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Low Information Voters

lopri

lopri

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I was reading the comments on Camille Pagila's "endorsement" of The Duck @Salon.com, and ran into this little news item.

Ted Cruz calls out Trump’s “low information voters” : They don’t realize “he is what they are angry at”

“He does well with a certain demographic of voter,” Cruz told Christian Broadcast Network’s David Brody in a new interview, explaining the Trump phenomenon. “Donald gave a press conference where he said, to quote him, ‘I love the poorly educated,'” Cruz noted.

“Donald does well with voters who have relatively low information, who are not that engaged and who are angry and they see him as an angry voice. Where we are beating him is when voters’ get more engaged and they get more informed,” Cruz told Brody. “Listen, part of it is I think Donald is taking advantage of his voters because I understand what they’re angry about”
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Well.

I have been refraining from using this particular term to denote a certain electorate because they seem offended by it (which is a little more than strange because they say they are resolutely against the so-called "Political Correctness") but I am guessing I was overly sensitive. After all, Ted Cruz, the scorched-earth conservative and a devout Christian, does not appear to have any qualm about it. It cannot be that offensive, right?
 
lopri said:
I was reading the comments on Camille Pagila's "endorsement" of The Duck @Salon.com, and ran into this little news item.

Ted Cruz calls out Trump’s “low information voters” : They don’t realize “he is what they are angry at”



Well.

I have been refraining from using this particular term to denote a certain electorate because they seem offended by it (which is a little more than strange because they say they are resolutely against the so-called "Political Correctness") but I am guessing I was overly sensitive. After all, Ted Cruz, the scorched-earth conservative and a devout Christian, does not appear to have any qualm about it. It cannot be that offensive, right?
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I think the whole things crazy. The Republican party's establishment answer to save themselves is to back Cruz?. I'm having trouble keeping my fingers on the keyboard laughing about it.
 
I'd think of them more as low tolerance for continued BS voters. That immediately rules out Billary and the other Rep candidates sans Trump. It is why you see Bernie have crossover from right leaning and even just outright Right voters, when any past election he'd be completely laughed at.

Trump is seen as truthful because he actually makes an effort to address topics the other BS candidates won't (notably for me at least, illegal invasion), and doesn't kowtow to troublemakers (aka doesn't try to appease people there who are there to intentionally cause disruption, which is seen as incredibly rude and tactless). Whether Trump is actually accurate in what he says or not, remains to be seen.
 
lopri said:
I was reading the comments on Camille Pagila's "endorsement" of The Duck @Salon.com, and ran into this little news item.

Ted Cruz calls out Trump’s “low information voters” : They don’t realize “he is what they are angry at”



Well.

I have been refraining from using this particular term to denote a certain electorate because they seem offended by it (which is a little more than strange because they say they are resolutely against the so-called "Political Correctness") but I am guessing I was overly sensitive. After all, Ted Cruz, the scorched-earth conservative and a devout Christian, does not appear to have any qualm about it. It cannot be that offensive, right?
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Cruz has a point about Trump being Establishment. What billionaire isn't? He owns almost 500 companies. If you're really mad at the Establishment in general he's obviously part of it.

Trump's gut level pitch makes 'em forget all of that. He's ringing their bells at an attitudinal & emotional level well below any sort of rational thought, a level where information is more of a nuisance than anything else.
 
hal2kilo said:
I think the whole things crazy. The Republican party's establishment answer to save themselves is to back Cruz?. I'm having trouble keeping my fingers on the keyboard laughing about it.
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It is really a dilemma not just for the Establishment but also moderate Republicans. Which one do you choose when the choices are 1) Nazi Regime and 2) Spanish Inquisition?
 
chucky2 said:
I'd think of them more as low tolerance for continued BS voters. That immediately rules out Billary and the other Rep candidates sans Trump. It is why you see Bernie have crossover from right leaning and even just outright Right voters, when any past election he'd be completely laughed at.

Trump is seen as truthful because he actually makes an effort to address topics the other BS candidates won't (notably for me at least, illegal invasion), and doesn't kowtow to troublemakers (aka doesn't try to appease people there who are there to intentionally cause disruption, which is seen as incredibly rude and tactless). Whether Trump is actually accurate in what he says or not, remains to be seen.
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I consider them low tolerance for complete objective reality voters.

They've finally woken up to the fact that Republican tax cuts for the richest people in the solar system doesn't trickle down. That the old adage of "rising tides lift all boats" really means "rising tides lifts all yachts".

But, after people wake up, or leave the denial stage, the typical first response is anger, which I see in the typical Trump voter.

Anger is usually followed by bargaining, which in this case occurs alongside the anger.

