Mac OSX DHCP exploit

NathanBWF

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BUT MACS NEVER HAVE PROBLEMS !?!?!...


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amnesiac

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Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Originally posted by: Beattie
Huh?

generally MAC users always boast about how they never have to worry about security issues...

...well...
rolleye.gif

Generally they don't.

This is one major security hole compared to Windows' what, ten-thousandth??
 

toekramp

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Originally posted by: amnesiac
Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Originally posted by: Beattie
Huh?

generally MAC users always boast about how they never have to worry about security issues...

...well...
rolleye.gif

Generally they don't.

This is one major security hole compared to Windows' what, ten-thousandth??

probably because Macs are used about 10,000 times less frequently
 

NathanBWF

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Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: amnesiac
Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Originally posted by: Beattie
Huh?

generally MAC users always boast about how they never have to worry about security issues...

...well...
rolleye.gif

Generally they don't.

This is one major security hole compared to Windows' what, ten-thousandth??

probably because Macs are used about 10,000 times less frequently


I couldn't agree more...but I'm just saying that MACS aren't 100% flawless like most MAC users claim they are.
 

amnesiac

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Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: amnesiac
Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Originally posted by: Beattie
Huh?

generally MAC users always boast about how they never have to worry about security issues...

...well...
rolleye.gif

Generally they don't.

This is one major security hole compared to Windows' what, ten-thousandth??

probably because Macs are used about 10,000 times less frequently

HURRR LETS MAKE BASELESS COMMENTS ABOUT MACS BEING INFERIOR HURRRR

Seriously dude, just shut up and go play with your tinker toys. This mac bashing sh!t is getting old.

The "security hole" is only valid for the local network anyhow. It's not a gaping IE exploit or a port vunerability.

 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: amnesiac
Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Originally posted by: Beattie
Huh?

generally MAC users always boast about how they never have to worry about security issues...

...well...
rolleye.gif

Generally they don't.

This is one major security hole compared to Windows' what, ten-thousandth??

probably because Macs are used about 10,000 times less frequently


I couldn't agree more...but I'm just saying that MACS aren't 100% flawless like most MAC users claim they are.

who claims they are? Maybe you are hearing things? :confused:
 

EyeMWing

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It's LAN specific. Heh. Hardly a security hole at all, unless you use wireless networks. CAT5e++;
 

NathanBWF

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Originally posted by: amnesiac
Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: amnesiac
Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Originally posted by: Beattie
Huh?

generally MAC users always boast about how they never have to worry about security issues...

...well...
rolleye.gif

Generally they don't.

This is one major security hole compared to Windows' what, ten-thousandth??

probably because Macs are used about 10,000 times less frequently


HURRR LETS MAKE BASELESS COMMENTS ABOUT MACS BEING INFERIOR HURRRR

Seriously dude, just shut up and go play with your tinker toys. This mac bashing sh!t is getting old.

The "security hole" is only valid for the local network anyhow. It's not a gaping IE exploit or a port vunerability.

Someone's a bit ill tempered today. First of all, I wasn't bashing MACS. I was merely pointing out that they do also have security issues from time to time. This wasn't designed to be a bash fest. If it will make you feel any better feel free to punch me in the face via TCP/IP, otherwise go nef somewhere else...
rolleye.gif
 

toekramp

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Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Originally posted by: amnesiac
Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: amnesiac
Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Originally posted by: Beattie
Huh?

generally MAC users always boast about how they never have to worry about security issues...

...well...
rolleye.gif

Generally they don't.

This is one major security hole compared to Windows' what, ten-thousandth??

probably because Macs are used about 10,000 times less frequently


HURRR LETS MAKE BASELESS COMMENTS ABOUT MACS BEING INFERIOR HURRRR

Seriously dude, just shut up and go play with your tinker toys. This mac bashing sh!t is getting old.

The "security hole" is only valid for the local network anyhow. It's not a gaping IE exploit or a port vunerability.

Someone's a bit ill tempered today. First of all, I wasn't bashing MACS. I was merely pointing out that they do also have security issues from time to time. This wasn't designed to be a bash fest. If it will make you feel any better feel free to punch me in the face via TCP/IP, otherwise go nef somewhere else...
rolleye.gif


what he said
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Pet Peeve. It's "Mac" not "MAC."


Lethal


And the fruity colored ones aren't Macs at all. Apple dropped the Macintosh name after the beige G3.
 

GT1999

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I wonder if I'm one of the only people who thinks the reason MS has so many security problems is because they ARE big brother. People hate them, thus they keep trying to hack their software. Everyone always talks about how bad their software is ... I don't exactly agree. Smaller companies don't get as much of this. I'm sure more of these exploits and bugs exist in other software (such as this case), sometimes much easier than it takes some to crack MS's code.

Seems pretty simple and that's my theory.
 

NathanBWF

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Originally posted by: Geekish Thoughts
I wonder if I'm one of the only people who thinks the reason MS has so many security problems is because they ARE big brother. People hate them, thus they keep trying to hack their software. Smaller companies don't get as much of this. I'm sure more of these exploits and bugs exist in other software (such as this case), sometimes much easier than it takes some to crack MS's code.

