Lot's of new chips from AMD this week

[Viditor]

The Istanbul models are now:

2423 HE 2.0 GHz 55 W (new)
2425 HE 2.1 GHz 55 W (new)
2427 2.2 GHz 75 W
2431 2.4 GHz 75 W
2435 2.6 GHz 75 W
2439 SE 2.8 GHz 105 W (new)

8425 HE 2.1 GHz 55 W (new)
8431 2.4 GHz 75 W
8435 2.6 GHz 75 W
8439 SE 2.8 GHz 105 W (new)

Also, the Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz (Black Edition) was listed this week...

 

[ochadd]

It's too bad they aren't coming to AM3 or AM2. If they could OC well might be a fun build.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Imagine a Phenom II X6 1055 2.8 stock for $350, or a X6 1065 3.0 stock for $400

yeah i have to wake up

 

[Eureka]

Originally posted by: Gikaseixas
Imagine a Phenom II X6 1055 2.8 stock for $350, or a X6 1065 3.0 stock for $400

yeah i have to wake up

Might not be that far away... 955s have dropped in prices already.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: Viditor
The Istanbul models are now:

2423 HE 2.0 GHz 55 W (new)
2425 HE 2.1 GHz 55 W (new)
2427 2.2 GHz 75 W
2431 2.4 GHz 75 W
2435 2.6 GHz 75 W
2439 SE 2.8 GHz 105 W (new)

8425 HE 2.1 GHz 55 W (new)
8431 2.4 GHz 75 W
8435 2.6 GHz 75 W
8439 SE 2.8 GHz 105 W (new)

Also, the Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz (Black Edition) was listed this week...

I believe there is a 40w EE Istanbul coming soon, too, for 2P.

 

[Phynaz]

Originally posted by: Viditor
The Istanbul models are now:

2423 HE 2.0 GHz 55 W (new)
2425 HE 2.1 GHz 55 W (new)
2427 2.2 GHz 75 W
2431 2.4 GHz 75 W
2435 2.6 GHz 75 W
2439 SE 2.8 GHz 105 W (new)

8425 HE 2.1 GHz 55 W (new)
8431 2.4 GHz 75 W
8435 2.6 GHz 75 W
8439 SE 2.8 GHz 105 W (new)

Also, the Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz (Black Edition) was listed this week...

Warning, these are ACP numbers not TDP numbers. For example the 2423 has a TDP of 79 watts.

Table of cpu's here.

 

[Eeqmcsq]

Originally posted by: Eureka

Originally posted by: Gikaseixas
Imagine a Phenom II X6 1055 2.8 stock for $350, or a X6 1065 3.0 stock for $400

yeah i have to wake up

Might not be that far away... 955s have dropped in prices already.

I read that this is because they are clearing room for the upcoming 965.

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: Phynaz

Originally posted by: Viditor
The Istanbul models are now:

2423 HE 2.0 GHz 55 W (new)
2425 HE 2.1 GHz 55 W (new)
2427 2.2 GHz 75 W
2431 2.4 GHz 75 W
2435 2.6 GHz 75 W
2439 SE 2.8 GHz 105 W (new)

8425 HE 2.1 GHz 55 W (new)
8431 2.4 GHz 75 W
8435 2.6 GHz 75 W
8439 SE 2.8 GHz 105 W (new)

Also, the Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz (Black Edition) was listed this week...

Warning, these are ACP numbers not TDP numbers. For example the 2423 has a TDP of 79 watts.

Table of cpu's here.

Not sure where TR got ACP from, but it's true that AMD now lists their processors with 2 different numbers...
Wattage for power
Max Temp for thermal solutions is a range now.
So for the 2423, the wattage is at 55w, and the max temp is 55-76 C.
This makes better sense to me as TDP has always been an arbitrary number at best, and using it to plan power designs was of course very wrong.
I can only hope that Intel do the same breakdown...

 

[DrMrLordX]

Still waiting for Propus to hit the retail channels so we can see how high its imc can be clocked (versus a standard Phenom II's). Still, 3.4 ghz Phenom II is looking pretty good for AMD.

 

[SparksIT]

Speaking of AMD's 965, whats the difference in performance, any DECENT reviews out for the chip?

I've been seeing some great combo deals for the 955, especially with MSI 790FX-GD70, but was curious as to whether there was much difference, I'm sure there is a stepping difference, and if it is a 955 just clocked a 3.4Ghz? I also believe that it is supposed to launch next to AMD's new chipset, any reviews for that?

 

[Eeqmcsq]

Originally posted by: SparksIT
Speaking of AMD's 965, whats the difference in performance, any DECENT reviews out for the chip?

I've been seeing some great combo deals for the 955, especially with MSI 790FX-GD70, but was curious as to whether there was much difference, I'm sure there is a stepping difference, and if it is a 955 just clocked a 3.4Ghz? I also believe that it is supposed to launch next to AMD's new chipset, any reviews for that?

The AMD 965 is supposed to be out in 1 month, Aug 13. Until then I don't think any sites will have reviews available.

 

[Phynaz]

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: Phynaz

Originally posted by: Viditor
The Istanbul models are now:

2423 HE 2.0 GHz 55 W (new)
2425 HE 2.1 GHz 55 W (new)
2427 2.2 GHz 75 W
2431 2.4 GHz 75 W
2435 2.6 GHz 75 W
2439 SE 2.8 GHz 105 W (new)

8425 HE 2.1 GHz 55 W (new)
8431 2.4 GHz 75 W
8435 2.6 GHz 75 W
8439 SE 2.8 GHz 105 W (new)

Also, the Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz (Black Edition) was listed this week...

