Louisiana run offs net 1 Senate and 2 House

[imported_tajmahal]

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others, right?

It's the way the Constitution was set up. There is a way to change it if you'd like.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's the way the Constitution was set up. There is a way to change it if you'd like.

Trump's win is one of those unintended consequences, like this-

 

[Meghan54]

Sorry, i was educated by a union instructor in a public school. I'd like to see a reliable citation on murder rates. That is murder btw, not suicide.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-4

BTW...the South is the most dangerous region for murder and damned near every violent crime. Why? Gun proliferation, poverty, decreasing money/resources for law enforcement (tax cuts galore down south--damn the consequences).

The top nine states with the highest murder rates per 100,000, in order:

Louisiana
Mississippi
Maryland
South Carolina
Alaska
Alabama
Nevada
Tennessee
Georgia

Yeah, lotta solid blue states there.....

 

[imported_tajmahal]

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-4

BTW...the South is the most dangerous region for murder and damned near every violent crime. Why? Gun proliferation, poverty, decreasing money/resources for law enforcement (tax cuts galore down south--damn the consequences).

The top nine states with the highest murder rates per 100,000, in order:

Louisiana
Mississippi
Maryland
South Carolina
Alaska
Alabama
Nevada
Tennessee
Georgia

Yeah, lotta solid blue states there.....

Thanks, that seems to be every likely reason for the high murder rates.

 

[JSt0rm]

You just resent the hell out of the fact that their vote counted more for the win then yours did.

kind of alarming that a degenerate low iq poor gene pool person's vote is worth more then anyone from a city.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

kind of alarming that a degenerate low iq poor gene pool person's vote is worth more then anyone from a city.

Yeah, damn those stinking peons and working poor shit kickers that think they might actually be just as good and worthy people as you are.

 

[JSt0rm]

Yeah, damn those stinking peons and working poor shit kickers that think they might actually be just as good and worthy people as you are.

their vote is worth more then mine. thats what your initial point was and now we are equal? No. Everyones vote should count the same.

 

[PokerGuy]

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-4

BTW...the South is the most dangerous region for murder and damned near every violent crime. Why? Gun proliferation, poverty, decreasing money/resources for law enforcement (tax cuts galore down south--damn the consequences).

The top nine states with the highest murder rates per 100,000, in order:

Louisiana
Mississippi
Maryland
South Carolina
Alaska
Alabama
Nevada
Tennessee
Georgia

Yeah, lotta solid blue states there.....

Again with the "blue state" stupidity. When you call something a "blue state" or a "red state", it just means the majority of voters from that state voted one way or another. That doesn't tell you a thing about how those voters are split. Louisiana is a "red state", but I'm confident the vast majority of murders there happen in solidly blue sections of the state. Factors like poverty, drug use, economic opportunity, education etc are much more meaningful than "red state" "blue state" in this context.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

their vote is worth more then mine. thats what your initial point was and now we are equal? No. Everyones vote should count the same.

Due to the way the Senate is elected they'll always have more influence then you............. unless you manage to amend the Constitution.

 

[bshole]

Again with the "blue state" stupidity. When you call something a "blue state" or a "red state", it just means the majority of voters from that state voted one way or another. That doesn't tell you a thing about how those voters are split. Louisiana is a "red state", but I'm confident the vast majority of murders there happen in solidly blue sections of the state. Factors like poverty, drug use, economic opportunity, education etc are much more meaningful than "red state" "blue state" in this context.

But red state voters actively attack funding for schools, push religion into public schools, attack science in education, restrict abortions, push down wages, etc.... through their votes. Aren't the problems that red states have a direct result of their own actions?

 

[Brainonska511]

But red state voters actively attack funding for schools, push religion into public schools, attack science in education, restrict abortions, push down wages, etc.... through their votes. Aren't the problems that red states have a direct result of their own actions?

The Party of Personal Responsibility™ taking responsibility for the effects of their policies? LOL.

 

[Jhhnn]

But red state voters actively attack funding for schools, push religion into public schools, attack science in education, restrict abortions, push down wages, etc.... through their votes. Aren't the problems that red states have a direct result of their own actions?

