Mac Pro - Octo cores released

[Kaido]

Yummy

 

[randomlinh]

isn't it 8 cores@ 3ghz only? everything else is quad core total still

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: randomlinh
isn't it 8 cores@ 3ghz only? everything else is quad core total still

Nope:

Get 8-core power from two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon ?Clovertown? processors, or enjoy quad-core performance with two Dual-Core Intel Xeon ?Woodcrest? processors, available in speeds up to 3.0GHz.

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

DAAAAAAAAAAAMN, that would go nice with my Macbook.

 

[Rubycon]

It's dual socket 771. Four cores per socket. No big deal.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: Rubycon
It's dual socket 771. Four cores per socket. No big deal.

8 cores @ 3ghz is no big deal?? :Q

 

[Kaido]

My dream box, just a hair over $15k:

Mac Pro: $6000
Two 3ghz Quad-core processors
1gb ram (swap out)
250gb 7200rpm hard drive (swap out)
Quadro FX 4500 512mb video card
One 16x SuperDrive
Bluetooth+EDR & Airport Extreme
AppleCare

OWC Netlist 16gb certified ram: $2,125.00
Hitachi 1tb hard drives: $400 each (4 x $400 = $1600)
Apple 30" LCD monitors: $1800 each (3 x $1800 = $5400)

I wonder how much I could get if I sold my car...

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Rubycon
It's dual socket 771. Four cores per socket. No big deal.

8 cores @ 3ghz is no big deal?? :Q

Frankly I'm not impressed - I wish more work could be done PER core. Most of the time an 8-way system is going to be crunching away at ~12% when one process is working. For most people buying that machine would be like buying a 10 ton truck for grocery shopping. But then again in the 'States, they have Hummers. :laugh:

For the few processes that can use all 8 cores simultaneously, of course the throughput will be outrageous. It's quite expensive too. I don't know what the Mac's run but the Dell 690's maxed out cost well over $10k and that's with no serious storage options. :Q Single SATA drive on a system like that is a big ole greasy trout slap across the face.

ROFLMAO! They show Doom3 benchmarks with a workstation card.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Rubycon
It's dual socket 771. Four cores per socket. No big deal.

8 cores @ 3ghz is no big deal?? :Q

meaning anyone could build one for much less than what apple is going to charge you....just pick up a dual skt 771 m/b and start your build

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Rubycon

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Rubycon
It's dual socket 771. Four cores per socket. No big deal.

8 cores @ 3ghz is no big deal?? :Q

Frankly I'm not impressed - I wish more work could be done PER core. Most of the time an 8-way system is going to be crunching away at ~12% when one process is working. For most people buying that machine would be like buying a 10 ton truck for grocery shopping. But then again in the 'States, they have Hummers. :laugh:

For the few processes that can use all 8 cores simultaneously, of course the throughput will be outrageous. It's quite expensive too. I don't know what the Mac's run but the Dell 690's maxed out cost well over $10k and that's with no serious storage options. :Q Single SATA drive on a system like that is a big ole greasy trout slap across the face.

ROFLMAO! They show Doom3 benchmarks with a workstation card.

that is like putting a bb gun on a apache....or a f-22 dropping water balloons - for the price they are going to bend you over for for this unit they should throw in a 2.5" sas 15k raid setup...

and they are suggesting raid0, WTF??? 3TB of data loss because of one f*cking drive

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Rubycon
It's dual socket 771. Four cores per socket. No big deal.

8 cores @ 3ghz is no big deal?? :Q

meaning anyone could build one for much less than what apple is going to charge you....just pick up a dual skt 771 m/b and start your build

Yeah but a Mac is different, as far as the OS goes. I started using Macs in December 2004. I LOVE the operating system for doing graphics/print work so much better than Windows. The 8 core machines look really nice for doing 3D renders (and not having to run a render farm! lol). But $15k...gotta finish paying for college first

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: bob4432

that is like putting a bb gun on a apache....or a f-22 dropping water balloons - for the price they are going to bend you over for for this unit they should throw in a 2.5" sas 15k raid setup...

and they are suggesting raid0, WTF??? 3TB of data loss because of one f*cking drive

I use RAID0 because I need 1GB/S R/W speed on a continuous basis. If a spindle goes, I kick it and rebuild from an image. Nothing is really lost. The NLE scratch goes to a duplexed array on RAID6. Overkill quite possibly but if that's lost it's time to pick up the helical scan tapes and that takes time.

I have to say with IOP341 the penalty for RAID6 is not nearly as bad as thought but then again I've tuned the buffers for the 2GB cache on the controller.

Seems to me it would be cheaper to build your own and run the OS of choice on it. C'mon Apple! Who wants a cheese grater sitting on the desk?

