Mac OS X 10.4.1 Tiger x86 on an intel machine?

[gizbug]

Have an ASUS v6j notebook computer, and I'm wondering if it is possible to put this operating system on and run, or do you need a macbook pro to do this?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Legally you need an Apple computer. I didn't think there was a 10.4.1 version out there, I thought the x86 version was created a while after that...

 

[Zugzwang152]

http://www.osx86project.org/


It's not legal though, but good reading.

 

[cw42]

Ive got OSX running on my Dell 8600.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: cw42
Ive got OSX running on my Dell 8600.

At least buy a copy.

 

[jwalker46]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: cw42
Ive got OSX running on my Dell 8600.

At least buy a copy.

n0cmonkey:
If Apple would sell a copy of OS X that installs on any Intel mobo, they would have thousands of buyers. Apple's choice; Apple's loss.

gizbug:
From the websites and forums devoted to this project: OS X does run on non-Apple hw, but not all...SSE2 support is essential, SSE3 better....see the OSx86 website WIKI for a Hardware Compatibility List. The simplest bet appears to be is an Intel mobo w/ the 945G chipset and onboard graphics.

 

[gizbug]

Thanks. I have an ASUS V6j.
# ntel Centrino Duo Mobile Technology - Intel Core Duo Processor -Mobile Intel 945PM Express Chipset -Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
# Microsoft Windows XP -Home -Professional
# 15"XGA/SXGA+ ZBD LCD
# DDR2 533/667MHz, up to 1GB

 

[stu1811]

Download CPU-Z that will tell you which instruction sets your computer supports. Like jwalker 46 said you need SS2 to run it, but preferablly SS3.

 

[CaptKevMan]

Has it suddenly become acceptable to discuss illegal means for acquiring and installing software here at AT?

 

[Zugzwang152]

discussing the technical possibilities is different than supporting piracy.

 

[CaptKevMan]

Even when it's technically impossible to obtain a legal license for the activity discussed? Mac OS X is not available as a standalone install for Intel processors yet. It's only available bundled as original system discs with a new Mac, with a license limiting installation of the OS on that particular Mac. So any current discussion about installing Mac OS X on any non-Apple hardware is, in fact, discussing illegal activity (piracy).

 

[WelshBloke]

Originally posted by: CaptKevMan
Even when it's technically impossible to obtain a legal license for the activity discussed? Mac OS X is not available as a standalone install for Intel processors yet. It's only available bundled as original system discs with a new Mac, with a license limiting installation of the OS on that particular Mac. So any current discussion about installing Mac OS X on any non-Apple hardware is, in fact, discussing illegal activity (piracy).

Just out of interest what hardware do they make?

I know that sounds a stupid question but arent they ultimatly like dell but bundle in their own operating system?

 

[OSX]

I find it interesting how people at AT are completely against pirating Windows, and will talk about how unacceptable it is, yet when it's Apple's software, don't bother buying a legit copy as well, since they haven't made it available for other platforms. What if I run Windows XP in Bochs on a PowerPC machine? Do I not need to buy a copy anymore because Windows XP doesn't exist for PowerPC?

WelshBloke is just stupid, Apple makes the Macintosh line of desktops, and Xserve servers. Even if you buy a Dell, then you're still paying for the license, it's included with the cost. You're just buying a different operating system.

 

[WelshBloke]

Originally posted by: OSX
I find it interesting how people at AT are completely against pirating Windows, and will talk about how unacceptable it is, yet when it's Apple's software, don't bother buying a legit copy as well, since they haven't made it available for other platforms. What if I run Windows XP in Bochs on a PowerPC machine? Do I not need to buy a copy anymore because Windows XP doesn't exist for PowerPC?

WelshBloke is just stupid, Apple makes the Macintosh line of desktops, and Xserve servers. Even if you buy a Dell, then you're still paying for the license, it's included with the cost. You're just buying a different operating system.

You can call me stupid if you want, I was just curious as to what hardware Apple make (as in Cpu's, Gpu's, hard drives etc).

I was making no point about licencing agreements at all.
But as youve brought it up if i bought a macmini and decided to install osx on my laptop and linux on the macmini what exactly would be the harm to Apple and how would that equal pirating?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: jwalker46
n0cmonkey:
If Apple would sell a copy of OS X that installs on any Intel mobo, they would have thousands of buyers. Apple's choice; Apple's loss.

That in no way justifies piracy and makes you sound like a 5 year old.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: WelshBloke
You can call me stupid if you want, I was just curious as to what hardware Apple make (as in Cpu's, Gpu's, hard drives etc).

Increasingly less and less. They used to help design many more parts of the system.

I was making no point about licencing agreements at all.
But as youve brought it up if i bought a macmini and decided to install osx on my laptop and linux on the macmini what exactly would be the harm to Apple and how would that equal pirating?

