Low performance with ATI 32mb Radeon DDR. Help me out.

Mathias

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Today I got my Radeon in and I was anxious to see what it could do. I did all the right stuff, I even went in the registery and cleaned out everything voodoo, banshee, diamond, all the. I took out the Fusion and put in the Radeon. No probs so far. Downloaded the latest beta drivers and put them on. Then I downloaded powerstrip. First thing I noticed was that the memory clock was at 148! That seems too low to me. I jacked it up to 185 to see if it would work, and it did. I cant move the engine clock at all (is this normal?). I ran 3dmark in the 1024x768 with 32 bit color and came out with around 3100, which is way below what everyone else had at mad onion with my set up. The lowest was 800 points ahead of mine. While it is way faster than my Banshee (My banshee got 2750 at 640x480 in 16 bit color:) ) I am disapointed to see that it running sub-par. Please help me out. Also my rendering speeds were HORRIBLE. In 32 MB I got 10.2 fps, thats some trash.
 

Mathias

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AMD 650mhz Classic Athlon
MSI K7pro
ATI DDR 32md Radeon
128 megs of PC100 Ram
Sony 16" Trinitron
44x Generic CDrom
Win98 with DX8
20 gig 7200 rpm Diamond Max HD
 

kendogg

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Hey you have a similar setup...

If you happen to have q2 installed on your computer would you mind running a timedemo?

if you dont know how just fire up q2, pull down the console, and type:

timedemo 1
map demo1.dm2
 

Mathias

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Well it went up to 80 fps after a few tweaks. 75 fps avg on a voodoo 2? I find that hard to believe when its at 1024x768.
 

Taz4158

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Install THESE settings:
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ATI Technologies\Driver\0000\atidxhal]
"EnableWaitUntilIdxTriList2"="1"
"TableFogEnable"="1"
"WFogEnable"="0"
"ZFogEnable"="1"
"DisableHierarchicalZ"="0"
"DisableHyperZ"="0"
"FastZClearEnabled"="1"
"Vsync"="0"
"AntiAlias"="0"
"ZFormats"="15"
"ExportCompressedTex"="1"
"DitherAlpha"="1"
"ExportWBuffer"="0"
 

BustaCaps

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one thing about overclocking the radeon. the core clock and the memory are synchronized so overclocking the memory and not the core may result in less performance. you should be able to overclock the core in powerstrip, i did on my radeon. also, go to the advanced properties and make sure you disable vertial sync and anti-aliasing because they totally kill your FPS.

10 fps doesnt sound like its workin properly.
good luck man and let me know how it goes
 

Mathias

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Ok. I finally got mad and reformatted my Hard Drive. Now I am getting around 3750 in 1024x768 in 32 bit color. Its better, but still at the bottom of the 3d mark listings in my category. It seems I am having big problems when it comes to 32 and 64 mb texture rendering. While everyone gets at least 70 fps in 32 mb, I am getting around 10. Not only that, it seems that my card (when I compare) is doing good in low detail when compared to others, but in high detail slacks off. Not only that, in the other test like the Bump mapping and lights test I am doing better than somebody with 4400 3dmarks. I really dont know whats going on, but fixing it would rock :)
 

Mathias

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Check this out. When I use anything but D3D Hardware T&L I get over 200 fps in 32mb texture rendering speed, but when I use The hardwar T&L It gets real choppy and gives me 10 fps. Problems with the video card physically? Should I return it?
 

Hawk

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The Radeon's hardware T&L doesn't perform well in 3dmark, just try running another game/benchmark.
 

Mathias

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I understand that, but why are people getting way better scores using D3d Hardware T&L using the same setup as me???
 

Mathias

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I really call it more luck than skill, but I think I figured out what was wrong. I downloaded the latest AGP stuff from the AMD for my motherboard (K7pro) and put the latest official drivers from ATI (although I dont think it had much to do with the drivers). I then messed around with powerstrip and figured out something was up with my agp port. I was messing around with settings and somehow I hit the right ones. I also figured out I was not getting AGPx2. Anyways my framerate in Quake 2 (1024x768) went from 79 fps to 121fps and my 3dmarks went from 3700 to 4350.
 

kendogg

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hey mathias got any suggestions for me? Running classic athlon 700mhz on ABIT KA7

Ok i am gonna try installing new drivers for my agp port can somebody please assist me.

I am confused as to weather I dl the ABIT, AMD, or VIA drivers? Please guide me.
 

Mathias

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Ok, go ahead and get the newest version of powerstrip (3.0 beta). From there you need to download the newest AMD Athlon AGP drivers for your motherboard (it wont be the same as mine). I can give you a link to the page I got mine from (its at the bottom) to get an idea what it is link. Now on powerstrip is where I got kinda lucky fooling around, but I will try to explain what I did. You go to options then Adapter info. In there on the left side from the top I have only hardware enabled checked off. Transfer mechanism is DMA. I have both pipeline depth and sidebanding checked off. I have x2 transfer rate checked off. The only problem now is that everytime the computer restarts I have to re-overclock the card, which is really not a big deal for me since its a simple slide.
 

oldfart

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Mathias, are you 100% sure on the 143 thing? I had a friend (not PC savvy) order one of these z-buy cards. If its 143, I'm going to have him send it back. I dont want him to have to use powerstrip just to get it to 166 where it should be anyway. The site clearly advertises it as a 166/166 card. What ram does it have? 6ns?
 

BFG10K

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You really should reformat your HD and re-install Windows when moving to different video cards.

I got 77 fps on average at 1024x768.

Just for reference, I get ~68 FPS in Quake 2 at 1024 x 768 x 16 with my Voodoo 3.