Lose your home, lose your vote

[Juddog]

Lose your house, lose your vote.

Wow. Looks like it's back to the dirty tricks again for the GOP trying to swing the election in the favor of one party. To me this is a pretty low move, and it looks like the GOP is pulling out all the stops this election. So having a foreclosed home makes you ineligible to vote? Since when has this been? To me it seems like utter crap. People should just be allowed to vote for who they want if they are a citizen of the country and decided to vote.

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[GTKeeper]

Not only that, but in Ohio the GOP sent out about 1 million absente ballots forms to request an absente ballot. They put an extra check mark on the form at the bottom that asks if you are eligible to vote, if people forgot to check it, they cannot receive a ballot. About 1/3 did not check it.

Its sad to see that the GOP has to stoop this low to get votes. I guess they can't win on the issues, they have to manipulate the system in order to stay in power.

Here is the story:

http://news.cincinnati.com/app...11/NEWS0108/309110032/

 

[dphantom]

I wouldn't make too much of it. If you know Michigan at all, you will know that Kent and Macomb are republican, Oakland is split and Wayne and Genessee are democratic. So if this was a suppress the black vote as I believe you are trying to imply, it makes no sense to do that in primarily republican country.

For McCain to have any chance at carrying MI, he has to deceisively win Kent and Macomb and at least tie in Oakland county.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dphantom
I wouldn't make too much of it. If you know Michigan at all, you will know that Kent and Macomb are republican, Oakland is split and Wayne and Genessee are democratic. So if this was a suppress the black vote as I believe you are trying to imply, it makes no sense to do that in primarily republican country.

For McCain to have any chance at carrying MI, he has to deceisively win Kent and Macomb and at least tie in Oakland county.

Shhh.... no sense in bringing reality to the conversation...

 

[351Cleveland]

I dont know that I disagree... you cannot vote from a residence that you dont live at. You should be voting from your new residence... wherever that may be. If people are voting from vacant homes, then I would think that is a problem... right?

Wouldnt be an issue if we made people register to vote every 4 years. It's harder than hell to get names off the voter rolls. I was on the books in 3 precincts for one election...

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: dphantom
I wouldn't make too much of it. If you know Michigan at all, you will know that Kent and Macomb are republican, Oakland is split and Wayne and Genessee are democratic. So if this was a suppress the black vote as I believe you are trying to imply, it makes no sense to do that in primarily republican country.

For McCain to have any chance at carrying MI, he has to deceisively win Kent and Macomb and at least tie in Oakland county.

Shhh.... no sense in bringing reality to the conversation...

So the poll challengers can't see color?

 

[lupi]

Um, don't you vote based on where you live? If people no longer live at an address aren't they supposed to re-register to where they moved, ya know cause most of the people being voted on are voted on by those they are representing in their area of coverage.

 

[Juddog]

Where this is a problem though is for people that may have started a foreclosure but haven't yet moved from their house, or possibly moved to another area within the same city, take for example an apartment. In those cases they will have been automatically blocked from voting.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: dphantom
I wouldn't make too much of it. If you know Michigan at all, you will know that Kent and Macomb are republican, Oakland is split and Wayne and Genessee are democratic. So if this was a suppress the black vote as I believe you are trying to imply, it makes no sense to do that in primarily republican country.

For McCain to have any chance at carrying MI, he has to deceisively win Kent and Macomb and at least tie in Oakland county.

Shhh.... no sense in bringing reality to the conversation...

Fail

The reality is the Obama campaign is targeting Democrats in counties which are primarily republican in registration in an effort to maximize voter turnout.

The reality is the Republican 'Contempt For America Party' will do anything to suppress voter turnout with ?election challengers?

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Juddog
Lose your house, lose your vote.

Wow. Looks like it's back to the dirty tricks again for the GOP trying to swing the election in the favor of one party. To me this is a pretty low move, and it looks like the GOP is pulling out all the stops this election. So having a foreclosed home makes you ineligible to vote? Since when has this been? To me it seems like utter crap. People should just be allowed to vote for who they want if they are a citizen of the country and decided to vote.

Lets get something straight. The congressman who the Michigan Messenger interviewed was given a chance to explain himself on the radio last week and he was grilled over and over about this. He said he never said any of the things the Michigan Messenger said that he said and said there is no "list" they are checking about the foreclosures.

So please, stop using blogs as fact because certainly in this case, they obviously skewed the man's words to say something other than what he intended.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Juddog
Where this is a problem though is for people that may have started a foreclosure but haven't yet moved from their house, or possibly moved to another area within the same city, take for example an apartment. In those cases they will have been automatically blocked from voting.

Not if they re-register to vote for their new address.

 

[Corbett]

http://www.migop.org/news.asp?artid=170

Sep 16, 2008
Macomb County GOP Chairman Says Liberal Blog Libeled Him

SHELBY TWP., Mich. ? Macomb County Republican Party Chairman James Carabelli said a liberal blogger libeled him last week, fabricating a quote attributed to him that has burned its way across the Internet and the mainstream media, adding he will take legal action Wednesday to clear his name.

