Luxury like cars under $18,000

[ayabe]

can't be bothered. It's all lies to help sell fuckin cars and they're paid off to manipulate those numbers, scrub.

"actual driving conditions may vary" what a scam

Except Infiniti, amiright?

Good thing you took that 10-20% out with your edit, cuz you know it might also apply to your cars mileage.

Please just keep posting, we need an ownage of the year thread for 2010.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

can't be bothered. It's all lies to help sell fuckin cars and they're paid off to manipulate those numbers, scrub.

"actual driving conditions may vary" what a scam

I get 16 mpg city with my tahoe, I dont see why the Camaro cant get 18 or whatever it was

 

[casiotech wants a new accord]

so you're saying you will buy a status car when you make enough $$$

welcome to my world

 

[casiotech wants a new accord]

Except Infiniti, amiright?

Good thing you took that 10-20% out with your edit, cuz you know it might also apply to your cars mileage.

Please just keep posting, we need an ownage of the year thread for 2010.

i keep my posts precise.. anyway I am SAYING that the gas mileage on ALL CARS IS BULLSHIT INCLUDING THE G37 but I never complain about gas prices like all these other scrubs. I don't drive much and it's no big deal, in fact I WISH gas would be $10/g so all this riff raff can get off the roads and make my ride more enjoyable.. I hate traffic!

but whatever my gas mileage is i'm sure the SS CAMARO is leaps and bounds worse. 16mpg vs 17mpg haha yeah right.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

so you're saying you will buy a status car when you make enough $$$

welcome to my world

No, I could care less what people think about what I drive. Hell I drive a blue Jetta, but its fine for what I use it for. Ive wanted an M3 since I was like 10 years old, and even more so when I drove one around the ring in Germany a few years back. I'll probably buy another Jetta diesel after this one is done as a DD and keep the M3 for the weekends.

 

[Arkaign]

yeah I live in sofla.. lots of salt and moisture.. better salt and moisture than ice and salt from the roads up north at -20 degree temperatures. Unless you keep it in the garage and wax it all the time, it's going to get massive problems after 10 years. And if you do keep it in a garage and baby it, well then...

If he's not going to trade it in what will he do with it? Nobody will buy it for much more than the TRADE in value anyway. And there's a good chance the original owners leased it and abused it which is why I would never buy a used car. I could have bought a used M5 or AMG c63 for the same money.. then you guys would froth at the mouth, right? But that would make me a poser. Buying a new car is the smart, sensible thing to do with new car smell and 8 engine miles and full warranty.

So what's the private party value? 1 grand higher? Does it make a diff? That's a $10,000 car MAX. The same price as a new aveo. But you don't see guys with Aveo's mouthing off like dividebyzero trying to measure up to me.

Retail on an '01 M3 in good condition with 56k miles is $15.6k, and one in excellent condition is higher. Private party isn't really any cheaper (check autotrader), as the only E46 M3's you'll see in the $10k-$12k range are ones that either have a shitpack of miles or are beat to shit somehow (salvage)

NO buying a used lux/sport car doesn't make you a poser. Really you can only be a poser if you're buying a car to 'pose' for other folks. DbZ almost NEVER mentions the cars he owns unless it's relevant to the discussion, and when he does, it's not a 'nyah-nyah look at me' kind of brag, it's actually apropos to the conversation at hand. Buying a 325i and putting ///M badges on it, that's a poser.

 

[casiotech wants a new accord]

See if you had only said this earlier we would have cut you more slack, I can see now why you're so insecure - just about everyone in south FL has a better car than you.

Should have gotten a 335i, then you wouldn't feel like such a peasant.

uh sofla is mostly haitians and poor cubans save downtown/brickell/sobe area where everyone is successful. I live in Miami Beach where it's pretty mixed.. anyway, the norm is 328i or c300.. maybe an A4 here and there..

a 335 and a g37 have almost the same MSRP do you know anything about new cars? My car MSRP is almost $37,000. The 335i is $40.

