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SickBeast

Lifer
Jul 21, 2000
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IMO OP needs:

moar sensibility
moar thought prior to posting
moar credibility
moar knowledge

Hopefully over time the OP will develop into an actual Elite Member rather than a self-proclaimed one. :)
 

exar333

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2004
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IMO OP needs:

moar sensibility
moar thought prior to posting
moar credibility
moar knowledge

Hopefully over time the OP will develop into an actual Elite Member rather than a self-proclaimed one. :)

This.

Silly rant from the OP.
 

Jaydip

Diamond Member
Mar 29, 2010
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Not at all actually...I have the wonderfull ability of lacking all emotion. I just had the thought of a funny cartoon like scenario in my head...but lacking any and all creative ability left me with just that post.
What are u actually?A geth:p
 

Zebo

Elite Member
Jul 29, 2001
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Dont buy shit if you don't like it. There have been some killer buys though since 4870s...

Like $247 5850
$191 FTW 800Mhz 448
$220 6950 flashable

snooze u looze. There will be again keep your eyes peeled.
 

Cerb

Elite Member
Aug 26, 2000
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It's getting harder and harder for nVidia and AMD (and Intel for that matter) to make new GPUs with drastically higher performance.
Given NVidia's problems with their big chips, especially, and that the high-end market isn't all that big, I don't get why they haven't gone the route of designing midrange GPUs to use SMP, over making a separate big chip (HW/FW-level SMP, not software-managed, like SLI).

The thing is, the 7870 and 7850 will both be low end pretty soon, and will be much faster than the current 6870/6850.
I seriously doubt they'll be displacing x4xx to x6xx models any time soon. Even now, you can find some not much over $200. I would expect <=$200 w/o sales or rebates by back to school time, which is in the sweet spot, unless NVidia royally screws up, somehow.
 

Bobisuruncle54

Senior member
Oct 19, 2011
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I love all these AMD/Nvidia apologists that think we should be giving what amounts to charitable donations to these companies.

Whatever problems they may be facing are irrelevant, and it's pathetic to see forum members express this attitude of "look I know it's tough out there AMD/Nvidia, so just try your best, OK?"?! As consumers it is not our inclination to pay premiums on new products because a company finds them difficult to manufacture; it is up to said companies to provide a compelling product which is still profitable for them. But instead we have a few idiots willing to pay ridiculous prices for the sake of their e-peens and then attempt to justify the cost and commit to blabbering out supportive rubbish as if these companies were one of their own children.

The OP's post may be lacking in sophistication but seeing as reason alone won't get through to the numskulls that accept these prices I don't blame him.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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I'm surprised they (AMD and NV) manage to sell as many high end cards as they do. The performance of cards seems to way outstrip the demands of games at the moment.
 

Hauk

Platinum Member
Nov 22, 2001
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OP sees the big picture though. If one examines PCB design complexity, cooler quality, etc, it's quite clear nVidia has been on a cost cutting mission. Sure one can get all scientific and go in to R&D costs, new process costs, etc, but I'm talking component quality. I'll just let pics to the rest:


GTX 4xx component quality:
480OVERALL.jpg

480HEATSINK.jpg

GTX470.jpg




GTX 5xx component quality:
580PCB.jpg

GTX580.jpg

GTX580A.jpg




GTX 6xx component quality:
GTX680.jpg

GTX670A.jpg

GTX670.jpg
 

Grooveriding

Diamond Member
Dec 25, 2008
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OP sees the big picture though. If one examines PCB design complexity, cooler quality, etc, it's quite clear nVidia has been on a cost cutting mission. Sure one can get all scientific and go in to R&D costs, new process costs, etc, but I'm talking component quality. I'll just let pics to the rest:

snip.

There is no doubt that the 680/670 cost significantly less to produce than the 580 and even moreso the 480 did in terms of components. The 480 was probably one of the most expensive cards they ever made with the robust PCB and hefty cooler it needed.

The 680 reminded me of an 8800GT when I took it out of the box and handled it. Even moreso when I was installing water blocks on the bare board. The 670 looks like a low profile HTPC card. I'll bet when we get the GTX 780/GK110 it will be more in line with what we have seen from their flagship cards in the past.

If yields are not completely abysmal and costs super high on 28nm wafers, nvidia is making a ton on selling these rinky dink cards for so much. :whiste:
 

KompuKare

Golden Member
Jul 28, 2009
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If yields are not completely abysmal and costs super high on 28nm wafers, nvidia is making a ton on selling these rinky dink cards for so much. :whiste:

Ah, if they make enough profit then the next time they have a spat with TSMC a certain CEO can afford to throw a solid gold rattle out of his pram...
 

Olikan

Platinum Member
Sep 23, 2011
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OP sees the big picture though. If one examines PCB design complexity, cooler quality, etc, it's quite clear nVidia has been on a cost cutting mission. Sure one can get all scientific and go in to R&D costs, new process costs, etc, but I'm talking component quality. I'll just let pics to the rest:

don't forget, even with the same components.... it would be cheaper today