Lost my beer vending job for not selling to a preggo.

[chalmers]

Actually it's his boss's beer. Not his. Seems you and he forgot that. If he wants to keep the job, it's up to his boss to refuse service not him.

Are you disappoint in me?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

If she is still free to buy beer, how has her free will been negated? You fail at making sense.

Whoever it was earlier was talking about laws against the sale of alcohol, hence there are no alternative alcohol vendors either, and no ability to exercise "free will" and buy alcohol without resorting to illegal methods.

 

[Mo0o]

Which is hypocritical. I have no problem being a hypocrite myself, I would just like others to admit it as well.

I dont think that's being hypocritical. Just because you support the right of a person to do something doesnt mean you have actively enable the person or be forced into such actions.

If I was an OB, I would be happy to direct patients to abortion services but I wouldnt want to be the one to scoop the fucker out. Not because I have moral qualms, but because I find it unappealing

 

[jman19]

Whoever it was earlier was talking about laws against the sale of alcohol, hence there are no alternative alcohol vendors either, and no ability to exercise "free will" and buy alcohol without resorting to illegal methods.

If that is the case, then I agree. The lack of nested quoting makes misunderstandings a lot easier...

In this case though, she is still free to buy beer.

 

[Wanescotting]

Actually it's his boss's beer. Not his. Seems you and he forgot that. If he wants to keep the job, it's up to his boss to refuse service not him.

So he can sell to someone underage and blame it on the boss?

 

[Mo0o]

So he can sell to someone underage and blame it on the boss?

Well to be fair, his boss would have a policy to not sell to minor, which would be backed by law

 

[Mo0o]

Here are my conclusions from this story and the arguments have followed:

1. OP had a personal right to refuse service
2. Woman had a personal, and legal, right to purchase beer
3. Employer had a legal right to fire OP for violating corporate policy (of selling beer to anyone who has a legal right to do so

Because of 1 and 3, OP was fired.

 

[disappoint]

Are you disappoint in me?

No. You stood up for what you believe in. I happen to agree that pregnant women should not drink and I think it should be illegal for them to do so but enforcement would be only possible in public places such as where you work.

But ultimately it's up to your boss if service may be refused in that venue. Since you object more to selling beer to the pregnant women than being fired I think you did what you felt you had to do and I support you on it. Although I think your boss should not have fired you just informed you of the rules he has set and that you must serve to pregnant women or quit. But it is his right to fire you even if we disagree with it.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

If she is still free to buy beer, how has her free will been negated? You fail at making sense.

And you fail at reading comprehension. Now, back to the discussion.

The OP stood up for his beliefs and paid the price.
Other folks weighed in saying 'Good on you' and, 'there ought to be a law.'
I pointed out that creating laws to enforce social mores was a slippery slope.
I'm still waiting for an opinion because enquiring minds think ideas are more interesting than debate debates.

 

[disappoint]

So he can sell to someone underage and blame it on the boss?

It is illegal to sell to minors, not illegal to sell to pregnant women.

 

[midwestfisherman]

i dont think drinking in the 7-8th month of pregnancy will have a huge effect on the fetus.

the first few months, yeah, but by then the fetus is pretty well developed.

And your medical degree is from where?

 

[Wanescotting]

Truth be told, if your boss was that morally indignant, probably don't want to work for him anyway 🙂 If your boss was female, you would still have a job....and just remember, that couple gets to go back to the trailer park tonight with a smug felling of vindication...until about 6 months from now

 

[jman19]

And you fail at reading comprehension. Now, back to the discussion.

The OP stood up for his beliefs and paid the price.
Other folks weighed in saying 'Good on you' and, 'there ought to be a law.'
I pointed out that creating laws to enforce social mores was a slippery slope.
I'm still waiting for an opinion because enquiring minds think ideas are more interesting than debate debates.

I don't think it should be a law at all.

Anyway, you were asking a question about "free will" and not laws.

 

[CFP]

See Also: U.S. Foreign policy.

Haha so true. Every damn day Hilary is making some unsubtle and denigrating comment about China.

OP, I sympathise for sure, but your arrogance cost you your job.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I dont think that's being hypocritical. Just because you support the right of a person to do something doesnt mean you have actively enable the person or be forced into such actions.

If I was an OB, I would be happy to direct patients to abortion services but I wouldnt want to be the one to scoop the fucker out. Not because I have moral qualms, but because I find it unappealing

So, it's alright for someone else to do it as long as you don't get your hands dirty? Sorry, sounds hypocritical to me.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I don't think it should be a law at all.

Anyway, you were asking a question about "free will" and not laws.

I was asking about your opinion. You haven't offered anything on what you believe regarding the OP's situation so, put up or shut up.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

So, it's alright for someone else to do it as long as you don't get your hands dirty? Sorry, sounds hypocritical to me.

He said that he didn't have moral qualms, but found it unappealing. Is it hypocritical to support the profession of proctology without wanting to examine people's colons for a living?

You're coming off as someone that just likes the sight of dead babies.

 

[Mo0o]

So, it's alright for someone else to do it as long as you don't get your hands dirty? Sorry, sounds hypocritical to me.

Why? So if you think homosexuals should haev the right to have sexual relationships you should be willing to take it up the butt or deliver the service yourself?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

He said that he didn't have moral qualms, but found it unappealing. Is it hypocritical to support the profession of proctology without wanting to examine people's colons for a living?

If you're a proctologist, yes.

 

[Wanescotting]

Why? So if you think homosexuals should haev the right to have sexual relationships you should be willing to take it up the butt or deliver the service yourself?

hahahaha...you went there

 

[midwestfisherman]

too bad karma does hand out a paycheck

well.....

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Why? So if you think homosexuals should haev the right to have sexual relationships you should be willing to take it up the butt or deliver the service yourself?

If you're gay, yes. Or, you can admit to being hypocritical.

 

[midwestfisherman]

Then hell...he should also refuse to sell alcohol to anyone who looks Muslim or Mormon...since their laws forbid them to drink alcohol...

Red herring.....try again.

 

[Mo0o]

If you're gay, yes. Or, you can admit to being hypocritical.

What does being gay have to do with it. Your whole premise is that if you support something, you should be willing to do it yourself.

 

[Blitzvogel]

Good for you for sticking to your conviction.

The stupid bitch!

Sorry you got fired but karma is on your side. 🙂

I agree with this, however in his position as a vendor, you're the obvious loser in the situation (as opposed to a business owner who can really just do whatever he wants/believes).

I wonder, if he had given her the beer, it's certainly possible he could have been chastised by fans for selling her the beer creating a lose-lose issue never the less.