Loved Oblivion, haven't played Morrowind

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I was thinking of picking up the GotY edition of Morrowind to give it a whirl. Will I enjoy it as much as Oblivion?
 

Schadenfroh

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Morrowind requires slightly more thought than Oblivion (no point and click fast travel, waypoints of teleportation (mage guilds), ships, and silt striders only), your quest objective is usually not marked on your map, you will have to find objectives from (sometimes vague) descriptions people give you, I enjoyed it more, story is superior as is the dialog, be prepared to actually read :Q.
 

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Morrowind requires slightly more thought than Oblivion (no point and click fast travel, waypoints of teleportation (mage guilds), ships, and silt striders only), your quest objective is usually not marked on your map, you will have to find objectives from (sometimes vague) descriptions people give you, I enjoyed it more, story is superior as is the dialog, be prepared to actually read :Q.

That and if you can get over its dated gfx. Well they was killer for its time but it just depends if gfx was a big plus for you with playing Oblivion.
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: Ultralight
Whatever you do make sure you patch it.

Yeh, I think there is even an unofficial patch for it, I cant count the amount of times that I have fallen through the map in it. Save often.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
I was thinking of picking up the GotY edition of Morrowind to give it a whirl. Will I enjoy it as much as Oblivion?

i am exactly the same position ... i spent over 1,250 hours in Oblivion but i can't even pick it back up again to finish KoT9 ... hate to get 'into' MW that way. ... i heard it is even more *addicting* :p

since i am now *trading games* ... i might be tempted to give it a try

Graphics are not a Huge issue for me ... although i prefer the *latest* ;)
 

gamepad

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Morrowind requires slightly more thought than Oblivion (no point and click fast travel, waypoints of teleportation (mage guilds), ships, and silt striders only), your quest objective is usually not marked on your map, you will have to find objectives from (sometimes vague) descriptions people give you, I enjoyed it more, story is superior as is the dialog, be prepared to actually read :Q.

That part made me HATE Morrowind. There were a couple quests that took forever to find. I never bothered to finish the game.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: gamepad
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Morrowind requires slightly more thought than Oblivion (no point and click fast travel, waypoints of teleportation (mage guilds), ships, and silt striders only), your quest objective is usually not marked on your map, you will have to find objectives from (sometimes vague) descriptions people give you, I enjoyed it more, story is superior as is the dialog, be prepared to actually read :Q.

That part made me HATE Morrowind. There were a couple quests that took forever to find. I never bothered to finish the game.

that's when i *swallow* my pride .. Big Gulp! - and look at a walkthru
:D

SOMETIMES the clues are SO obscure - or Quests even *bugged* so you look for solutions that are *not there* or need a console workaround [as happened to me in Oblivion]

generally, i did not look at the Oblivion 'cheat' map or fast travel ... for the first 500 or so hours ... and didn't cheat or use the console to advance to Level 92 where i could not "improve upon perfection ... all your abilities are as far as they can go" ...
after that first thousand hours ... mods ... cheats ... anything goes
:Q

 

DaveSimmons

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There are mods to replace the ugly character models though I didn't try them myself.

Levitation is nifty.

Enchantments are more interesting since for most of the game clothing and armor enchantments are charge-based like weapons BUT you don't have to finish a set of quests before you can enchant anything. And low-quality items aren't good enough to hold major enchantments. Items recharge themselves over time.

Soul-hunting is a good way to earn cash.
 

shortylickens

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Well, you know how we just had the thread asking if the strategy guide was needed to beat Oblivion?

I'll tell you right now: GET the Morrowind strategy guide.