 

[casiotech wants a new accord]

Retail on an '01 M3 in good condition with 56k miles is $15.6k, and one in excellent condition is higher. Private party isn't really any cheaper (check autotrader), as the only E46 M3's you'll see in the $10k-$12k range are ones that either have a shitpack of miles or are beat to shit somehow (salvage)

it's not a 'nyah-nyah look at me' kind of brag, it's actually apropos to the conversation at hand. Buying a 325i and putting ///M badges on it, that's a poser.

he's skilled in the art of posing, i'll give him that. He's not all up in your face about it. Or maybe at this point he realizes nobody is impressed by a 2001 M3 anymore like from his posts 5 years ago.

why are you telling me retail? Is he a dealer? Will he give a warranty with his car, or fix any issues prior to selling it? So why quote "retail" nobody pays retail for a car and if they do it's because the dealer makes crazy $$$ buying up salvage cars from auctions using the black book wholesales prices, then fixing them.. I mean dealers need to make money too.

Like I said, trade in and Private party "average" is about all it's worth.. on a good day.

 

[Pantoot]

So why quote "retail" nobody pays retail for a car

335 and a g37 have almost the same MSRP do you know anything about new cars? My car MSRP is almost $37,000. The 335i is $40.

People pay MSRP though, right?

 

[casiotech wants a new accord]

nobody pays retail on a USED CAR from an independent reseller. Paying MSRP on a new car is quite common.

I have a Journey w/moonroof, they discounted it. I'm sure BMW would be more than happy to discount a 335i if I wanted one.. but BMW is one of the last luxury car brand on my list when I was shopping around (right above Audi and Benz. )

 

[Doggiedog]

uh sofla is mostly haitians and poor cubans save downtown/brickell/sobe area where everyone is successful. I live in Miami Beach where it's pretty mixed.. anyway, the norm is 328i or c300.. maybe an A4 here and there..

a 335 and a g37 have almost the same MSRP do you know anything about new cars? My car MSRP is almost $37,000. The 335i is $40.

You are quite a bit off. The MSRP of a base G37 sedan is under $34K. The MSRP of a base E90 335i is a little over $40K. You need to compare apples to apples.

 

[casiotech wants a new accord]

You are incorrect

i have a few options.. nobody carries base base models. It's just a ploy to get you into the dealership with an attractive entry price.

When they get you there you have to buy a Journey w/moonroof plus some small extra features. My sticker was $36,789. I bought at the end of the year, so picking was slim.

 

[Arkaign]

he's skilled in the art of posing, i'll give him that. He's not all up in your face about it. Or maybe at this point he realizes nobody is impressed by a 2001 M3 anymore like from his posts 5 years ago.

why are you telling me retail? Is he a dealer? Will he give a warranty with his car, or fix any issues prior to selling it? So why quote "retail" nobody pays retail for a car and if they do it's because the dealer makes crazy $$$ buying up salvage cars from auctions using the black book wholesales prices, then fixing them.. I mean dealers need to make money too.

Like I said, trade in and Private party "average" is about all it's worth.. on a good day.

No way.

You simply don't see minty E46 M3s with ~50-60k miles going for 'trade-in' or average prices, unless there's something wrong with it. The cars are sought-after by people who know how damned good they are, and it's easy to get $15k+ for a good one. They sell ALL_THE_TIME at that price point

A good car doesn't become shit simply because a few years pass. Good cars are good cars, shit cars are shit cars, and only abuse, a wreck, or just using the thing up will change that. Seems like E46 M3s are good for about 120k-150k without any major problems, so again, 56k is nothing.

Also only an idiot wouldn't check the vehicle history and buy a salvage title car for retail. Dealers do charge more, which is why a car like the above, with 56k miles and mint condition would probably get $18k-$20k from a dealer.

Point of fact, and there are countless examples :

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...ar::ispsearchform&cardist=1383&standard=false

~$22k, with about 10k more miles, from a dealer.

 

[DivideBYZero]

My M3 was one of the first 300 ever built, I bought it with 19k miles on the clock from a BMW dealer as a CPO car and it has had a BMW warranty ever since it was new. I maintain all my cars at my local BMW dealer and keep up on all servicing on time and never scrimp if work needs doing (not that it has outside consumables). That's smart motoring in a class car. You obviously don't actually even enjoy cars if everytime you get in the door you crap your pants about how much it's worth. I'd rather drive a Nissan if I gave a hot shit about that, but I have more self respect and enjoy cars/driving.

