Lost my job =(

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: Prince2klbAzn

Originally posted by: SampSon
Congratulations on losing your first job! That's basically a right of passage for entering the working world.
Expect much of the same types of experinces in the future.

You knew they were heavily laying people off, so being put on the chopping block should have been on your mind.
They were obviously looking for any reasons to substantiate thinning out your department, and they found them.

File for unemployment, update your resume and get back out there. It happens to everyone.

I was told I couldn't file for unemployment benefits in NY since it only applies to people being 'laid-off' and not fired. They fired 3 of us.

I still find it really bs... I pulled 70 hour weeks for 5-6 months doing every bit of work they could rustle up for me. ><

If they are systematically letting people go, you should file anyways. Upon being denied, start a class action law suit. It should be no problem finding people in teh same boat.

 

[Delta6Echo]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: RichardE
Your own fault. If you followed procedures to the letter they would have no reason to let you go for unprofesionalism. Most people know this. If they can't fire you for what they want, they'll fire you for something else. Or if they can save on severance, they'll find something else.

Listen up jerk. Companies give vacation days for a reason... to be used.

I'm really sick and tired of companies who give vacation time and then get mad at you when you use them. Here's a tip: Don't give vacation time unless you want people to use it

As far as the previous poster saying that the OP wasn't working hard, how the hell would you know? Just because he used his vacation time doesn't mean that he wasn't working hard :roll:

 

[DaWhim]

analyst is the new one to get canned especially when the big banks are losing billions.

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Dedication to work != how many vacation days you took, it's how many days you called in sick, how many days you strolled into work 20 minutes late, how many days you decided to cut out a few minutes early, how many days your lunch took 1 hours and 15 minutes, or how many days you decided to go to work and not actually do your work. Trust me, there's a lot more to "unprofessional attitude/demeanor" & "dedication and responsibility" than you think.

:thumbsup: We have a point system at work. You come in 15 minutes late, you get a point. You call in sick but don't have a doctor's note, you get a point. You get 8 points, and you get escorted off the premises.

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: RichardE
Your own fault. If you followed procedures to the letter they would have no reason to let you go for unprofesionalism. Most people know this. If they can't fire you for what they want, they'll fire you for something else. Or if they can save on severance, they'll find something else.

Listen up jerk. Companies give vacation days for a reason... to be used.

It's not wise to take a vacation when your department is going through rough times. You know, unless you want to be canned.

where the hell do you people work? in the software field?

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: evident

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Dedication to work != how many vacation days you took, it's how many days you called in sick, how many days you strolled into work 20 minutes late, how many days you decided to cut out a few minutes early, how many days your lunch took 1 hours and 15 minutes, or how many days you decided to go to work and not actually do your work. Trust me, there's a lot more to "unprofessional attitude/demeanor" & "dedication and responsibility" than you think.

:thumbsup: We have a point system at work. You come in 15 minutes late, you get a point. You call in sick but don't have a doctor's note, you get a point. You get 8 points, and you get escorted off the premises.

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: RichardE
Your own fault. If you followed procedures to the letter they would have no reason to let you go for unprofesionalism. Most people know this. If they can't fire you for what they want, they'll fire you for something else. Or if they can save on severance, they'll find something else.

Listen up jerk. Companies give vacation days for a reason... to be used.

It's not wise to take a vacation when your department is going through rough times. You know, unless you want to be canned.

where the hell do you people work? in the software field?

I work in software, but I don't have a Nazi employer.

 

[ranmaniac]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

The kind that prevents our employees from calling out because they don't feel like working. If you are too sick to work, you need to go see a doctor. We also accept a doctor's note for an employee's child, if an employee has to stay home to care for him/her.

We also do a 10-panel drug screen pre-employment with random drug testing weekly. You have a problem with that too?

We take good care of our employees, so we expect them to work hard for us.

