Mac vs PC argument

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poofyhairguy

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I don't think a Chromebook is powerful enough for some users though. I sometimes have up to 10 tabs open at a time on google chrome, so I always go for a top end i7 (just short of the extremes) and 16gb of memory.

The iPad Air 2 can handle up to 10-15 tabs in Google Chrome before you go past the 2GB of memory. You don't need a monster machine for ten tabs.
 

ninaholic37

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I remember when internet browsers didn't even have tabs. Don't remember ever having a problem with it.
 

solidstar

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I've always used PC even if I know that Apple is a good and solid brand. I'm just so used t it that I don't think I'll like any change.
 

destrekor

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I don't think a Chromebook is powerful enough for some users though. I sometimes have up to 10 tabs open at a time on google chrome, so I always go for a top end i7 (just short of the extremes) and 16gb of memory.

It's hilarious that you think "10 tabs" requires an i7 and 16 gb of RAM.

The iPad Air 2 can handle up to 10-15 tabs in Google Chrome before you go past the 2GB of memory. You don't need a monster machine for ten tabs.

On second thought, I think we've been had.
 

poofyhairguy

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I remember when internet browsers didn't even have tabs. Don't remember ever having a problem with it.

When Opera added in tabs it was like my life entered a new phase. I care more about tabs than I do some friends, or any sort of religious concept.
 

destrekor

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take this easy questionnaire to find out if you are a PC person or a Mac person:

question 1: do you think that a Mac is a good computer?
Yes: Congratulations! You are a Mac person and should buy a Mac as soon as possible.
No: Damn. You are a PC person and should build yourself a PC; when you got time.

Why does it have to be so binary?

I own both. I build PCs and now own an MBP.

I also put OS X on said PC that I built. So you don't even need to buy them, though there's that pesky EULA thing.

I find the MBP to be an exceptional product.
And I like both operating systems. Who knew that was possible?

I was drawn to OS X for the display color management. Far superior to Windows. And then I stuck to it because it's good to have a Unix-like OS to do things on, plus the OS X community is filled with creative types who focus on creative-type development.
 

BurnItDwn

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Seems to me like you'd never want to pay a price premium an always buy slightly dinged goods.

No, I often buy brand new components. Its a measure of value for the dollar. Yes, I consider the "dingged" goods often, but I can afford to go with whatever option I believe is the best over the long run.

OEM computers in general, and laptops especially are bad long term buys.

ATX full tower case, nice beefy 80+ gold or silver 600+ watt power supply, nice midrange motherboard with all the ports I need, and a handful of extra SATA and ideally at least 1 or 2 legacy PCI ports, and then a nice CPU, and an SSD and I am a happy man.

If after 2 years I want to upgrade the CPU, so be it. If after 3 years I want to upgrade the GPU, so be it. And if after 7 or 8 years, I want to stick a new mobo in there, I can do that too ....

Anyhow, apple does not make any products that appeal to me.
Their phones still do not have removable/replaceable batteries and external storage capacity.
Their laptops are not desktops
their desktops are proprietary, you have very limited configuration options
and in general, their products cost more money while generally performing mediocre
 

poofyhairguy

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I also put OS X on said PC that I built. So you don't even need to buy them

To be fair hackintoshing is the only way to really get value out of the Mac desktop space.

My "primary" do stuff desktop at home is a hackintosh that I built when the Mac Pro first came out. That hackintosh runs the newest version of the OS, while a Mac Pro (which cost like twice as much as my desktop at the time) can't. It is amazing.
 

poofyhairguy

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I hate tabs. I open everything in a new window.

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Nebor

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The iPad Air 2 can handle up to 10-15 tabs in Google Chrome before you go past the 2GB of memory. You don't need a monster machine for ten tabs.

I have an iPad Air 2 and it struggles to render this forum when I'm scrolling down and I have even 2 tabs open.

My new PC parts should be here Friday. I ordered the 5930k instead of the 5820k so that hopefully I won't experience the same thing on my PC.

EDIT: I use Safari on my iPad & iPhone. I tried to get it for my Windows PC (I like the bookmark syncing) but it's been discontinued. I had upgraded to Windows 10 on my last desktop before it died a couple weeks ago, and I was satisfied with Internet Explorer Edge so much that I hadn't even downloaded Chrome.
 
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Nebor

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10 Tabs? GASP

I wonder what you think of the 30-50+ I often have open. :D

I assume that when people are running those distributed computing apps (Prime95, SETI, etc.) that that processing power is going towards running instances like that.
 

poofyhairguy

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It's a lot more convenient to be able to see the content of your windows. Tabs are annoying.

I average around 25-ish tabs on my desktop within 30 minutes of use.

In your usage case the task manager would be overloaded. Even with OSX's Mission Control it would be a mess.

Each to their own I guess.
 

poofyhairguy

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I have an iPad Air 2 and it struggles to render this forum when I'm scrolling down and I have even 2 tabs open.

The initial rendering is determined by the power of the CPU (normally it's best two cores). Once it is loaded though the RAM determines if you have to reload. Of course there are exceptions, for this forum it takes forever to load because the damn ads come from an external site that is run by a hamster wheel (my guess)- your CPU can't make the hamster run faster.

I mean you are correct that more CPU power makes for a better web experience. I think adblocking on Pentium would give you what you get without ad blocking on a i7 though, most of the CPU cycles are for ads.
 

Red Squirrel

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Mac does make good quality products, I just hate the idea that they are so closed. Windows is not any better but at least the hardware it runs on is more open and you can put Linux on it. That and most stuff runs in Windows, while with Mac most things wont, so may as well just run Linux if you're going to restrict what programs you can run, but at least you remain in an open platform.