Seems pretty simple and that's my theory.

I think that's very true. Everyone always wants a piece of the big guy, and yet while I think that their software is easier to crack than say Apple software or what have you, like you said I'm sure there are WAY more attempts to crack MS software than others just because their is so much hatred towards them in the technology wolrd. Hackers probably think that they'll get recognized more, or people would care more for hacking say a major windows component than if they made the news for hacking a component of OSX.
 

Eug

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Pet Peeve. It's "Mac" not "MAC."
Apple dropped the Macintosh name after the beige G3.
You mean like Mac OS X or Power Mac or iMac or eMac?


As for security, part of it is that MS is more common, etc., but remember that unix was built for security first and Windows wasn't. It's much better than it was before, but Windows' defaults didn't promote security.
 

PowerMac4Ever

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Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: amnesiac
Originally posted by: NathanBWF
Originally posted by: Beattie
Huh?

generally MAC users always boast about how they never have to worry about security issues...

...well...
rolleye.gif

Generally they don't.

This is one major security hole compared to Windows' what, ten-thousandth??

probably because Macs are used about 10,000 times less frequently


I couldn't agree more...but I'm just saying that MACS aren't 100% flawless like most MAC users claim they are.
Umm... who would those Mac users be? Mac users knowingly admit that the reason why there are so security holes is because virus writers simply do not target Macs. Really, the reasoning doesn't matter. If Apple were to get 51% of the market, then there would be a lot more people looking for security holes. That probably won't happen though, so Macs will continue to have far fewer problems involving security.
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: Eug
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Pet Peeve. It's "Mac" not "MAC."
Apple dropped the Macintosh name after the beige G3.
You mean like Mac OS X or Power Mac or iMac or eMac?


As for security, part of it is that MS is more common, etc., but remember that unix was built for security first and Windows wasn't. It's much better than it was before, but Windows' defaults didn't promote security.

Power Mac, iMac, eMac != Macintosh. Last computer actually branded Macintosh was the Macintosh Server G3 (Beige G3 minitower with an extra SCSI card and 100mbit LAN card). Every instance I've ever seen of a beige "Mac" has "Macintosh" spelled out on the front panel. Since these were abbreviated as "Mac" in the old days, and the new lines are "Power Mac" not "Power Macintosh" they should not be referred to by the same name to avoid confusion.

Edit: This is in the same vein as Sony's upcoming release of the PSX, which is already the abbreviation for the original Playstation.
 

LethalWolfe

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Pet Peeve. It's "Mac" not "MAC."


Lethal


And the fruity colored ones aren't Macs at all. Apple dropped the Macintosh name after the beige G3.

I'm unclear as to the point of that comment. Are you saying the current computers made by Apple aren't "Macs" because they don't say "Macintosh" on them? If so, isn't that like saying FedEx isn't Federal Express?

You might want to e-mail Apple and tell them that their product guide is wrong: Macintosh Products Guide

Some how I don't think the products listed there are designed for a Biege G3. ;)


Lethal

EDIT: fixed link.
 

PowerMac4Ever

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Eug
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Pet Peeve. It's "Mac" not "MAC."
Apple dropped the Macintosh name after the beige G3.
You mean like Mac OS X or Power Mac or iMac or eMac?


As for security, part of it is that MS is more common, etc., but remember that unix was built for security first and Windows wasn't. It's much better than it was before, but Windows' defaults didn't promote security.

Power Mac, iMac, eMac != Macintosh. Last computer actually branded Macintosh was the Macintosh Server G3 (Beige G3 minitower with an extra SCSI card and 100mbit LAN card). Every instance I've ever seen of a beige "Mac" has "Macintosh" spelled out on the front panel. Since these were abbreviated as "Mac" in the old days, and the new lines are "Power Mac" not "Power Macintosh" they should not be referred to by the same name to avoid confusion.

Edit: This is in the same vein as Sony's upcoming release of the PSX, which is already the abbreviation for the original Playstation.
this doesn't make any sense
 

beer

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Eug
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Pet Peeve. It's "Mac" not "MAC."
Apple dropped the Macintosh name after the beige G3.
You mean like Mac OS X or Power Mac or iMac or eMac?


As for security, part of it is that MS is more common, etc., but remember that unix was built for security first and Windows wasn't. It's much better than it was before, but Windows' defaults didn't promote security.

Power Mac, iMac, eMac != Macintosh. Last computer actually branded Macintosh was the Macintosh Server G3 (Beige G3 minitower with an extra SCSI card and 100mbit LAN card). Every instance I've ever seen of a beige "Mac" has "Macintosh" spelled out on the front panel. Since these were abbreviated as "Mac" in the old days, and the new lines are "Power Mac" not "Power Macintosh" they should not be referred to by the same name to avoid confusion.

Edit: This is in the same vein as Sony's upcoming release of the PSX, which is already the abbreviation for the original Playstation.

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