That game might not be as pretty, but its ten times more complicated, and it doesnt hold your hand either.
You should be able to pick up the GOTY guide for the same price as the GOTY game itself.
 

imported_Imp

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It's great, but after playing Oblivion, I don't think I could go back. Morrowind needs a lot more 'imagination' as you aren't fed any cool scripts/voice overs. Most NPCs do is wander around, mumble the same two lines instead of 20-ish in Oblivion. Fighting system is button mashing. However, there's no level scaling so it is incredibly awesome to spend a few hours taking down a guy in steel armor so you feel like you're the king of the jailhouse. Finally, Daedric armour is more rare than rare. Each piece is one of a kind (kinda). Hope you get the Game of the Year or whatever compilation with Bloodmoon and Tribunal. Both are very good expansions.
 

MustISO

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I tried to play it after playing Oblivion. I just couldn't do it. The graphics/control were just crappy. I'm sure it's a good game but I just couldn't play it.
 

Mem

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Morrowind game of the year version is more then worth the price,btw if you want some nice free house mods,check this site out, can have your own castle too ;).


Oblivion is only superior to Morrowind in one area and that's graphics,in all other areas Morrowind is the king.
 

Pocatello

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Morrowind requires slightly more thought than Oblivion (no point and click fast travel, waypoints of teleportation (mage guilds), ships, and silt striders only), your quest objective is usually not marked on your map, you will have to find objectives from (sometimes vague) descriptions people give you, I enjoyed it more, story is superior as is the dialog, be prepared to actually read :Q.

I really like Morrowind for those reasons. One of the most memorable and rewarding game I've played.
 

Kromis

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Originally posted by: MustISO
I tried to play it after playing Oblivion. I just couldn't do it. The graphics/control were just crappy. I'm sure it's a good game but I just couldn't play it.

I know...I feel you, brother!

God...I just couldn't take it!!!!

But here's the thing (I think):

People who've played Morrowind first will find it better than Oblivion and vice versa.
 

DaveSimmons

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For those who can't stand Morrowind graphics, did you try the user model/texture mods? (Better Bodies, Better Heads, Visual Pack)?
 

TheRyuu

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Yea, Morrowind is a good game, just make sure to get the mods which are almost essential just as they are essential in Oblivion too.

Mods you must have:
All the Patches
Better Bodies
Combined Texture Pack 3.0 (or w/e the name of it is)
Modman's Windowlights (the old Illumination Within for Morrowind)

Beyond that, not much is "required" although a lot of the different mods add good gameplay to the game.
I have to admit though, Oblivion has far more "required" mods then Morrowind for some reason, and the Oblivion mods seem to be a hell of a lot bigger too.

And don't expect too much out of the combat system in Morrowind either.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
For those who can't stand Morrowind graphics, did you try the user model/texture mods? (Better Bodies, Better Heads, Visual Pack)?

see 'those' would be the *same people* who also use the user model/texture mods? (Better Bodies, Better Heads, Visual Pack)--for Oblivion!
:Q

for them MW simply won't do :p
--it is pretty ugly

 

Smilin

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
I was thinking of picking up the GotY edition of Morrowind to give it a whirl. Will I enjoy it as much as Oblivion?

The underlying gameplay is very very strong. As much as oblivion? Dunno. If you like Oblivion you'll definately like morrowwind though. Cuz let's face it... once the ooh-aaahh of the graphics fades Oblivion still had a great core game. Morrowwind does too.
 

Crafty35a

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I agree witih a couple of other posters. The actual gameplay is Morrowind is great, much stronger than Oblivion in my opinion. Oblivion is obviously much prettier though. If you can get past that, and don't mind a game that requires a little more thinking/searching than Oblivion, you'll love Morrowind.
 

PingSpike

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I'm sorry. While I enjoyed morrowind during its time, it sucks compared to Oblivion. Even with Oblivions screwed up leveling. (Which is an easy fix)

Morrowind combat is shat. Do you like clicking and standing still, while missing your swings 9 times out of 10? Good, because thats all you need to do!

NPCs have virtually no AI to speak of. They mill about their designated area waiting for the player to arrive. They don't need to eat or sleep. They don't do anything. Guards will kill cliff racers if they wander into town (btw, there's 5000 cliff racers in every cell and they all have blight and want to eat you) but if you're being murder by an assassin in the middle of town in broad daylight, thats outside of their juristiction.