You bought a cloth seated Nissan brand new, sucked down the huge depreciation and think that's smart? When you jack it in at three years it will have cost you $6k a year minimum to run it. My car costs me nothing per month bar insurance and usual costs, and I get a car allowance from my employer, which I can pocket AND a fuel card for free fuel. Yeah, that's the deal, I get a very fast, luxury ride and you get a Datsun with shopping cart steel wheels and manual windows.

Tell you what, you should probably not be working in the financial arena as you appear to have the financial acumen of a wounded Badger.

 

[casiotech wants a new accord]

Good for the dealer

fact remains try getting that as a private seller or trade in you will get the KBB value.

ps you realize you just linked to a 2003 not a 2001 right? 2 years makes huge diff

I initially read his car as "53k miles when he bought it" assuming it's closer to 100k now. If in fact it is only at 53k miles now.. lets not try to fool anyone here.

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Pri...160|0|0|&Mileage=60000&PriceTypePath=Trade-In

luckily for him he's in the UK where people will pay a million GBP for it.

 

[Doggiedog]

You are incorrect

i have a few options.. nobody carries base base models. It's just a ploy to get you into the dealership with an attractive entry price.

When they get you there you have to buy a Journey w/moonroof plus some small extra features. My sticker was $36,789. I bought at the end of the year, so picking was slim.

Again, you have to compare apples to apples. Go by the base model and then add on the options and the difference in price will get bigger. That's where BMW really gets you. The G is much better equipped than the 3. If you want some of those features like leather, a HDD MP3 player, heated seats, etc you are going to pay a lot more. If your sticker is $37K, I'll bet an equivalently equipped 335i will be a lot more than $40K. Let's just add in the premium package just to even it out with your car. Right there it's already $43K.

Edit: Oh I forgot to add auto. That's another $1200 on top of that.

 

[casiotech wants a new accord]

My M3 was one of the first 300 ever built, I bought it with 19k miles on the clock from a BMW dealer as a CPO car and it has had a BMW warranty ever since it was new. I maintain all my cars at my local BMW dealer and keep up on all servicing on time and never scrimp if work needs doing (not that it has outside consumables). That's smart motoring in a class car. You obviously don't actually even enjoy cars if everytime you get in the door you crap your pants about how much it's worth. I'd rather drive a Nissan if I gave a hot shit about that, but I have more self respect and enjoy cars/driving.

1.You bought a cloth seated Nissan brand new, sucked down the huge depreciation and think that's smart? When you jack it in at three years it will have cost you $6k a year minimum to run it. My car costs me nothing per month bar insurance and usual costs, and I get a car allowance from my employer, which I can pocket AND a fuel card for free fuel. Yeah, that's the deal, 2.I get a very fast, luxury ride and you 3. get a Datsun with shopping cart steel wheels and manual windows.

Tell you what, 4.you should probably not be working in the financial arena as you appear to have the financial acumen of a wounded Badger.

1. I bought an infiniti dumbass, try to keep up. AND I paid less than the trade in value of an excellent of an 09. That's how great I am at negotiating. I actually left the dealer with POSITIVE equity, if I traded my car in now I would make $2800 more than I paid.

2. if by luxury you mean a VW like interior, then yes.

3. Oh I see, projection.. I get it now.

4. but it works out so well for me. I make enough to buy a $37,000 car and you don't.

Tell me more about your gas allowance. I take it you have to use your car to deliver pizzas. And it only has 53k miles after 10 years...lololol. Good way to save face.. You can't deny the fact you own a diarrhea green colored car even though you told some people your car is black. So at least you can say you have low mileage to raise the value of your $7,000 car.. nice try, but I don't buy it.

 

[casiotech wants a new accord]

Again, you have to compare apples to apples. Go by the base model and then add on the options and the difference in price will get bigger. That's where BMW really gets you. The G is much better equipped than the 3. If you want some of those features like leather, a HDD MP3 player, heated seats, etc you are going to pay a lot more. If your sticker is $37K, I'll bet an equivalently equipped 335i will be a lot more than $40K. Let's just add in the premium package just to even it out with your car. Right there it's already $43K.

Edit: Oh I forgot to add auto. That's another $1200 on top of that.

what? All BMWs come standard with leather. What year do you think you guys are in?