Warning, these are ACP numbers not TDP numbers. For example the 2423 has a TDP of 79 watts.

Table of cpu's here.

Not sure where TR got ACP from, but it's true that AMD now lists their processors with 2 different numbers...
Wattage for power
Max Temp for thermal solutions is a range now.
So for the 2423, the wattage is at 55w, and the max temp is 55-76 C.
This makes better sense to me as TDP has always been an arbitrary number at best, and using it to plan power designs was of course very wrong.
I can only hope that Intel do the same breakdown...

TDP is for cooling designs, not power designs.

Didn't you use to squawk some carp about Intel's TDP not being "real" TDP, and AMD's was? And now that AMD is using some made up "average" number you think it's great! LOL!

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: Phynaz
TDP is for cooling designs, not power designs.

Exactly...now AMD is putting out a number for power design, and a number for cooling design (thought that's what I said...). Obviously those are 2 different numbers.

So if you go to the actual spec page for the CPU, you will see both "Max Temps (C)" and "Wattage" as a spec now...

BTW...all TDP numbers are "made up" as well...
All of these numbers are the company's (both Intel and AMD) guide, not their measurements.

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: Eeqmcsq

Originally posted by: SparksIT
Speaking of AMD's 965, whats the difference in performance, any DECENT reviews out for the chip?

I've been seeing some great combo deals for the 955, especially with MSI 790FX-GD70, but was curious as to whether there was much difference, I'm sure there is a stepping difference, and if it is a 955 just clocked a 3.4Ghz? I also believe that it is supposed to launch next to AMD's new chipset, any reviews for that?

The AMD 965 is supposed to be out in 1 month, Aug 13. Until then I don't think any sites will have reviews available.

My apologies for jumping the gun...you are correct.
The 965 is shipping now for a launch mid August. No availability till then...

 

[Phynaz]

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: Phynaz
TDP is for cooling designs, not power designs.

Exactly...now AMD is putting out a number for power design, and a number for cooling design (thought that's what I said...). Obviously those are 2 different numbers.

So if you go to the actual spec page for the CPU, you will see both "Max Temps (C)" and "Wattage" as a spec now...

BTW...all TDP numbers are "made up" as well...
All of these numbers are the company's (both Intel and AMD) guide, not their measurements.

Your post makes no sense at all.

 

[hans007]

intel tdp = for cooling designs.

amd acp = for cooling designs.

these are just for basically cooling design classes, not everything in the same amd acp or intel tdp "class" will actually put out that heat (which is the maximum for that class).

AMD TDP is if every functional unit on the cpu was maxed out which never happens ever. There is no intel equivalent.

 

[Axon]

Originally posted by: SparksIT
Speaking of AMD's 965, whats the difference in performance, any DECENT reviews out for the chip?

I've been seeing some great combo deals for the 955, especially with MSI 790FX-GD70, but was curious as to whether there was much difference, I'm sure there is a stepping difference, and if it is a 955 just clocked a 3.4Ghz? I also believe that it is supposed to launch next to AMD's new chipset, any reviews for that?

I'd love to get some info on that as well. I have been pondering moving on the 955/Foxconn mini-atx combo and the Antec Mini p180. Since I do little more than game on my PC, it would be a fun little build for me.

What's the deal with the AM3 socket, though? I was under the impression that the new chips coming from AMD would work in that socket. Not having to change to a 1366 socket only to have become the home for $700+ mega-server CPUs, resulting in another change to 1156 is part of the appeal for me.

 

[Eeqmcsq]

What's the deal with the AM3 socket, though? I was under the impression that the new chips coming from AMD would work in that socket.

If you're talking about the 24xx and 84xx listed by the OP, those are server chips. As far as I know, all AMD desktop chips are AM3 right now.

 

[Axon]

Originally posted by: EeqmcsqIf you're talking about the 24xx and 84xx listed by the OP, those are server chips. As far as I know, all AMD desktop chips are AM3 right now.

That's the confirmation I was looking for, thanks.

 

[alrightgame]

I also wonder about the 965. I imagine their overclock will still cap at the 3.9 Ghz mark on air, making them no different then a 955.

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: Phynaz

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: Phynaz
TDP is for cooling designs, not power designs.

Exactly...now AMD is putting out a number for power design, and a number for cooling design (thought that's what I said...). Obviously those are 2 different numbers.

So if you go to the actual spec page for the CPU, you will see both "Max Temps (C)" and "Wattage" as a spec now...

BTW...all TDP numbers are "made up" as well...
All of these numbers are the company's (both Intel and AMD) guide, not their measurements.

Your post makes no sense at all.

Phynaz,

I am assuming you are on some sort of narcotic for a cold or something, since Viditors posts make perfect sense, but yours are way out in left field today. Maybe you should avoid posting until you are back in a normal state of mind.

-Martimus

 

[MikeShunt]

6 cores - nice - would like to try one of them.

shame more apps and games dont support that many

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: MikeShunt
6 cores - nice - would like to try one of them.

shame more apps and games dont support that many

True, but it sure comes in handy with virtual machines....

 

[reallyscrued]

Does that Virtualization option in the BIOS do nothing?

 

[drizek]

why doesn't anand just try and burn up a cpu as much as possible to get a real TDP? You can also just use a killawatt or hook up an ammeter to your motherboard power input.