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Originally posted by: silverpig
Lump sum + putting 80% into a long term safe investment = idiot proofness

Yeah, but thats no fun at all. You need to buy lots of expensive useless things if you want to show the world that your cock is the biggest of them all!
 
Originally posted by: conehead433
Couldn't make money off gas? There's a problem here.

Gas stations don't make money off selling gas. Gas companies makes money off selling gas through gas stations. The gas stations barely break even - most of their profit comes from the convenience store sales.
 
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: ShadoWing
well, i for one am all for playin the lottery. It's not that you're hoping to win or anything, but more of a spirit thing that gets you through the week, cuz you know that even with such a little chance, there's always hope. Just one of those little things in life that keep ya satisfied

Sounds kinda like religion. Not really true but it still helps you. A crutch for the poor, ignorant masses, shall we say?

Thats such a numbskull bullsh1t statement. I hate that statement.
EVERYTHING is, to someone, a crutch.

Hows the internet treating you? Lots of posts there, I assume the internet is your crutch?

Me? Guns. Guns are my crutch.

Point is, EVERYONE has a crutch.

Nothing personal against you of course, I just hate that "crutch for the masses" statement.
 
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
In 1998, he decided to cash in the rest of his lottery payments through a private company, buying an even bigger waterfront home and investing millions in four Shell gas stations.

That was his mistake.

He lost more than $2 million of his lottery winnings and filed suit against Shell for practices that he says were aimed at muscling independent operators like him out of the business. He settled in 2002 for pennies on the dollar for his emotional distress.

Last year, while battling the Internal Revenue Service over back taxes on his lottery winnings, he filed bankruptcy to save the smaller house he had left. He is a stay-at-home dad again and plays the Florida Lottery every week, betting on those same numbers that struck it big in Arizona.

"I entered into the big shark pool, and I was the little minnow," Tallmadge says of his lottery experience.
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No, his mistake was trying to act like the rich without knowing how the rich get away with what they do.

It's obvious he didn't hire a CPA for starters.
 
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Why do you need 7 Porches?

In case you have lots of people who like to look at your backyard.

"I entered into the big shark pool, and I was the little minnow," Tallmadge says of his lottery experience.
Idiot.
 
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: DaWhim
he didn't take a lump sum payment, how smart can he be?
Actually, the payments can be a pretty decent deal. If he hadn't sold his future payments he would still have a bunch left.

People fall into problems when they sell their remaining payments like he did... they only get a fraction of what even the state would've gave them. Again, it goes back to absolutely no understanding of cash.

one of the news programs had a show about lotto winners who take lump sum payments. They said there is a company out (can't remember the name) that offer to buy the lump sum payments. they harras you until you call. They call you every day until you either call or file a suit against them.

Also its not so much of a buy out as it is a loan. some poeple end up oweing the company a LOT of money after its all done.
 
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
In 1998, he decided to cash in the rest of his lottery payments through a private company, buying an even bigger waterfront home and investing millions in four Shell gas stations.

That was his mistake.


Yeah, when I read that, this ran through my mind, "J G WENTWORTH will give you CASH NOW!!!!" :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: ShadoWing
well, i for one am all for playin the lottery. It's not that you're hoping to win or anything, but more of a spirit thing that gets you through the week, cuz you know that even with such a little chance, there's always hope. Just one of those little things in life that keep ya satisfied

Sounds kinda like religion. Not really true but it still helps you. A crutch for the poor, ignorant masses, shall we say?

Thats such a numbskull bullsh1t statement. I hate that statement.
EVERYTHING is, to someone, a crutch.

Hows the internet treating you? Lots of posts there, I assume the internet is your crutch?

Me? Guns. Guns are my crutch.

Point is, EVERYONE has a crutch.

Nothing personal against you of course, I just hate that "crutch for the masses" statement.

I have to agree with this.

everyone has a crutch. mine is comics and computers.

I do buy lotto tickets every now and then. If i buy gas with cash and say its $23 i use the extra $2 on either lotto tickets or pop (or both). heck half the time i forget i have them and don't check them until i clean my wallet out!

do i expect to win? oh heck no. while it would be nice i get satisfaction just imagining "what if".
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: DaWhim
he didn't take a lump sum payment, how smart can he be?
Actually, the payments can be a pretty decent deal. If he hadn't sold his future payments he would still have a bunch left.

People fall into problems when they sell their remaining payments like he did... they only get a fraction of what even the state would've gave them. Again, it goes back to absolutely no understanding of cash.

one of the news programs had a show about lotto winners who take lump sum payments. They said there is a company out (can't remember the name) that offer to buy the lump sum payments. they harras you until you call. They call you every day until you either call or file a suit against them.

Also its not so much of a buy out as it is a loan. some poeple end up oweing the company a LOT of money after its all done.

Change your number. Problem solved.

 
Originally posted by: Poulsonator
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: DaWhim
he didn't take a lump sum payment, how smart can he be?
Actually, the payments can be a pretty decent deal. If he hadn't sold his future payments he would still have a bunch left.

