Low-Wage Workers Finding It’s Easier to Fall Into Poverty, and Harder to Get Out

[Texashiker]

This is what happens when you CHOOSE not to finish high school.

This is what happens when you CHOOSE not to get education in a field or trade.

While I fully agree 100% with you, people who want job training and higher education need better access.

I am going to use myself as an example. I have 15 years experience in the welding field, but have been out of it for 9 years. With the current job market I thought about going to a trade school to take a refresher class on welding.

To take the welding class I would have to drive close to 1 hour each way. The class is $500 and last one month.

How are people supposed to afford job training when they are barely getting by? I had to put off the class because my wife and I need to put our money to other projects around the house, such as building a new chicken house and chicken yard.

If there was a welding class closer than a 1 hour drive, I would take it. Chances are a lot of people around here would take it.

There are rural areas in this nation were people do not have access to internet, or access to colleges. To get that training and education they would have to relocate. Then moving and the cost of living will take any extra money they make while going to college.

We have a higher education crisis in this nation. We need more colleges and we need more trade schools.

 

[Veliko]

Quoting J.M. Keyes, "But this long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead."

No one cares about the long term, and certainly not the 'haves'.

Yes, that's part of the problem.

 

[glenn1]

You're missing the point entirely.

Whether a particular revolt is explicitly successful or not, it is in everyone's long-term interests for the gap between the rich and the poor to be kept relatively low.

That's an opinion, not a self-evident fact. Some of the most vibrant, creative, and desirable cities in the U.S. are the most unequal - NYC, San Francisco, etc. Pan out to a nation-state level view and China and Russia both have income inequality ratios better than the U.S., are you going to argue that they're better because of it? Or are you making the argument that conflict avoidance is worth any price paid, that we should simply give the lower class whatever they ask for in return for agreeing not to riot and burn their neighborhoods to the ground?

 

[Veliko]

That's an opinion, not a self-evident fact.

It's a self-evident fact that if a country is unstable then life is worse for everyone. An ever-increasing gap between the rich and the poor will lead to instability.

Some of the most vibrant, creative, and desirable cities in the U.S. are the most unequal - NYC, San Francisco, etc.

The nice, rich areas of those cities are desirable, yes.

Pan out to a nation-state level view and China and Russia both have income inequality ratios better than the U.S., are you going to argue that they're better because of it? Or are you making the argument that conflict avoidance is worth any price paid, that we should simply give the lower class whatever they ask for in return for agreeing not to riot and burn their neighborhoods to the ground?

There's plenty of desirable places in China and Russia as well.

However the fact that you have immediately reached out to grab for the extreme examples to try and 'prove' a point speaks volumes for your inability to see things in anything other than absolutes.

 

[drebo]

You're missing the point entirely.

Whether a particular revolt is explicitly successful or not, it is in everyone's long-term interests for the gap between the rich and the poor to be kept relatively low.

Equality through mediocrity.

Marx would be proud.

 

[Veliko]

Equality through mediocrity.

Marx would be proud.

There's plenty of equality in Somalia yet it's the most capitalist place on the planet.

Have we finished with the daftness yet or are we going to carry on?

 

[CitizenKain]

Lol. Whatever.

The "plight" of what poor? The billions of ACTUAL poor people living on pennies a day in truly squalid conditions? Those poor? The real ones?

Or the "plight" of the Excellent First Worlder "poor" who's gone maybe 2 or 3 days of their entire lives dipping below a 2300 calorie diet, that's pissed off because they must suffer the horrific injustice of someone else being rich and too greedy to hand them their First Worlder birthrights: the high paying job with no skills, the corner office, free healthcare and a permanant backstage pass to the rockstar lifestyle... pissed that someone dares tell them none of that shit is free or their fucking birthright and that if they want things they'll actually have to develop skills and do for self... those "poor" people?

Those "poor" people are going to get replaced by the real version who are actually more deserving than they are. I for one welcome it. I'm sick of Excellent First Worlders. A lot of them are useless asshole twits.

The real poor of this world deserve their shot at what their dumbass counterparts in the first world have grown too fat, lazy, stupid and spoiled to recognize and prepare themselves for. Many companies are recognizing this, that a person who strives hard, develops skills and has a good attitude -yet lives in a mud hut- is probably a more deserving job candidate than a spoiled rotten first world retard who expects everything handed to them as a birthright.

Why sit still for it anymore? Its a smaller and smaller world every day. The Excellent First Worlder can go fuck himself- take your job and give it to the third Worlder who strives for and appreciates it...and much more DESERVES it.

Says the spoiled little child talking about how good the poor have it in this country while living off their parents.

 

[Zaap]

While I fully agree 100% with you, people who want job training and higher education need better access.

I am going to use myself as an example. I have 15 years experience in the welding field, but have been out of it for 9 years. With the current job market I thought about going to a trade school to take a refresher class on welding.

To take the welding class I would have to drive close to 1 hour each way. The class is $500 and last one month.

How are people supposed to afford job training when they are barely getting by? I had to put off the class because my wife and I need to put our money to other projects around the house, such as building a new chicken house and chicken yard.

If there was a welding class closer than a 1 hour drive, I would take it. Chances are a lot of people around here would take it.

There are rural areas in this nation were people do not have access to internet, or access to colleges. To get that training and education they would have to relocate. Then moving and the cost of living will take any extra money they make while going to college.

We have a higher education crisis in this nation. We need more colleges and we need more trade schools.

Is this a joke?

Let me get this straight... your poverty story is the incredible injustice of having to drive 1 whole hour in your car that you own, to take a class you could afford, so you instead had to suffer the hardship of adding an addition onto your home that you own.

So far you get the Excellent First Worlder sob story award, although I'm sure some of the helpless mouth-breathing leftloon dipshits in this thread can probably top this.

 

[Zaap]

Says the spoiled little child talking about how good the poor have it in this country while living off their parents.

What's your avatar in The Revolution! going to be? The Medivial Women's Art History major pissed off at the rich?

Whose coming out with this Revolution! game anyway? Activision? Electronic Arts?

I hope it doesn't turn out to be vaporware; entitled little First Worlder dishits have been crowing on about it for 20+ years now, but we're all still waiting. Of course none of the millennials have the skills anymore to make it themselves, but I figure a few of them with a little drive could atleast enlist some Gen X'ers to make it for them. I want to play this damn thing already! It sounds like an awesome distraction for a few minutes atleast.

 

[Zorkorist]

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[CitizenKain]

What's your avatar in The Revolution! going to be? The Medivial Women's Art History major pissed off at the rich?

Whose coming out with this Revolution! game anyway? Activision? Electronic Arts?

I hope it doesn't turn out to be vaporware; entitled little First Worlder dishits have been crowing on about it for 20+ years now, but we're all still waiting. Of course none of the millennials have the skills anymore to make it themselves, but I figure a few of them with a little drive could atleast enlist some Gen X'ers to make it for them. I want to play this damn thing already! It sounds like an awesome distraction for a few minutes atleast.

Its funny seeing ignorant children try to act tough on the internet. Its a good thing you parents are paying for everything, because its pretty obvious you couldn't accomplish shit on your own.

 

[Zaap]

Where's your sob story? I know you've got one that tops TH's "30 Days A Slave (Almost)" yarn.

 

[crashtech]

OP, of course it's easier to fall in a hole than to climb out of one. The reason this simple truism is somehow controversial speaks very poorly to the level of intellectual discourse in America and most of the Western world.