Question Low-end / mid-range gaming, Athlon 3000G or 3300X, with GTX 1650 D5 ITX GPU?

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VirtualLarry

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There's this MSI RX 570 8GB for ~$120 AR @ Newegg, only take a 6-pin PCI-E power connector, suggested PSU wattage 450W.


Then there's this ASRock RX 5500 XT 8GB card for ~$190, no rebate.


Which would be better for lower-end gaming, possible in a rig with a G3258 @ 4.0-4.2Ghz, with 8GB of DDR3, SSD.

What kind of games would I be able to play with that sort of rig? Anything modern at all? Apex Legends? Fortnight?
 
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Magic Carpet

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My question is, what CPU are they referring to, by "2 core Pentium CPU"? Are they talking about the G3258 there, or something newer, like a Skylake G4400, or even a 2C/4T Kaby or Coffee Lake?
Even an ancient Intel Core 2 Duo will run Fortnite at playable fps. Youtube it.
 

VirtualLarry

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Even an ancient Intel Core 2 Duo will run Fortnite at playable fps. Youtube it.
Then why was my buddy, complaining about "stuttering" in Fortnite, making the game "unusable", with a G4560 2C/4T 3.5Ghz Kaby Lake, Radeon 260X 2GB GDDR5, 8GB DDR4, and an SSD.

He did have it hooked up via wifi, somehow. I told him to wire it (router is in same room, even gave him a free ethernet cable), he never bothered.
 

VirtualLarry

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LTT did a video on a Dell with an i5-3770, and upgrading it to be a Gaming PC, alone with benchmarks for the i5-3770, and a GTX 1650, and a GTX 1660 ti.

 

VirtualLarry

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Well, Newegg had some "Factory Refurb" Gigabyte-brand GTX 1650 4GB GDDR5 cards, some ITX single-fan models for $119.99, and some dual-fan (with triple HDMI 2.0 ports, even!), for $129.99. Also an MSI Ventus GTX 1650 (no PCI-E power), and some GTX 1660 ti 6GB cards for $239.99 (dual-fan).

I didn't see the GTX 1660 ti cards off-hand, otherwise, I might have bought a couple of them, but I ended up getting like 4x GTX 1650 card, for between $120-$130 (plus tax). So I will be well-stocked for entry-level budget gamer builds. (Bringing back up my two ITX mobos with G3258 CPUs, they would probably be perfectly-good Fortnite boxes with GTX 1650 cards in them. I hope. :) )

If not, then I've got parts to build a pair of AMD AM4 Athlon 3000G (unlocked 2C/4T APU), overclock those to 4Ghz, drop in GTX 1650, should make a decent gamer box, if entry-level, for e-sports / Fortnite / etc. if the g3258 boards don't cut it.
 

VirtualLarry

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If not, then I've got parts to build a pair of AMD AM4 Athlon 3000G (unlocked 2C/4T APU), overclock those to 4Ghz, drop in GTX 1650, should make a decent gamer box, if entry-level, for e-sports / Fortnite / etc. if the g3258 boards don't cut it.
Can anyone with experience comment on my plans? Is a 3000G, CPU-wise only, "enough" for Fortnite, etc.? How does a 2C/4T Athlon 3000G (preferably @ 4.0Ghz, but I'm not sure I can get there yet, haven't tried, and probably using the stock (65W?) heatsink, compare to a 4C/4T Haswell i5-4570/4590/4670/4690? For things like e-sports and Fortnite? (What's the new one, Apex Legends? How does that play with 2C/4T Zen+ Athlon, versus 4C/4T Haswell quad?) Both of these CPUs would be combined with my factory-refurb ITX-style GTX 1650 D5 4GB cards.

Or should I wait until I can afford a pair of 3300X 4C/8T 4.3Ghz Zen2 CPUs for those rigs? (I'm building two of them.) I think that those CPUs can scale up to an RTX 2080, potentially, and might be overkill for a GTX 1650 D5 card. Then again, they would be more future-proof, should the buyer of one of my rigs decide to drop in another GPU. (But the 3300X is another can-o-worms, sort of, because it's nearly to the price of a 3600, which is arguably WAY better, for another $35 or so for a 6C/12T CPU.)