People fall into problems when they sell their remaining payments like he did... they only get a fraction of what even the state would've gave them. Again, it goes back to absolutely no understanding of cash.

one of the news programs had a show about lotto winners who take lump sum payments. They said there is a company out (can't remember the name) that offer to buy the lump sum payments. they harras you until you call. They call you every day until you either call or file a suit against them.

Also its not so much of a buy out as it is a loan. some poeple end up oweing the company a LOT of money after its all done.

Change your number. Problem solved.


not really. they can still get it and do. They said they are relentless. If you shut the phone off htey come to the house etc.

They had a interview with the owner of the company. he even admited that they will harrase them until they sign. they just will not give up.

he said they have hired PI to find people to try to get them to sign with them.


 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: DaWhim
he didn't take a lump sum payment, how smart can he be?
Actually, the payments can be a pretty decent deal. If he hadn't sold his future payments he would still have a bunch left.

People fall into problems when they sell their remaining payments like he did... they only get a fraction of what even the state would've gave them. Again, it goes back to absolutely no understanding of cash.

one of the news programs had a show about lotto winners who take lump sum payments. They said there is a company out (can't remember the name) that offer to buy the lump sum payments. they harras you until you call. They call you every day until you either call or file a suit against them.

Also its not so much of a buy out as it is a loan. some poeple end up oweing the company a LOT of money after its all done.

How could you buy someone?s lump sum payment? "Hey, I'll give you 5 million if you give me your lump sum payment of 6 million?" I mean, I know winners are not usually great with money but I don't think anyone is that dumb.

Do you mean that they offer to buy your yearly payments for 1 lump sum?




 
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: DaWhim
he didn't take a lump sum payment, how smart can he be?
Actually, the payments can be a pretty decent deal. If he hadn't sold his future payments he would still have a bunch left.

People fall into problems when they sell their remaining payments like he did... they only get a fraction of what even the state would've gave them. Again, it goes back to absolutely no understanding of cash.

one of the news programs had a show about lotto winners who take lump sum payments. They said there is a company out (can't remember the name) that offer to buy the lump sum payments. they harras you until you call. They call you every day until you either call or file a suit against them.

Also its not so much of a buy out as it is a loan. some poeple end up oweing the company a LOT of money after its all done.

How could you buy someone?s lump sum payments? "Hey, I'll give you 5 million if you give me your lump sum payment of 6 million?" I mean, I know winners are not usually great with money but I don't think anyone is that dumb.

Do you mean that they offer to buy your yearly payments for 1 lump sum?

they really did not say how they did it. but they did say that a some would end up oweing more then they won etc (probably the idiots that did not pay back on the loan etC)

it has to be something like you said. otherwise why would they even do it? they have to make some money.


 
You people talk like the $6.7 million in 1988 is comparable to today. Right now $6.7 million in 1988 would be equal to $11 million today. I wouldn't have taken the yearly payments. It's stupid. Take the lump sum and invest it!

I would buy important things right away though. I'd buy a $500K house around Cinci with at least a 3 stall garage. Keep the Goat and sell the other cars then buy a brand new Corvette Z06. Id be able to upgrade my computer every six months and live off the money for the rest of my life. Of course I'd make the wife work to pay all of the utility bills. THERE IS NO WAY I WOULD LET HER GET ANY LAZIER!!!!! (If that's possible)
 
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: ShadoWing
well, i for one am all for playin the lottery. It's not that you're hoping to win or anything, but more of a spirit thing that gets you through the week, cuz you know that even with such a little chance, there's always hope. Just one of those little things in life that keep ya satisfied

You should never hope or expect it, if you do, it will never happen. You should look at it as more of supporting the school system than anything else. Thinking of it as donating to the schools would ease up the pressure off my shoulders a lot more..

I never won mega millions in the lottery, but I've hit $2K and $4K prizes on scratch tickets. At most, I p(l)ay about $100 a year and usually win ~$600 a year. As with everything, moderation and sensibility come into play. If you stick to new games, etc. you can come out ahead.

Back on topic, this is why the Bankruptcy laws need major overhauling. At least some of the recent changes have made BK abused less, but it's still pretty rampantly misused. Unfortunately, dickwads like this guy are making it impossible for normal people like you and me to file a legitimate Bankruptcy, if needed.
 
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: ShadoWing
well, i for one am all for playin the lottery. It's not that you're hoping to win or anything, but more of a spirit thing that gets you through the week, cuz you know that even with such a little chance, there's always hope. Just one of those little things in life that keep ya satisfied

You should never hope or expect it, if you do, it will never happen. You should look at it as more of supporting the school system than anything else. Thinking of it as donating to the schools would ease up the pressure off my shoulders a lot more..

I never won mega millions in the lottery, but I've hit $2K and $4K prizes on scratch tickets. At most, I p(l)ay about $100 a year and usually win ~$600 a year. As with everything, moderation and sensibility come into play. If you stick to new games, etc. you can come out ahead.

C'mon. Why stop at $100 then? Why not spend 10K a year to win 60K or 100K to win 600K. You?re either extremely lucky or full of it.


 
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