Their problems will only get worse once Repubs have their way because those states are recipients of more federal money than they put in through taxes-

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...tates-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

Which is not a complaint on my part but rather to point out the self destructive nature of the culture war they wage. W/o federal dollars the economies in some of the poorest parts of this country would collapse entirely.

It sometimes turns into a proud to be ignorant sort of thing.

 

[PokerGuy]

The Party of Personal Responsibility™ taking responsibility for the effects of their policies? LOL.

But red state voters actively attack funding for schools, push religion into public schools, attack science in education, restrict abortions, push down wages, etc.... through their votes. Aren't the problems that red states have a direct result of their own actions?

Oh yes, of course, it's the conservative voters that created all the highest crime/murder places even though just about all those places have been under lib control forever. Yup, makes sense

 

[Jhhnn]

Oh yes, of course, it's the conservative voters that created all the highest crime/murder places even though just about all those places have been under lib control forever. Yup, makes sense

Truthiness! See #28 above, but be careful not to burn your eyes out...

 

[bshole]

Oh yes, of course, it's the conservative voters that created all the highest crime/murder places even though just about all those places have been under lib control forever. Yup, makes sense

I guess we disagree on the facts then. Could you explain why the data below is not reflective of reality? Do you have data that refutes it?

The top nine states with the highest murder rates per 100,000, in order:

Louisiana - RED
Mississippi - RED
Maryland - RED
South Carolina -RED
Alaska - RED
Alabama - RED
Nevada
Tennessee - RED
Georgia - RED

 

[Svnla]

Their problems will only get worse once Repubs have their way because those states are recipients of more federal money than they put in through taxes-

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...tates-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

Which is not a complaint on my part but rather to point out the self destructive nature of the culture war they wage. W/o federal dollars the economies in some of the poorest parts of this country would collapse entirely.

It sometimes turns into a proud to be ignorant sort of thing.

Before you pull out the same ole line of "look at them poors and how us give them all the money", read this.

For years, now, Louisiana and other Gulf States have been asking for a larger share of the tax revenues from offshore drilling. Louisiana currently receives just a small portion, about $40 million last year out of some five billion dollars in total tax revenue. Governor Blanco's letter to the Department of the Interior comes, as a next round of offshore oil leases is due to be signed next month. While the governor isn't objecting to this round of leases, she raises the possibility that she may in the future; pointing to, quote, "The growing tension between uncompensated support for offshore drilling and the state's coastal management program."

Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu, like Blanco, a Democrat, is trying to build congressional support for a proposal that would give Louisiana the same 50 percent share that Western States get from oil revenue. At a time when there bans on offshore drilling everywhere in the country, Landrieu says in Louisiana, there's growing frustration.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5205346

Should Louisiana and Gulf States get $2.5 billion dollars? Where are all the chantings of "equality for all"? Totally collapse you said?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

But red state voters actively attack funding for schools, push religion into public schools, attack science in education, restrict abortions, push down wages, etc.... through their votes. Aren't the problems that red states have a direct result of their own actions?

Of course we attack some funding for schools, it's our damn money and we want control on how it's taken and how it's used.
It's our religion, of course we care about it and want it in our lives.
Some science is junk science, we support the scientific method and proper skepticism.
While I support up to 3rd trimester abortions other disagree, why do you think your view is right?
Push down wages?

 

[PokerGuy]

Truthiness! See #28 above, but be careful not to burn your eyes out...

I guess we disagree on the facts then. Could you explain why the data below is not reflective of reality? Do you have data that refutes it?

Looking at the state level (blue state vs red state) doesn't make any sense when much of the political power is actually controlled at the local level. The repubs got Michigan to turn "red" by a few thousand votes this election. Trying to blame republicans for the crime in Detroit when the R's have not held power in Detroit for 40 years makes absolutely no sense. If you want to evaluate something logically you're going to have to look at it a more granular level than by red state / blue state.

 

[bshole]

Of course we attack some funding for schools, it's our damn money and we want control on how it's taken and how it's used.
It's our religion, of course we care about it and want it in our lives.
Some science is junk science, we support the scientific method and proper skepticism.
While I support up to 3rd trimester abortions other disagree, why do you think your view is right?
Push down wages?