Read the OS X license.

 

[jwalker46]

n0cmonkey: Thank you for the insult; it says quite a lot about yourself.

 

[Zugzwang152]

Originally posted by: jwalker46
n0cmonkey: Thank you for the insult; it says quite a lot about yourself.

actually it says way more about you.

 

[OSX]

Originally posted by: WelshBloke

Originally posted by: OSX
I find it interesting how people at AT are completely against pirating Windows, and will talk about how unacceptable it is, yet when it's Apple's software, don't bother buying a legit copy as well, since they haven't made it available for other platforms. What if I run Windows XP in Bochs on a PowerPC machine? Do I not need to buy a copy anymore because Windows XP doesn't exist for PowerPC?

WelshBloke is just stupid, Apple makes the Macintosh line of desktops, and Xserve servers. Even if you buy a Dell, then you're still paying for the license, it's included with the cost. You're just buying a different operating system.

You can call me stupid if you want, I was just curious as to what hardware Apple make (as in Cpu's, Gpu's, hard drives etc).

I was making no point about licencing agreements at all.
But as youve brought it up if i bought a macmini and decided to install osx on my laptop and linux on the macmini what exactly would be the harm to Apple and how would that equal pirating?

Sorry, I misunderstood you, I thought you'd never heard of a Mac before. Apple doesn't really make anything, mabye the motherboards, but the PowerPC G5 was IBM, the Core was Intel, and pretty much everything else is done by the same people who make PC hardware.

 

[nweaver]

the difference is they do all the testing, they assemble the full unit, and sell it as a mac. How many PC's does MS do as extensive testing, and stamp as golden, then market as "Microsoft" machines?

 

[timswim78]

Originally posted by: nweaver
the difference is they do all the testing, they assemble the full unit, and sell it as a mac. How many PC's does MS do as extensive testing, and stamp as golden, then market as "Microsoft" machines?

Thanks for the obligatory MS VS. Apple comment.

 

[WelshBloke]

Originally posted by: nweaver
the difference is they do all the testing, they assemble the full unit, and sell it as a mac. How many PC's does MS do as extensive testing, and stamp as golden, then market as "Microsoft" machines?

How many fully built computers do Microsoft sell?

 

[WelshBloke]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: WelshBloke
You can call me stupid if you want, I was just curious as to what hardware Apple make (as in Cpu's, Gpu's, hard drives etc).

Increasingly less and less. They used to help design many more parts of the system.

I was making no point about licencing agreements at all.
But as youve brought it up if i bought a macmini and decided to install osx on my laptop and linux on the macmini what exactly would be the harm to Apple and how would that equal pirating?

Read the OS X license.

Breach of licensing agreement doesnt equal piracy.

I'm not condoning downloading an iso of OS X (that would be piracy), but if youve bought a copy of OS X and only install it on one computer how would that be piracy.

Licencing agreements are not always legally enforcable, national law comes above any agreements between third parties.

Originally posted by: OSX

Sorry, I misunderstood you, I thought you'd never heard of a Mac before. Apple doesn't really make anything, mabye the motherboards, but the PowerPC G5 was IBM, the Core was Intel, and pretty much everything else is done by the same people who make PC hardware.

Which would make a licencing agreement to only install something on Apple hardware rather dodgy ground.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Breach of licensing agreement doesnt equal piracy.

I'm not condoning downloading an iso of OS X (that would be piracy), but if youve bought a copy of OS X and only install it on one computer how would that be piracy.

What is it then? How would you classify it? You don't have a copy to run on a non-Apple branded machine, which makes it sound like piracy to me.

Licencing agreements are not always legally enforcable, national law comes above any agreements between third parties.

Inconsequential. Piracy isn't illegal or enforced in all countries either.

Which would make a licencing agreement to only install something on Apple hardware rather dodgy ground.

Not really, they clearly brand the hardware they consider Apple hardware.

 

[WelshBloke]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Breach of licensing agreement doesnt equal piracy.

I'm not condoning downloading an iso of OS X (that would be piracy), but if youve bought a copy of OS X and only install it on one computer how would that be piracy.

What is it then? How would you classify it? You don't have a copy to run on a non-Apple branded machine, which makes it sound like piracy to me.

I wouldnt classify it as anything.

Licencing agreements are not always legally enforcable, national law comes above any agreements between third parties.

Inconsequential. Piracy isn't illegal or enforced in all countries either. [/quote]

Define piracy.

Which would make a licencing agreement to only install something on Apple hardware rather dodgy ground.

Not really, they clearly brand the hardware they consider Apple hardware.[/quote]

So if I replaced the hard drive in an Apple computer I then wouldnt be able to use OS X on it?