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lower/middle/upper class?

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AmbitV

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Can someone tell me, roughly, where the line is drawn between these classes? Like annual salary/value of house, assets, etc?
This is for California.
 
Where in California? Those lines are far different in different areas. Take northern cali, say further north the sacramento, land there is cheaper, and thus, a lower standard for upper class.
 
middle class means that you're doing some sort of white collar job but don't own the means of production/company
upper class means you own the meas of production/company
working class means you're doing some sort of blue collar job.
lower means you're a cash register jockey or doing irregular work or not working at all.
 
hmm interesting responses guys. I actually know some professionals making over 300k, but don't own the business! pretty rare tho
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
middle class means that you're doing some sort of white collar job but don't own the means of production/company
upper class means you own the meas of production/company
working class means you're doing some sort of blue collar job.
lower means you're probably not working or doing odd jobs every once in a while
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Minimum wage... 13k/year(gross) is barely enough to live on...
 
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: ElFenix
middle class means that you're doing some sort of white collar job but don't own the means of production/company
upper class means you own the meas of production/company
working class means you're doing some sort of blue collar job.
lower means you're probably not working or doing odd jobs every once in a while
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Minimum wage... 13k/year(gross) is barely enough to live on...
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i made no claims as the livability of the class structure.
 
Originally posted by: vman
hmm interesting responses guys. I actually know some professionals making over 300k, but don't own the business! pretty rare tho
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lawyer who isn't a partner?
 
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: ElFenix
middle class means that you're doing some sort of white collar job but don't own the means of production/company
upper class means you own the meas of production/company
working class means you're doing some sort of blue collar job.
lower means you're probably not working or doing odd jobs every once in a while
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Minimum wage... 13k/year(gross) is barely enough to live on...
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Barely? I'd say not at all, but I guess some do...
 
define blue collar job? non-management/office crap?

ie construction, retail, industrial, manufacuturing?
 
What Illusion 88 said.

I know in Stockton for instance, what is considered upper class would be what the Bay Area calls middle class.

Also the value of housing is different in these communities. And where housing is cheaper, pay is cheaper.

In the nursing field for instance, the Bay Area CNAs are paid [through registries] anything from $16 - $19, yet it's about $10 - $14 for Central Valley folks. The same applies for LVNs and RNs.
 
Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Originally posted by: theNEOone
$25k lower class up to $200k middle class up to $300k "upper middle" class $300k+ upper class
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Is this income or total worth?
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Total worth. Sounds a bit low, though.

Upper middle class areas generally have a household median income of $80,000+

Originally posted by: ElFenix
middle class means that you're doing some sort of white collar job but don't own the means of production/company
upper class means you own the meas of production/company
working class means you're doing some sort of blue collar job.
lower means you're probably not working or doing odd jobs every once in a while
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Not necessarily.
Take into account those in the financial industry. There are agents at the company I work at who pull in up to $1M a year but aren't in any sort of management / ownership position.
Then again, in those cases you're pretty much your own boss (i.e. you have minimum quotas but no one telling you what to do), so I suppose your guideline is pretty accurate.
 
Originally posted by: amnesiac

Originally posted by: ElFenix
middle class means that you're doing some sort of white collar job but don't own the means of production/company
upper class means you own the meas of production/company
working class means you're doing some sort of blue collar job.
lower means you're probably not working or doing odd jobs every once in a while
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Not necessarily.
Take into account those in the financial industry. There are agents at the company I work at who pull in up to $1M a year but aren't in any sort of management / ownership position.
Then again, in those cases you're pretty much your own boss (i.e. you have minimum quotas but no one telling you what to do), so I suppose your guideline is pretty accurate.
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true agents would be upper class because they have their own business selling financial services. note that i'm not using some craptacular colloquial definition or census definition which says you're poor if you made under $20K nevermind you're rolling an escalade because you own the damn company and pay yourself in benefits.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: ElFenix
middle class means that you're doing some sort of white collar job but don't own the means of production/company
upper class means you own the meas of production/company
working class means you're doing some sort of blue collar job.
lower means you're probably not working or doing odd jobs every once in a while
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Minimum wage... 13k/year(gross) is barely enough to live on...
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i made no claims as the livability of the class structure.
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Do you have any sources to support the lines you've made? Because I think they're completely wrong.

And if the other guy was saying $300k+ INCOME was upper-middle class, he was wrong too. Net worth maybe, not income.
 
Originally posted by: rival
define blue collar job? non-management/office crap?

ie construction, retail, industrial, manufacuturing?
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you're doing some sort of physical labor that does require a skillset.

bah, i need to revise to take in low skills positions like cash register jockey
 
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
If you have to ask then, unfortunately, you are a solid part of the lower class. The rest of us know where we are!😀
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You think poor people dont' know they're poor? He asked because the lines are ambiguous. More likely he'd be middle-class.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: vman
hmm interesting responses guys. I actually know some professionals making over 300k, but don't own the business! pretty rare tho
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lawyer who isn't a partner?
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Managing director of portfolio, but not a partner in the firm!
 
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