Lower back pain?

brikis98

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Disclaimer: I am not a doctor or expert and if you have back issues or other injuries, I highly recommend you consult with one. The advice below is simply what I've been able to gather from personal research, so use it at your own risk.

The Problem: Pelvic Tilt

For the last couple months, I have been dealing with pain in my lower back and hips. These injuries developed when I started to squat and deadlift heavy weights, but the cause, in my case, had nothing to do with weight lifting. It took me a long time to figure it out, but I believe I have what is known as anterior pelvic tilt. Here are a couple of great resources that discuss the issue:

1. Hips Don't Lie: Fixing your Force Couples
2. Lordosis: Why it Causes Lower Back Pain

One indicator of anterior pelvic tilt is that, when I look at myself in a mirror from the side, I can see that my belt tilts forward - the back of the belt is a bit higher than the front. When I tighten my abs, the arch in my lower back is reduced, my pelvis rotates up slightly, and my belt line evens out. Anterior pelvic tilt is associated with tight erector spinae, excessive curve of the spine, short hip flexors, as well as weaknesses in several muscles - abs, glutes, and hamstrings. The main cause for me - and probably many others - is sitting for extended periods of time. I exercise daily, but as a software engineer, sitting is part of my job. I also never took the time to stretch, so my flexibility was terrible.

It turns out that this condition makes it impossible for me to maintain a proper and safe position while squatting and deadlifting. When getting into a proper (below-parallel) squat or even the proper deadlift position, I cannot keep a safe ("natural") arch in my lower back. Moreover, from prolonged sitting, I had lost the ability to properly activate my glutes and hamstrings, which meant very quad and lower back dominant squats/deadlifts. This wasn't a problem while the weight was light, but once it got just a bit too heavy, the injuries rolled in. Not only did my lower back get hurt, but weak glutes apparently allow the head of the femur to drift into the hip socket and cause pain in the hips as well.

The Solution: Flexibility, Mobility and Hip, Glute and Posterior Chain Activation

Now that I've finally understood the problem, I am working very hard on strengthening my hamstrings, abs and glutes and increasing my flexibility in the lower back, hip flexors, etc. It will probably take a LONG time to really fix the problem (on the order of months), but I'm seeing gradual improvement all the time. Here is the "routine" I've been doing daily:

Before starting any exercise, spend 10-15 minutes warming your body up using a combination of very light exercise (jumping jacks, short jog, push-ups, sit-ups, etc) and the dynamic stretches listed below. The very light exercise gets your heart pumping and warms the muscles up. The dynamic stretches strengthen your joints and muscles over their full range of motion (ROM), which is essential to developing proper flexibility and mobility. I usually alternate a few dynamic stretches each day, doing one set of each stretch for 10-15 reps. A general good practice is to pick 1-2 dynamic exercises per body part, similar to Greg A's Warmup (linked below). I also focus on the "activation" exercises which teach you to use parts of your body that have become weak or dormant due to pelvic tilt, such as the glutes and hamstrings.

After you're done exercising - or, more specifically, when your body is very warmed up and loose - it is safe to do static and PNF stretches listed below. Do NOT do these when your body is cold, as you are likely to injure yourself. The static and PNF stretches are a great way to actually increase your ROM. Most people know how to do static stretches, but the less-well-known PNF stretches, when done properly, are typically far more effective (read a brief overview of PNF stretching here). I typically do 10-15 minutes of static/PNF stretching per day, alternating the specific exercises from day to day. I do one set of each stretch for 10-15 seconds.

Dynamic Stretches

1. Seven Dynamic Stretches to Improve Your Hip Mobility
2. How to Optimize Posterior Chain Power: Glute Activation
3. Greg A's Warmup Routine

Static and PNF Stretches

1. PNF Stretching Illustrations
2. The Home Stretch
3. The only 6 static stretches you should really do
4. Lower Body Stretch
5. Gymnastics stretches

Miscellaneous

1. Awesome video with Dan John teaching lifting technique
2. Squat Rx #1 - first of a great series of instructional videos on squatting, make sure to also check out Squat Rx #2, #3, #4, etc.
 

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After years of constant reading/researching, I am completely on board with the idea that imbalanced pelvis is not just the cause of my knee pain, which has been chronic, but also in many people's bodies. Most people do have an imbalance in their hips or legs from habitual sitting posture, one-side dominance, or what have you and in some people it's quite apparent.

I realize my goals are different now but I stretch and strengthen quite religiously in trying to solve my issues.
 

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Awesome and relevant post. I attended a CrossFit level 1 orientation class last night (not cert just intro) and we spent a lot of time on squat form. I have similar problems with anterior pelvic tilt (desk job, years of sitting at computer all day at job then all night at home for gaming). To get into a proper/safe position to squat/deadlift I realized I have to pull really hard with my core and not squat as low as I have been. I'm going to be working on this. It was impressive to see the position the coach could get into with a natural arch in his lower back (A2G).
 

