Lots Of Bad RMAs Evga Upgraded Me To A 8800GTX

DasFox

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I went through quite a few bad RMAs with EVGA, and they upgraded me for free from the 7900 series to a 8800GTX. So I'll be getting a brand new 8800GTX in the next few days.

Given the state of crappy drivers lately, Vista gaming support and lack of DX10, and from what I've seen the performance over a GTS isn't that much, at least that's what they keep telling us. I've sort of lead to believe I should just sell the GTX, save some money for when the 8900 cards come out and get a 8800GTS 320 in the meantime.

What you guys think?

ALOHA
 

Modular

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Wow, that's some super awesomness for you, that's what I think.


Selling the GTX for a GTS might not be too bad of an idea at this point. The gaming rig in your sig would likely be able to handle a GTS 640 or 320 better than a GTX. The 1680x1050 res of your NEC monitor isn't too much for a 640 part to stomach either. I'd say go with the GTS 640 and save the couple hundred you can get for the GTX. But even if you keep it and enjoy it till you can sell it for a better card in September or August, you will have nothing to be unhappy about.
 

lopri

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Definitely keep it unless you're going for much lower bins or you don't need a gaming video card. $500 cash is certainly attractive, but only if it ends up in your wallet. In the process of selling/shipping and getting a new GTS, you will not have much left in your hand and lose a huge portion of performance. It might be worthwhile, though, if you can find a good deal on used GTS for like $250. Other than that, I'd keep it. EVGA is just great. I can't imagine any other company doing that (maybe except BFG) for customers.

Originally posted by: DasFox
from what I've seen the performance over a GTS isn't that much, at least that's what they keep telling us.
From who/where?
 

DasFox

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Well I can't say I remember where I've heard stories, but I remember people saying that if you're not going to be running really high rez, then the differences between a GTS and GTX are small.

The NEC 20WMGX2 that I have only runs at 1680x1050, so I really don't know if I'd see any difference between the two, that is why I was thinking about this.

THANKS
 

Matt2

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Originally posted by: DasFox
Well I can't say I remember where I've heard stories, but I remember people saying that if you're not going to be running really high rez, then the differences between a GTS and GTX are small.

The NEC 20WMGX2 that I have only runs at 1680x1050, so I really don't know if I'd see any difference between the two, that is why I was thinking about this.

THANKS

Whoever told you that needs to lay off the pipe.

Maybe at 1280x1024 in CPU limited games there is a small difference, but in 90% of games the GTX is far ahead of the GTS. Even at 1680x1050.
 

DasFox

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Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: DasFox
Well I can't say I remember where I've heard stories, but I remember people saying that if you're not going to be running really high rez, then the differences between a GTS and GTX are small.

The NEC 20WMGX2 that I have only runs at 1680x1050, so I really don't know if I'd see any difference between the two, that is why I was thinking about this.

THANKS

Whoever told you that needs to lay off the pipe.

Maybe at 1280x1024 in CPU limited games there is a small difference, but in 90% of games the GTX is far ahead of the GTS. Even at 1680x1050.

Cool, any Stats/Reviews out there to back this up?

THANKS
 

DasFox

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Well with the GTX, higher pipes, Raster OPs, Frame Buffer Size(RAM), and Texture Fill Rate, have to make for some better excitement.

BUT aren't the 8900s around the corner?

I thought they might be coming out in a few months?

THANKS
 

Woofmeister

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Originally posted by: DasFox
Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: DasFox
Well I can't say I remember where I've heard stories, but I remember people saying that if you're not going to be running really high rez, then the differences between a GTS and GTX are small.

The NEC 20WMGX2 that I have only runs at 1680x1050, so I really don't know if I'd see any difference between the two, that is why I was thinking about this.

THANKS

Whoever told you that needs to lay off the pipe.

Maybe at 1280x1024 in CPU limited games there is a small difference, but in 90% of games the GTX is far ahead of the GTS. Even at 1680x1050.

Cool, any Stats/Reviews out there to back this up?

THANKS

"Far ahead" may be an overstatement, but there's not much question that you will see some significantly faster frame rates with a GTX versus at GT. Here's some benchmarks using OCZ's 8800 GTX, which is a stock GTX with a black PCB. Roughly 20% faster than a stock GTS:

OCZ GeForce 8800GTX Review

 

Keysplayr

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Why the heck would they send you an 8800GTX over say a 8800GTS320??????

You must have raised hell.... :)

Congrats
 

hans007

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i would sell it and get a gts 320. thats a savings of $200+ which assuming you could sell the gtx for $500, $200 could upgrade quite a bit of a system, hell at current ram prices thats lik e8 gb of ram. haha
 

DasFox

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Originally posted by: hans007
i would sell it and get a gts 320. thats a savings of $200+ which assuming you could sell the gtx for $500, $200 could upgrade quite a bit of a system, hell at current ram prices thats lik e8 gb of ram. haha

Well the only reason I'm thinking of selling is to just hang onto that money and put it into a 8900 when they come out.

And Woofmeister I've never heard of any GTX being 20% faster then a GTS.
 

JAG87

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dasfox, think about it.

whatever money you make now, your going to lose it later. an GTS 320 will not sell for the same price a GTX will when you are going to upgrade to the 8900 series. so lets say you pocket 200 now, when the 8900s come out and you sell your used GTS 320 you will probably get around 150 dollars where as the GTX can probably sell for 350. enjoy what you have now, and dont worry about it. why give up the chicken for the egg.
 

Munky

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Keep the gtx. Unless you game at a resolution of 1024 x 768 (or don't game at all ), you will put all that card's power to use in less than a year with upcoming games, so it's not overkill. And the difference between the gtx and the gts is big - not even an OC'd gts can match a stock gtx. Besides, the image quality of the 8-series blows the 7-series away.
 

Matt2

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Originally posted by: DasFox
Originally posted by: hans007
i would sell it and get a gts 320. thats a savings of $200+ which assuming you could sell the gtx for $500, $200 could upgrade quite a bit of a system, hell at current ram prices thats lik e8 gb of ram. haha

Well the only reason I'm thinking of selling is to just hang onto that money and put it into a 8900 when they come out.

And Woofmeister I've never heard of any GTX being 20% faster then a GTS.

Just read the review Woofmeister linked to.

FEAR
1600x1200 4x/16x AA/AF

8800GTX- 80 fps
8800GTS 320mb- 58 fps

38% difference

Company of Heroes
1600x1200 4x/16x AA/AF

8800GTX- 121.2 fps
8800GTS 320mb- 72.3 fps

67.6% difference

RS:V is a lot closer, but I believe that is the exception, not the norm.
 

Captante

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Keep the GTX ... at 1680x1050 you'll get somwhat better performance now & much better performance later, plus its not woth the hassle of selling it & buying another card IMO.
 

Synomenon

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Wow, I sent my 7900GT CO Superclocked in last week and got a crappy 8600GTS. How in the world were you able to get an 8800GTX?
 

ss284

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Sell it, especially if you are going to get the 8900 sooner or later. The GTX is a huge power hungry card, and switching it out for a 640mb GTS in my case made my room noticeably cooler, which little to no difference in performance at 1600-1200. Remember, with LCDs anything over 60 fps is just a waste.
 

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how many bad RMA's did u recieve?

i say keep the bad @ss gtx. you wont make that much money if u sell it and get a gts.
 

Synomenon

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Please give us more details on your whole RMA experience that led up to them giving you and 8800GTX. I mentioned this thread over at EVGA's forums and RussianHAXOR (one of EVGA's employees) says it's highly doubtful that this happened.