It was actually the stats of conservative states vs liberal states that made me more progressive than I once was. It really is difficult to argue that objectively speaking conservative states are faring better than progressive states, the data speaks for itself. What is really scary is that science denialism has gotten so bad within certain segments of the conservative population that some are turning against vaccinations..... that is just mind-blowing irrationality.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

It was actually the stats of conservative states vs liberal states that made me more progressive than I once was. It really is difficult to argue that objectively speaking conservative states are faring better than progressive states, the data speaks for itself. What is really scary is that science denialism has gotten so bad within certain segments of the conservative population that some are turning against vaccinations..... that is just mind-blowing irrationality.

It's mostly liberals/progressives that are anti-vaccers, not conservatives. Not that they're not exceptions.
http://www.realclearscience.com/jou...r_conservatives_more_anti-vaccine_108905.html

 

[Svnla]

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-4

BTW...the South is the most dangerous region for murder and damned near every violent crime. Why? Gun proliferation, poverty, decreasing money/resources for law enforcement (tax cuts galore down south--damn the consequences).

The top nine states with the highest murder rates per 100,000, in order:

Louisiana
Mississippi
Maryland
South Carolina
Alaska
Alabama
Nevada
Tennessee
Georgia

Yeah, lotta solid blue states there.....

Let look a little deeper shall we?

Since this thread is about Louisiana, and the biggest city of Louisiana is New Orleans and NO has the most murders = http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/09/louisiana_tops_murder_rate_aga.html (and how federal money to help local law enforcements went down from $900 million to less than $400 million)


Let take a wild guess where are all the murders in NO? Here it is, concentrate in certain areas of NO = http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/page/new_orleans_murders.html

Let take another wild guess the demographics of those murders and if you are more than likely to be murder in Ward 9 of NO, La or in Jefferson Parish, La? And who is in charge of NO? Ain't Republicans since 1800's.

 

[bshole]

It's mostly liberals/progressives that are anti-vaccers, not conservatives. Not that they're not exceptions.
http://www.realclearscience.com/jou...r_conservatives_more_anti-vaccine_108905.html

Well played. Apparently this suicidal idiocy is not limited by political persuasion. Anti-vaccers won't be happy until we get ourselves a new epidemic to bring them back to physical reality.

 

[Brainonska511]

It's mostly liberals/progressives that are anti-vaccers, not conservatives. Not that they're not exceptions.
http://www.realclearscience.com/jou...r_conservatives_more_anti-vaccine_108905.html

It's not really "mostly liberals/progressives": https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ch-of-hippie-liberals/?utm_term=.fb74848d622b
http://www.vice.com/read/weird-politics-of-anti-vaxxers-203

It's very much a bipartisan thing - and though there are clusters in liberal areas, from the available research on the subject, it's not clear that its 'liberal ideology' that leads to holding anti-vaccine views.

 

[Zaap]

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-4

BTW...the South is the most dangerous region for murder and damned near every violent crime. Why? Gun proliferation, poverty, decreasing money/resources for law enforcement (tax cuts galore down south--damn the consequences).

The top nine states with the highest murder rates per 100,000, in order:

Louisiana
Mississippi
Maryland
South Carolina
Alaska
Alabama
Nevada
Tennessee
Georgia

Yeah, lotta solid blue states there.....

The inner cities where every one of those stats come from is solid blue- the exception is probably Alaska.

Stop hiding behind the whole state. Every other thread your ilk points out its urban centers when it comes to deciding the election... but suddenly with crime stats its no longer those same urban centers... it's the entire states.

 

[JSt0rm]

Before you pull out the same ole line of "look at them poors and how us give them all the money", read this.



http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5205346

Should Louisiana and Gulf States get $2.5 billion dollars? Where are all the chantings of "equality for all"? Totally collapse you said?

the south already get more then they put in from the fed. Its time for the southern states to figure out there own budgets. If as a state they want to tax something they can do it. Asking the rest of us to pitch in even more money isnt the correct way. We give you enough.