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Originally posted by: brikis98
For the last couple months, I have been dealing with injuries to my lower back and hips as a result of heavy squatting and deadlifting. It took me a long time to figure out the cause and here I've compiled a small compilation of great resources on this issue that will hopefully be useful to others:

1. Hips Don't Lie: Fixing your Force Couples
2. Seven Dynamic Stretches to Improve Your Hip Mobility
3. How to Optimize Posterior Chain Power: Glute Activation
4. Lordosis: Why it Causes Lower Back Pain
5. Dan John teaches lifting technique

Here's what I learned about myself: when I look at myself in a mirror from the side, I can see that my belt tilts forward - the back of the belt is a bit higher than the front. This is an indicator of what's known as anterior pelvic tilt. It is associated with tight erector spinae, short hip flexors, as well as weaknesses in several muscles - abs, glutes, and hamstrings. The main cause for me was sitting for extended periods of time. I exercise daily, but as a software engineer, sitting is part of my job. I also never took the time to stretch, so my flexibility was terrible.

It turns out that pelvic tilt and lack of flexibility makes it impossible for me to maintain a proper and safe position while squatting and deadlifting. Moreover, from prolonged sitting, I had lost the ability to properly activate my glutes and hamstrings, which meant very quad and lower back dominant squats/deadlifts. This wasn't a problem while the weight was light, but once it got just a bit too heavy, the injuries rolled in. Not only did my lower back get hurt, but weak glutes apparently allow the head of the femur to drift into the hip socket and cause pain in the hips as well.

Now that I've finally understood this, I am working very hard on straightening out my pelvis, strengthening my hamstrings and glutes and increasing my flexibility. My lower back pain is already significantly less and the hip pain has completely gone away. If you're in the same boat, the links above describe how to fix these issues.


I don't fully agree with that statement, in some cases, this may be true, but not all.
In people with developed Glutes, this may just be the way the belt naturally lays, for example i have a big ass, and my boxers, trousers, belts all fall in this manner, the front of my trousers begin just below my obliques, and the back begins at the top of my glutes, creating the appearence of a tilt. I wouldn't agree this isn't an indicator of tightness in the hip area.. It may be in your case, but careful not to mislead people with that.
 

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Originally posted by: gramboh
Awesome and relevant post. I attended a CrossFit level 1 orientation class last night (not cert just intro) and we spent a lot of time on squat form. I have similar problems with anterior pelvic tilt (desk job, years of sitting at computer all day at job then all night at home for gaming). To get into a proper/safe position to squat/deadlift I realized I have to pull really hard with my core and not squat as low as I have been. I'm going to be working on this. It was impressive to see the position the coach could get into with a natural arch in his lower back (A2G).
Yeah I think that despite working out for yeasr, my otherwise completely physical immobility (so basically 23 hours/day of not moving and then 1 hour/day of moving) has fvcked my hips/pelvis and I imagine it's this way for most people. I've actually been working on it for a long time and still when I walk, since I now know what to focus on, can tell there are imbalance issues. Really it's a ah heck to completely sort out.
 

brikis98

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I added some static and PNF stretches to the first post that are a great complement to the exercises and dynamic stretches in the original several links.
 

brikis98

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Several people have PMed me to ask what "routine" I'm actually using to deal with my lower back pain. I tweaked the first post one more time to explain my routine, but it's really nothing too fancy: do 10-15 minutes of dynamic exercises before your workout (1 set of 10-15 reps per exercise) and then do 10-15 minutes of static/PNF stretching after the workout (1 set of 10-15 seconds per stretch).
 

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Interesting. My back has been feeling 'weird' (not in pain, but minute soreness in certain positions) for the past few days. Don't know if I can pin it on running 3 miles for the first time ever (been doing 1.5-2.0 for past few weeks) or the weights the next day. I'll try to stop skipping warm-ups from now on.
 

brikis98

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Originally posted by: Imp
Interesting. My back has been feeling 'weird' (not in pain, but minute soreness in certain positions) for the past few days. Don't know if I can pin it on running 3 miles for the first time ever (been doing 1.5-2.0 for past few weeks) or the weights the next day. I'll try to stop skipping warm-ups from now on.

this is probably another thing worth noting: lower back pain doesn't always happen in one dramatic moment where you just throw out your back. In my experience, it's just as possible to injure your back through repetitive "minor" injuries like the one you're describing.

For example, I would often come back after a workout of heavy squatting and feel ok most of that night (probably because of the adrenaline or endorphines or something). My back would be a bit stiff the next day, but nothing too bad, so I'd ignore it. I'd hit the gym the following day and do some deadlifts. The pain would be slightly worse, but not earth shattering, and I'd ignore it once more. I'd repeat this cycle for 2-3 weeks before the pain got bad enough where bending over to tie my shoes was downright painful.

I tried very hard to keep proper form, but with this pelvic tilt and lack of flexibility, I just couldn't keep the safe arch in the back. The result was a squat and deadlift that put a lot of stress on the lower back. As this is an area notorious for slow healing, it could never quite repair itself fully before the next workout. Over time, the damage built up, and I found myself in a world of pain which will take a long time to recover from.

Moral of the story: if your lower back feels hurt, LISTEN TO IT and give it some rest. Working through the pain, in this case more than any other, is a very bad idea.