Well, since you obviously wanted to stir up some kind of argument...
Originally posted by: ITPaladin
Sounds like you didn't start out playing the carebear Caldari way.
Actually I did. The tutorials, and the Sisters of Eve 50+ mission epic arc might I add. (fun) On top of that I nearly spent over an hour and a half a day of the 4 hours a day I played EVE during my first month. Then the help channel mysteriously disappeared and the fucking game deemed it necessarily not to tell you how to enter a different, smaller channel. After being ignored forever someone finally told me in a local channel what to do.
I'm sorry but when it takes over THREE HOURS, to get from one location to another with a load of cargo - thats fucking god damned ridiculous - you could go out and see a movie as long as Lord of the Rings and still not be there yet! Really! Its true! I ended up watching "You only Live Twice" and wasn't even there yet. I actually freaked out because I was targeted once - HOW THE HELL are you supposed to stay alert staring at your monitor for three hours?
Not to mention level 1 agents making me go into 0.2 security, forcing me to lose my first cruiser I saved up for... I was pretty goddamned pissed.. your a newer player - how was I supposed to know there are gate hoarders that pounce on you and pod kill you the second you get there? YOU DONT. Not until it happens to you... No one tells you that there are ways to check for recent pod killings in the area, you just have to learn the hard way. At that point you don't even know what pod killers are, you don't know that there isn't a pirates world ready to kill anything outside the boarder of the "safe haven" you don't know your really in. You dont know you can change the map and figure these things out, you aren't in any habbits of getting and sort of insurance.. I JUST STARTED THIS GAME!
This isnt even mentioning the acceleration gates - the level 1 agents want you to buy a new ship just to do their mission - fuck when I just started the game a week ago - and you want me to have a $50,000 per mission budget (that take 40+ minutes to do per mission) and find a way to go out and get a $1,000,000 destroyer + weapons to do your damned mission? Sorry.
I tried 4 "corporations" (yes four) and none of them helped me... no advice, no teamspeak or ventrilo, no mission support, nothing.. just a bunch of wise ass jerks who wanted me to move their cargo from place to place for a tiny income, or to have me travel 20 (or yes, MORE) jumps and help them in some impossible mission that I've almost died from countless times (that I had no chance in being helpful in btw)... its interesting because their ads and their application process's were completely false advertisements and seemed initially like a good legitimate corp. Well, they treated me like shit, and talked as if I was supposed to be fluent in EVE speak.
EVE started out to be a fun game you felt like you accomplished something while completing some research or picking up new items from dead ships that were helpful. That was fun. Then research started to take 5 days, 10 days, 15 days. Agent missions went from 0 jumps, to 1 jump, 5, 15, 25, 3 billion trillion zillion+ (from 1 minute to 30, to 1 hour to 3 hours!).... from 1.0 sec, to .2 sec. Missions taking 20 minutes to 2 hours. Battles taking 1 minute to 20-25 minutes, knowing you were going to win 5 minutes into the fight, you just had to sit there and wait for the same explosions to occur over and over and over for another 20 minutes until it finally ended - only to take another 10 minutes traveling 92 m/s to travel 90km away and getting your items - then only to bookmark the area to pick up salvaging equipment/tractor beams hoping to make that (later on) lucky $1,000,000 in computer parts in addition to the $90,000 mission payout.
I'm someone who usually
doesn't like RPGs. I don't play games like Oblivion, Fable, Mass Effect... But again, I DID like eve at the start. I would have continued to like it, but they only encouraged you not to play it. These other MMOs seem a bit childish... I thought of EVE as a mature, adult game. Well after 3 months... I get a large impression its a game for 40 year olds who play while they are busy going about their lives and end up having some time once and a while for some EVE - while still being able to spend all that remaining 30 missed days on researching "Caldari Battleships V" or whatever. I won't pass judgements on everyone - because it'll piss off a bunch of legit players here - but they wont read this anyway and will post whatever they want after this.
These Single player RPG's are worlds (to me) that are just a bunch of NPC robot zeros and ones, thats why I sought out an MMO. A world by players, for players. Thats why I'm here and asking in this thread. If LOTRO is something that fills that void, great - if its people like this assuming:
Originally posted by: ITPaladin
You seem like someone that just wants to jump into a game without even reading a manual on how to play it.
I'm sorry your mistaken. I'm someone who actually wants to play a game, not "wait" to play the game. I'll read a complicated manual, a book, a damned encyclopedia - whatever. But the bottom line is that game was boring as hell and I'm hoping that theres at least one MMO that isn't so dubbed down that its just for children, as others are making it out to be. If it is, I'll just stick to my other, better games.
