Mac OS X 10.4.1 Tiger x86 on an intel machine?

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spikespiegal

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How many PC's does MS do as extensive testing, and stamp as golden, then market as "Microsoft" machines?

Actually, Microsoft should start doing this to improve quality control. I should also note the thousands of Mac users I've argued with who still think Microsoft builds PC's.

Microsoft also has very similiar license agreements in regards to Apple's hardware mandates in the form of OEM agreements. Windows OS's for instance *cannot* legally be transferred to hardware other than what they came installed on. People still do this, but it's not sanctioned and a violation of the EULA.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: WelshBloke
I wouldnt classify it as anything.

It's gotta be something.

Define piracy.

Using a product in a manner that is not approved by the owner or licensing authority.

So if I replaced the hard drive in an Apple computer I then wouldnt be able to use OS X on it?

Now you're just being ridiculous.
 

WelshBloke

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
I wouldnt classify it as anything.

It's gotta be something.

Indeed, but why not classify it as installing an operating system you have bought an hardware you own.(admitidly a long classification but you asked:) )

Define piracy.

Using a product in a manner that is not approved by the owner or licensing authority.

Now I suspect you may be makeing your definitions purely to support your argument!
If I put leaded petrol in a hire car that uses unleaded am I now 'pirating' that car? I would be doing wrong but piracy it would not be.

So if I replaced the hard drive in an Apple computer I then wouldnt be able to use OS X on it?

Now you're just being ridiculous.

Not really just pointing out how ridiculous a licencing agreement is that ties you to only use Apple hardware when Apple doesnt make hardware

But to the OP it would be a lot of work to get OS X working and even then it probably wouldnt work very well.

If you want OS X on a laptop then buy an Apple laptop. Sorry
 

spikespiegal

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Not really just pointing out how ridiculous a licencing agreement is that ties you to only use Apple hardware when Apple doesnt make hardware

I think it's "ridiculous" how Apple users have spent the past 10 years ranting about how Intel 'sucks', then wait in line for two days to buy a dual core centrino.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Now I suspect you may be makeing your definitions purely to support your argument!
If I put leaded petrol in a hire car that uses unleaded am I now 'pirating' that car? I would be doing wrong but piracy it would not be.

I thought we were talking about software.

Not really just pointing out how ridiculous a licencing agreement is that ties you to only use Apple hardware when Apple doesnt make hardware

Does the license agreement specifically say Apple hardware? Does it mean Apple branded hardware (which would be the core machine, not peripherals like the hard drive)? Or does it mean Apple manufactured hardware?

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Indeed, but why not classify it as installing an operating system you have bought an hardware you own.(admitidly a long classification but you asked )

You bought a license to use the software, not the software itself.
 

WelshBloke

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Now I suspect you may be makeing your definitions purely to support your argument!
If I put leaded petrol in a hire car that uses unleaded am I now 'pirating' that car? I would be doing wrong but piracy it would not be.

I thought we were talking about software.

Well hardware as well. (admittedly not cars)
Pirating is usually used to mean illegally copying software for resale or sharing when used about software.

Not really just pointing out how ridiculous a licencing agreement is that ties you to only use Apple hardware when Apple doesnt make hardware

Does the license agreement specifically say Apple hardware? Does it mean Apple branded hardware (which would be the core machine, not peripherals like the hard drive)? Or does it mean Apple manufactured hardware? [/quote]

I have no idea what the license agreement says, I dont own any apple products. I was responding to

Originally posted by: CaptKevMan Even when it's technically impossible to obtain a legal license for the activity discussed? Mac OS X is not available as a standalone install for Intel processors yet. It's only available bundled as original system discs with a new Mac, with a license limiting installation of the OS on that particular Mac. So any current discussion about installing Mac OS X on any non-Apple hardware is, in fact, discussing illegal activity (piracy).



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Indeed, but why not classify it as installing an operating system you have bought an hardware you own.(admitidly a long classification but you asked )

You bought a license to use the software, not the software itself.[/quote][/quote]

It would be interesting to see what that license agreement says.

AFAIK insnt the only propriatry part of a Macis the motherboard (Thats why I asked earlier). So if you got one of those, you could buy all the other componants of the shelf and the assembled computer would be exactly the same as a Mac (hardware wise).


edit sorry about the crappy quoting!
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Well hardware as well. (admittedly not cars)
Pirating is usually used to mean illegally copying software for resale or sharing when used about software.

I consider license violations to fall under piracy also, but if someone knows a better category for that I'd love to hear it.

It would be interesting to see what that license agreement says.

AFAIK insnt the only propriatry part of a Macis the motherboard (Thats why I asked earlier). So if you got one of those, you could buy all the other componants of the shelf and the assembled computer would be exactly the same as a Mac (hardware wise).

I don't think the motherboard is proprietary these days. I think it's relatively standard Intel fare. The motherboard was basically the biggest closed piece of hardware in the old PPC macs.

edit sorry about the crappy quoting!

:beer:
 

LethalWolfe

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Originally posted by: jwalker46
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: cw42
Ive got OSX running on my Dell 8600. :)

At least buy a copy.

n0cmonkey:
If Apple would sell a copy of OS X that installs on any Intel mobo, they would have thousands of buyers. Apple's choice; Apple's loss.

And then Apple closes it's doors because they make money selling hardware, not software. Apple's choice; Apple's one of the only computer companies to turn a profit year after year.


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