The only upgrade I would get on a 335 is automatic. Everything else is comparable to the G37, which also comes standard with leather, unlike what dividebyzero thinks (clothed nissan with roll up windows lololol) of course he still thinks german cars are superior when they're trailing in last place.

 

[Arkaign]

Good for the dealer

fact remains try getting that as a private seller or trade in you will get the KBB value.

ps you realize you just linked to a 2003 not a 2001 right? 2 years makes huge diff

I initially read his car as "53k miles when he bought it" assuming it's closer to 100k now. If in fact it is only at 53k miles now.. lets not try to fool anyone here.

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Pri...160|0|0|&Mileage=60000&PriceTypePath=Trade-In

luckily for him he's in the UK where people will pay a million GBP for it.

No, and there is a massive difference between private party value and trade in value.

With trade-in, the dealer just chops you in the nuts, particularly on specialty vehicles like the M3 (or AMG and S/RS Audis as well).

Private party on good examples brings nearly as much as full retail, again all you have to do is go look at the listings. You said the thing was only worth $7k in the beginning, now you have to backtrack a ton. Go find me an '01 M3, non-salvage, with under $60k miles for $7k. Better yet, go find me one for TWICE that price. You probably won't find one, more likely find them for $15k-$17k, and even then far and few between.

 

[Doggiedog]

what? All BMWs come standard with leather. What year do you think you guys are in?

The only upgrade I would get on a 335 is automatic. Everything else is comparable to the G37, which also comes standard with leather, unlike what dividebyzero thinks (clothed nissan with roll up windows lololol) of course he still thinks german cars are superior when they're trailing in last place.

I live in 2010. I have a 09 335i without leather. Like you, there are just some options I did not need or want. I don't drive my car that much but when I do I want to enjoy driving it that's why I got a sport package in 6MT.

 

[ayabe]

4. but it works out so well for me. I make enough to buy a $37,000 car and you don't.

This will be my last one for today, but you won't find anyone in here who'll trade a paid for M3 in mint condition for your base G37(oh wait not base, I forgot about the auto on/off headlights - ohh the prestige!!) with autotragic.

Enjoy your car payment.

I reiterate:

NO ONE.

 

[ayabe]

what? All BMWs come standard with leather. What year do you think you guys are in?

The only upgrade I would get on a 335 is automatic.

OK, I lied you are just unstoppable, 1's and 3's come with leatherette which IS NOT LEATHER.

Upgrade to an automatic? P....P....P...Poser.

Adieu, for real this time.

 

[DivideBYZero]

1. I bought an infiniti dumbass, try to keep up.

2. if by luxury you mean a VW like interior, then yes.

3. Oh I see, projection.. I get it now.

4. but it works out so well for me. I make enough to buy a $37,000 car and you don't.

Tell me more about your gas allowance. I take it you have to use your car to deliver pizzas. And it only has 53k miles after 10 years...lololol.

1. Infiniti; Definition: Tarted up Nissan.

2. It's 'infinitely' better than your interior. I'll watch the 'Buy Me A New Accord TV' channel on my widescreen TV/DVD Nav unit while resting on my heated Nappa leather and piano black trim, then I'll listen to your Nissan podcast on my Intravee iPod integration as I always enjoy a laugh.

3. ????

4. Less than me, though. :awe:

5. I work for a top ten independent software corp and as an Architect and consultant my skills are required from the UK to the Middle East. Anyone can lash up a spreadsheet and check a tax bill, peon. I get as much as I want for gas. I'm worth it. :awe:

 

[casiotech wants a new accord]

Yes the auto on and off is the best part of the Journey package!! And the moonroof is pretty great too.

anyway I KNOW everyone would take a new G37 over an old Benz any day. You are clueless if you think otherwise.

 

[casiotech wants a new accord]

OK, I lied you are just unstoppable, 1's and 3's come with leatherette which IS NOT LEATHER.

Upgrade to an automatic? P....P....P...Poser.

Adieu, for real this time.

oh yeah, those dudes in the Lambo must be posers too because they use tiptronic. Yeah, don't be mad you can't afford an automatic. Enjoy that stick when you're rolling down a hill in traffic