as Fetch for Mac and CuteFTP or BulletproofFTP or whateverFTP for PC, the Mac progs are usually much less complicated. There's a box for putting in the IP, password and directory and a big connect button. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Although there's less functionality in Fetch, I don't need that added functionality. I just need to pull a file off someone's computer for God's sake. The added functionality just makes finding things you actually need that much harder.

And the best thing is, since it's a work computer, I didn't have to pay for it. (One of the reasons why I run a PC at home)

BTW, I'm a molecular/cell/neurobiologist. I use it mainly to take take pics on my microscope and photoshop and connect my iPod to and such.

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: hdeck
i think people on this board get off to MACs performing slower than PCs

Not quite - it's just funny to see Macs fail miserably at what they're supposed to be the best with Not only will a PC kill it performance-wise, but they're just so much damn cheaper

Dual 1.25 vs. P4 3.06 HT

Basically, the 1.25 GHz dual G4 PowerMac is slower than most high end PCs (including single-processor ones), but it is not totally defenseless. In multi-threaded content creation applications, it can perform like a 2.2 GHz Pentium 4 and even a 3.06 GHz one. Considering that Content Creation is still the main reason why people buy Macs, this isn't bad at all. And while it may seem trivial to some, it must be said that the Apple PowerMac does feature a very nice system chassis that provides easy access to components.

 

[lowtech1]

Originally posted by: McPhreak
I like macs for their simplicity. You could call it form over function in that you don't have all this crap spread out over your HD (why can't I simply delete a folder to remove an app? <--rhetorical question. Please don't answer) and in your apps (The Aqua interface is SO clean and streamlined). I don't have time at work to fvck around with my computer like I do at home (I run a PC at home). It's just less hassle for me to run on a mac at work.

Funny that you say that. I was at a Mac shop yesterday waiting for my friend who's work there & I'm sure that he was embarrassed when one of his customer who recently move from a x86 desktop to a Mac laptop ask for a virtual PC demo (PC emulation program). Because his cad program doesn't come in a Mac flavor, and he need it for his engineering class.

I wanted to ask my friend why buy a Mac (obsolete hardware) then emulate it at 1/2 or 1/3 speed, but wasn't heartless enought to do so.

Pd. Did you read the review?

- Of course, Mac stalwarts will cling to the notion that Mac OS X is so much better and easier to use than Windows XP, but if you?re spending all day inside After Effects, which operating system you?re using makes little difference. What does make a huge difference is if you have to sit and wait for rendering any longer than necessary. And, according to our benchmarks here, if you have an After Effects composite that needs, say, two hours to render on the Mac, it?ll take you about an hour and 10 minutes on this PC. So, in addition to the extra $629 you must pay for the Mac, it will cost you plenty of time as well, especially while using After Effects. Time is money. After looking at these startling benchmark results, we have to gaze over at our beautifully-designed Macs and ask, "Is it worth it?"

 

[Ornery]

Beautifully-designed Macs

You know, I'm convinced this IS what it's all about. I've yet to see that list that supports "their value". I think that's going to be about the only point on the list anyway, and that's pretty damn ghey*!

*effeminate

• 1 : having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner
  2 : marked by an unbecoming delicacy or overrefinement <effeminate art> <an effeminate civilization>

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Beautifully-designed Macs

You know, I'm convinced this IS what it's all about. I've yet to see that list that supports "their value". I think that's going to be about the only point on the list anyway, and that's pretty damn ghey!

Here here!!

 

[McPhreak]

Originally posted by: lowtech

Originally posted by: McPhreak
I like macs for their simplicity. You could call it form over function in that you don't have all this crap spread out over your HD (why can't I simply delete a folder to remove an app? <--rhetorical question. Please don't answer) and in your apps (The Aqua interface is SO clean and streamlined). I don't have time at work to fvck around with my computer like I do at home (I run a PC at home). It's just less hassle for me to run on a mac at work.

Funny that you say that. I was at a Mac shop yesterday waiting for my friend who's work there & I'm sure that he was embarrassed when one of his customer who recently move from a x86 desktop to a Mac laptop ask for a virtual PC demo (PC emulation program). Because his cad program doesn't come in a Mac flavor, and he need it for his engineering class.

I wanted to ask my friend why buy a Mac (obsolete hardware) then emulate it at 1/2 or 1/3 speed, but wasn't heartless enought to do so.

Pd. Did you read the review?

- Of course, Mac stalwarts will cling to the notion that Mac OS X is so much better and easier to use than Windows XP, but if you?re spending all day inside After Effects, which operating system you?re using makes little difference. What does make a huge difference is if you have to sit and wait for rendering any longer than necessary. And, according to our benchmarks here, if you have an After Effects composite that needs, say, two hours to render on the Mac, it?ll take you about an hour and 10 minutes on this PC. So, in addition to the extra $629 you must pay for the Mac, it will cost you plenty of time as well, especially while using After Effects. Time is money. After looking at these startling benchmark results, we have to gaze over at our beautifully-designed Macs and ask, "Is it worth it?"

I'm not an engineer or graphic designer or anything like that so i don't use CAD or After Effects or XFree86 or whatnot so I will still "cling to the notion" that Macs are more simplistic in their interface and hence easier to use. I use special capturing software (OpenLab) to take digital pics of my cells and Photoshop to manipulate them. Although I can imagine that engineers and the like love to take advantage of all the great features PC software provides, for someone like me that needs things done quickly and efficiently when at work, I only want the features that I actually use present, and I think Mac software tailors to that very well.

Use whats best for you. For me, it's a PC at home, Mac at work.

 

[Supahfreak]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Beautifully-designed Macs

You know, I'm convinced this IS what it's all about. I've yet to see that list that supports "their value". I think that's going to be about the only point on the list anyway, and that's pretty damn ghey*!

*effeminate

• 1 : having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner
  2 : marked by an unbecoming delicacy or overrefinement <effeminate art> <an effeminate civilization>

How can a inanimate object be ghey?

FreAk

 

[brtspears2]

If it wasnt for apple's high prices and its want back in the day to keep their MacOS exclusive, we might be all running MacOS/Apple hardware right now...

But price/performance , hard to beat a PC. But macs have much character though...

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: Supahfreak

Originally posted by: Ornery
Beautifully-designed Macs

You know, I'm convinced this IS what it's all about. I've yet to see that list that supports "their value". I think that's going to be about the only point on the list anyway, and that's pretty damn ghey*!

*effeminate

• 1 : having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner
  2 : marked by an unbecoming delicacy or overrefinement <effeminate art> <an effeminate civilization>

How can a inanimate object be ghey?

FreAk

Paying a LOT more money for a tool, such as a PC, because it's "Beautifully-designed" is a ghey thing to do! Making a PC "pretty" in the first place is ghey! Sort of like a toaster cozy! :disgust:

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: MoFunk
OH OH. Mac vs. PC. Are there going to be any "switchers" speak up?

I switched in April and I couldn't be happier (well, switched is the wrong term.. more like went "bi" since I use both platforms). No more annoying Premiere and SonicDVDit! Instead of of getting pissed off by the inherent instability and work flow issuses that exist in PC-based NLEs I bought FCP, a dual gig G4 and I've been lovin' my editing life ever since.

Given the choice, I'd never cut on a PC again.

Lethal