The base is out of the denial stage, but angry at the people who've lied to them, and bargaining that a Strongman will be able to deliver them to prosperity, or, be able to..."Make America Great Again".

Of course, the next stage is generally depression, as in, whether Trump gets passed over at the convention, gets the nomination and loses the general, or gets elected and proves to have been nothing but a conman, the base will be depressed that the loudest man in the room wasn't necessarily the one they should have put in charge.

Perhaps later will come acceptance, when they realize that the things that the dirty hippies whined and bitched about for the past 30 years, was in fact a decent representation of objective reality, and that they, the Republican base voters, were lied to, believed it, and used as a tool for tax cuts and Keynesian military spending.

Just kidding!

Trump is going to get elected President, make Mexico pay for a wall along a 2000+ mile-long border, deport 10+ million illegal immigrants, bomb ISIS into the ground, and bring back $15 dollar an hour blue-collar jobs for anyone willing to do the work!!

#Trump2016

Because anger and bargaining inherently come before the depression and acceptance stages of objective reality.
 
If faced with Trump or Cruz I'd have to go with Trump. With Trump it's hard to know what what madness he speaks he actually believes in. We could be looking at 50/50 odds of getting really fucked. With Cruz we know we're getting fucked. What policy isn't dictated by his big donors will be dictated by religion. Faced with a high chance of being screwed versus a guaranteed chance I opt for the former.

Though it is curious. With low education, many go for Trump. With more education, people go with Cruz. And with more education and scrutiny still, many on this board are grudgingly gravitating back to Trump, as the least bad of universally bad Republican candidates.
 
^ I think I might as well go with The Duck, too. And pray the separation of powers will work out as the founders envisioned. The Grand Inquisitor will pursue ideological purity under the guise of the Constitution's blessing.
 
Sonikku said:
If faced with Trump or Cruz I'd have to go with Trump. With Trump it's hard to know what what madness he speaks he actually believes in. We could be looking at 50/50 odds of getting really fucked. With Cruz we know we're getting fucked. What policy isn't dictated by his big donors will be dictated by religion. Faced with a high chance of being screwed versus a guaranteed chance I opt for the former.

Though it is curious. With low education, many go for Trump. With more education, people go with Cruz. And with more education and scrutiny still, many on this board are grudgingly gravitating back to Trump, as the least bad of universally bad Republican candidates.
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I probably have more education than many of you. Trump is the least bad of not only the Republican candidates, but the Dems as well. I think Bernie is more likable but you know what's more likable than that? 10% more money kept in my wallet. So Trump.
 
SP33Demon said:
I probably have more education than many of you. Trump is the least bad of not only the Republican candidates, but the Dems as well. I think Bernie is more likable but you know what's more likable than that? 10% more money kept in my wallet. So Trump.
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I'm shielding myself from your head exploding.😵
 
lopri said:
^ I think I might as well go with The Duck, too. And pray the separation of powers will work out as the founders envisioned. The Grand Inquisitor will pursue ideological purity under the guise of the Constitution's blessing.
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Because you can't trust Hillary because of all the shit flung at her for decades, right?
 
nickqt said:
I consider them low tolerance for complete objective reality voters. snip
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It is so interesting the minds of the Intellectuals. Sometimes I wonder if you all believe what you post, or, if it's in a binder to quote from. Wait...Macro disappeared after Bummer replaced Bush, maybe that's where he's been while Bummer continued Bush's policies! D:
 
chucky2 said:
It is so interesting the minds of the Intellectuals. Sometimes I wonder if you all believe what you post, or, if it's in a binder to quote from. Wait...Macro disappeared after Bummer replaced Bush, maybe that's where he's been while Bummer continued Bush's policies! D:
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Oh, I see.

You're confusing me for someone who didn't know at the time that Obama was just a socially-liberal 70s era Republican.

Gotcha.
 
See the irony? Immediately offended, your first intuition goes to an (imaginary) violence.

I mean, I thought you guys wanted to be able to tell it like it is without being shunned by social norms or peer pressure. Why would you not extend that curtesy to those who you do not agree with, or those who have something "Politically Incorrect" to say about you?

Besides which, "low information voters" is not even a "Politically Incorrect" thing to say, according to Cruz. (your guy) He talks very matter-of-factly about it.
 
When your Policy consists of being: 1) "Great again"; 2) "Best"; 3) and little else; You're pretty much counting on Low Information Voters. Or perhaps voters so pissed off they no longer give a shit.
 
Trump has provided no information, to anyone, in all of his rallies and official campaign platform. He gives zero information.

Who else is he supposed to be preaching to? They are, by default, low information because he provides none.
 
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