 

[harobikes333]

amen^ ^

Although I find it amusing to go and buy tons of things in your shopping cart ( ... ok yes I'm bored lol ) and in school so not a ton i can do...

i've got about 60K worth and I have an octo, a pro book, 5 ipods, a server or two....^ ^, 10TB of storage..., etc^ ^

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: randomlinh
isn't it 8 cores@ 3ghz only? everything else is quad core total still

Nope:

Get 8-core power from two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon ?Clovertown? processors, or enjoy quad-core performance with two Dual-Core Intel Xeon ?Woodcrest? processors, available in speeds up to 3.0GHz.

if you add it to the cart, you have one single choice for 8 cores, that's 3ghz. the wording of that included all the processors.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: randomlinh
isn't it 8 cores@ 3ghz only? everything else is quad core total still

Nope:

Get 8-core power from two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon ?Clovertown? processors, or enjoy quad-core performance with two Dual-Core Intel Xeon ?Woodcrest? processors, available in speeds up to 3.0GHz.

if you add it to the cart, you have one single choice for 8 cores, that's 3ghz. the wording of that included all the processors.

Yeah, that's odd - no 8-core 2.66ghz option?

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: Rubycon

Originally posted by: bob4432

that is like putting a bb gun on a apache....or a f-22 dropping water balloons - for the price they are going to bend you over for for this unit they should throw in a 2.5" sas 15k raid setup...

and they are suggesting raid0, WTF??? 3TB of data loss because of one f*cking drive

I use RAID0 because I need 1GB/S R/W speed on a continuous basis. If a spindle goes, I kick it and rebuild from an image. Nothing is really lost. The NLE scratch goes to a duplexed array on RAID6. Overkill quite possibly but if that's lost it's time to pick up the helical scan tapes and that takes time.

I have to say with IOP341 the penalty for RAID6 is not nearly as bad as thought but then again I've tuned the buffers for the 2GB cache on the controller.

Seems to me it would be cheaper to build your own and run the OS of choice on it. C'mon Apple! Who wants a cheese grater sitting on the desk?

Sounds like someone else is doing HD. Almost done with my first 1080i project. A two camera wedding. I am the editor, not the shooter. Doing RED Code might make yours much less overkill.

 

[Rubycon]

Acronis seems to like multi core when creating an image!

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[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Rubycon
Acronis seems to like multi core when creating an image!

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must also have to do w/ disk i/o as i can't max my dc doing a backup, most i get is 50-70%....but then again just single 15k drives for me here...

 

[KB24]

I wonder how many apple sold today. I could just imagine what the mac users are going to be saying. "We have a 8 cores though"

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: bob4432

must also have to do w/ disk i/o as i can't max my dc doing a backup, most i get is 50-70%....but then again just single 15k drives for me here...

Target was single 15k Fujitsu MAX 146GB SAS.

Perhaps you didn't have compression set to high? I set the compression to the max and it will use every cpu resource it can.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: Rubycon
Acronis seems to like multi core when creating an image!

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You need a 40" widescreen just to view Performance in Task Manager

 

[ForumMaster]

very few apps can fully utilize that. and apple didn't do anything fancy. anand had a very similar config way back in 9/12/06. he put two 2.4Ghz clovertown samples into a mac pro and it worked fine.

the only people that are going to need this are people who run render farms. maybe run two instances of alan wake of UT2k7? either way, buy a maxed out mac pro, put inux on it and you'll have on heck of a server!

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Rubycon

Originally posted by: bob4432

must also have to do w/ disk i/o as i can't max my dc doing a backup, most i get is 50-70%....but then again just single 15k drives for me here...

Target was single 15k Fujitsu MAX 146GB SAS.

Perhaps you didn't have compression set to high? I set the compression to the max and it will use every cpu resource it can.

forgot about compression....have mine set to normal. is there much difference in space going from normal to max compression? consider 75% of my data is already in a compressed format whether it be jpg, mp3, xvid or rar...

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
very few apps can fully utilize that. and apple didn't do anything fancy. anand had a very similar config way back in 9/12/06. he put two 2.4Ghz clovertown samples into a mac pro and it worked fine.

the only people that are going to need this are people who run render farms. maybe run two instances of alan wake of UT2k7? either way, buy a maxed out mac pro, put inux on it and you'll have on heck of a server!

if you are going to put linux on it, build it yourself and buy a cheap new car with your savings

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: bob4432

forgot about compression....have mine set to normal. is there much difference in space going from normal to max compression? consider 75% of my data is already in a compressed format whether it be jpg, mp3, xvid or rar...

I haven't tried but I've always used highest compression for archives since the Ghost days.