Monsters/NPCs cannot follow you through cells. The world is broken into chunks and everyone but the player is trapped in their designated chunk unless a script teleports them or something.

Enchantments blow. Prepare to have piles of enchanted pants that do 2 fire damage when used. Good enchantments cost roughly all the gold in the universe to make. Constant effect enchantments cost all the gold in the universe times 2 and an expedition to capture a soul of one of a couple of specific and fairly rare creatures. The only enchantments that are really useful are constant effect. Self made enchantments gain no value whatsoever from the process, therefore you can't even make money enchanting a pair of trousers with a crappy spell and selling it. The enchanting skill is therefore in the catagory of 'useless' along with several others like unarmored.

The quests are usually pretty lame.

The cells load slower then Oblivion on the same PC...I don't know how the hell that works since they use the same game engine.


Morrowind was interesting for its time, but the fact is Oblivion fixed almost everything that sucked about it. Morrowind does have a better interface for the PC, a cooler armor system and a bit more outlandish world. (Armor made out of bone and chitin is a nice change of pace from the traditional fantasy stuff)
 

Mem

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
I'm sorry. While I enjoyed morrowind during its time, it sucks compared to Oblivion. Even with Oblivions screwed up leveling. (Which is an easy fix)

Morrowind combat is shat. Do you like clicking and standing still, while missing your swings 9 times out of 10? Good, because thats all you need to do!

NPCs have virtually no AI to speak of. They mill about their designated area waiting for the player to arrive. They don't need to eat or sleep. They don't do anything. Guards will kill cliff racers if they wander into town (btw, there's 5000 cliff racers in every cell and they all have blight and want to eat you) but if you're being murder by an assassin in the middle of town in broad daylight, thats outside of their juristiction.

Monsters/NPCs cannot follow you through cells. The world is broken into chunks and everyone but the player is trapped in their designated chunk unless a script teleports them or something.

Enchantments blow. Prepare to have piles of enchanted pants that do 2 fire damage when used. Good enchantments cost roughly all the gold in the universe to make. Constant effect enchantments cost all the gold in the universe times 2 and an expedition to capture a soul of one of a couple of specific and fairly rare creatures. The only enchantments that are really useful are constant effect. Self made enchantments gain no value whatsoever from the process, therefore you can't even make money enchanting a pair of trousers with a crappy spell and selling it. The enchanting skill is therefore in the catagory of 'useless' along with several others like unarmored.

The quests are usually pretty lame.

The cells load slower then Oblivion on the same PC...I don't know how the hell that works since they use the same game engine.


Morrowind was interesting for its time, but the fact is Oblivion fixed almost everything that sucked about it. Morrowind does have a better interface for the PC, a cooler armor system and a bit more outlandish world. (Armor made out of bone and chitin is a nice change of pace from the traditional fantasy stuff)



Problem with Oblivon is you can easy see it was designed for console players rather then PC owners,with Morrowind you had to use your brain in finding stuff and had no built-in satellite navigation to the quest marker etc...which I liked and made it more realistic in exploration etc...the world in Morrowind is bigger to me IMHO with exp packs,story 10 times better and longer,loads of great mods and even by todays standards the graphics still look decent.Combat in Morrowind was not that bad,the more you fight the more experience you get with that particular weapon or magic skill,sure expect to miss a lot of times in the beginning until you have a much higher skill that you can actually hit more often then you miss.The game of year version has both expansion packs and that has some very nice quests,infact I'm still finding quests in Morrowind,while in Oblivion I'm finding it hard to find one new one at the moment.

House mods in Morrowind are awesome to say the least.I actually died more times in Morrowind then I ever did in Oblivion,daedric armour requires a lot more exploring and time to find in Morrowind (much rarer) ,in Oblivion you can easy find it "like it was growing on trees in some particular areas ."

Game of the year version is at such a great price ,and the value and hours worth of playing time you get with that is well worth the money and much more.