There are plenty of situations where you would be unable to work effectively or could even present a health risk to your co-workers, yet not need to see a doctor. Examples would include severe migranes, a really rough cold or flu, food poisoning, etc. Do you really want ALL of your employees to be sick for a week just because you were too much of an ass to let ONE employee take ONE day off to beat the worst of a nasty bug? And people with migranes sometimes have severe perceptual disturbances. But 9 out of 10 people will not need to see a doctor about this. You pop a couple Excedrine and go to bed all day, and the next day you're probably feeling a lot better. But if you tried to work (IF you made it to work without crashing your car), you'd be worse than useless because you'll make mistakes and not be presentable to interact with vendors or clients. Business is about protecting your bottom line and making the most money, and your policy is counterproductive to both. Good luck with that shit.

And for the record, I'm sure that random drug testing does WONDERS for staff productivity and morale. People are really in good spirits and bringing in the bucks when they pee in that cup! Hire and fire based on performance, period.

"Take good care of our employees" my ass.

Our policy seems to be working just fine as we are one of the only companies in the industry not to suffer a loss right now. In fact, we are expanding. Not to mention, our retention rate is higher than average for the manufacturing industry.

If someone really needs to stay home and doesn't want to go to the doctor, they can. They will get a point, but as long as they don't abuse the system there isn't going to be a problem. I think it's more than fair to give someone 8 chances not to show up late to work or call out without a verifiable excuse.

We do take excellent care of our employees, and they know it.

Sieg Heil!

 

[rockyct]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: child of wonder

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
If someone just has a sore throat or is a little nauseas they should show up to work. You must be a Gen X'er.

29, wherever that puts me. I had a sore throat that started on Christmas, and I was caughing up mucus and just felt horrible. Emailed my manager on a daily basis, but stayed home for three days following Christmas.

Yep, Gen X'er.

Conversely, you're a baby boomer, correct?

Nope, Gen Y'er (Nexter, Millenial, or whatever you want to call me).

Nice generalization. Like someone who was born in 1978 is all that different from someone born in 1985 (or whenever you were born). The differences between your field and his are far greater than a generational gap. If anything your generation is stereotyped as the "me me me, now now now" generation.

The bottom line that in your workplace, they need to use points system to keep people in line. However, if you tried that in most offices, it would cause an unproductive work environment with quite a bit of hostility toward management.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

The kind that prevents our employees from calling out because they don't feel like working. If you are too sick to work, you need to go see a doctor. We also accept a doctor's note for an employee's child, if an employee has to stay home to care for him/her.

We also do a 10-panel drug screen pre-employment with random drug testing weekly. You have a problem with that too?

We take good care of our employees, so we expect them to work hard for us.

There are plenty of situations where you would be unable to work effectively or could even present a health risk to your co-workers, yet not need to see a doctor. Examples would include severe migranes, a really rough cold or flu, food poisoning, etc. Do you really want ALL of your employees to be sick for a week just because you were too much of an ass to let ONE employee take ONE day off to beat the worst of a nasty bug? And people with migranes sometimes have severe perceptual disturbances. But 9 out of 10 people will not need to see a doctor about this. You pop a couple Excedrine and go to bed all day, and the next day you're probably feeling a lot better. But if you tried to work (IF you made it to work without crashing your car), you'd be worse than useless because you'll make mistakes and not be presentable to interact with vendors or clients. Business is about protecting your bottom line and making the most money, and your policy is counterproductive to both. Good luck with that shit.

And for the record, I'm sure that random drug testing does WONDERS for staff productivity and morale. People are really in good spirits and bringing in the bucks when they pee in that cup! Hire and fire based on performance, period.

"Take good care of our employees" my ass.

Our policy seems to be working just fine as we are one of the only companies in the industry not to suffer a loss right now. In fact, we are expanding. Not to mention, our retention rate is higher than average for the manufacturing industry.

If someone really needs to stay home and doesn't want to go to the doctor, they can. They will get a point, but as long as they don't abuse the system there isn't going to be a problem. I think it's more than fair to give someone 8 chances not to show up late to work or call out without a verifiable excuse.

We do take excellent care of our employees, and they know it.

lol@your job.