?This story is not true. The Michigan Messenger made it up,? Carabelli said. ?Because of reckless and fabricated reporting by the Michigan Messenger, my good name has been besmirched on the Internet and across the mainstream media and my reputation irrevocably harmed. I never said what the Michigan Messenger quoted me as saying. It?s not true, and I want a full and complete retraction of the quote, and I am taking legal action to get it. Let me state, again and unequivocally, there is no such plan to use foreclosure lists to challenger voters, and I never said there was. This is a story line being pushed by one liberal blog, the Obama campaign, and their friends and operatives on the Left.?
Last week, the MichiganMessenger.com, a liberal blog funded by the Center for Independent Media, a known front group for liberal billionaire George Soros, published an online story claiming Carabelli said the Macomb County Republican Party planned to use lists of foreclosed homes to challenge voters on Election Day. Immediately after the story was published online, Carabelli and Michigan Republican Party Chairman Saulius ?Saul? Anuzis condemned the story as false. On Friday, Carabelli demanded the Michigan Messenger retract the story. The Michigan Messenger has yet to retract the story or provide proof that the quote attributed to Carabelli is accurate.
?What we have here is a liberal blog funded by a liberal billionaire pushing a fabricated story that supports a liberal agenda,? Anuzis said. ?Never in my 30 years in politics have I seen the mainstream media pick up such a completely false and utterly ludicrous story as this one and run with it with such glee. It is high-time we hold these liberal blogs to the same ethical and legal standards that we do for newspapers, broadcast news, and other legitimate media outlets.?

 

[Corbett]

http://www.migop.org/news.asp?artid=168

Sep 12, 2008
MI GOP: Foreclosure Story False

LANSING, Mich. - The chairmen of the Michigan Republican Party and the Republican Party of Macomb County today denounced a story on a liberal blog, claiming Republicans would use home foreclosure lists to disqualify voters, as false, based on comments fabricated by a writer.

?This story is not true, and I never said those things,? said Macomb County Republican Party Chairman James Carabelli. ?The writer from the blog who spoke to me fabricated comments attributed to me. I did not say that, and I demand a retraction.?

The MichiganMessenger.com, a Left-leaning blog run by the Center for Independent Media, a known front organization for liberal billionaire George Soros, published a story claiming that Republicans in Michigan planned to use lists of foreclosed homes to weed out unqualified voters on Election Day. MichiganMessenger.com cited no evidence for this claim other than the fabricated quote attributed to Carabelli.

?There is no truth to this story. It?s a complete fabrication,? said Michigan Republican Party Chairman Saulius ?Saul? Anuzis. ?There has never been a plan to use foreclosure lists to challenge voters. There is no such plan, and there never will be such a plan. Period.?

Anuzis said it is no coincidence that as the race for the White House tightens, nationally and in Michigan, the Obama campaign and its supporters have resorted to manufacturing news. He added that this ploy is eerily similar to efforts by the Kerry-Edwards ticket in 2004, when it encouraged supporters to fabricate stories about voter intimidation to influence media coverage of the race.

According to a Kerry-Edwards ?Colorado Election Day Manual,? distributed to Democratic poll challengers in 2004, it directs them to make up charges of voter intimidation: ?If no signs of intimidation techniques have emerged yet, launch a ?pre-emptive strike? ... place stories in which minority leadership express concern about the threat of intimidation tactics.? (Kerry-Edwards/DNC ?Colorado Election Day Manual,? pg. 54, attached.)

?This is a well-worn tactic by the Democrats, and the Left, to cry ?wolf? to draw attention away from the election fraud they commit at every election,? Anuzis said. ?We still have the FBI holding ballots that Democrats stuffed after the polls closed in a recent election, and in 2004, at least 46 deceased voters managed to rise from the grave and vote in heavy Democrat-leaning precincts. That?s the kind of ballot integrity Democrats favor in Michigan.?

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Corbett
http://www.migop.org/news.asp?artid=168

Sep 12, 2008
MI GOP: Foreclosure Story False

LANSING, Mich. - The chairmen of the Michigan Republican Party and the Republican Party of Macomb County today denounced a story on a liberal blog, claiming Republicans would use home foreclosure lists to disqualify voters, as false, based on comments fabricated by a writer.

?This story is not true, and I never said those things,? said Macomb County Republican Party Chairman James Carabelli. ?The writer from the blog who spoke to me fabricated comments attributed to me. I did not say that, and I demand a retraction.?

The MichiganMessenger.com, a Left-leaning blog run by the Center for Independent Media, a known front organization for liberal billionaire George Soros, published a story claiming that Republicans in Michigan planned to use lists of foreclosed homes to weed out unqualified voters on Election Day. MichiganMessenger.com cited no evidence for this claim other than the fabricated quote attributed to Carabelli.

?There is no truth to this story. It?s a complete fabrication,? said Michigan Republican Party Chairman Saulius ?Saul? Anuzis. ?There has never been a plan to use foreclosure lists to challenge voters. There is no such plan, and there never will be such a plan. Period.?

Anuzis said it is no coincidence that as the race for the White House tightens, nationally and in Michigan, the Obama campaign and its supporters have resorted to manufacturing news. He added that this ploy is eerily similar to efforts by the Kerry-Edwards ticket in 2004, when it encouraged supporters to fabricate stories about voter intimidation to influence media coverage of the race.

According to a Kerry-Edwards ?Colorado Election Day Manual,? distributed to Democratic poll challengers in 2004, it directs them to make up charges of voter intimidation: ?If no signs of intimidation techniques have emerged yet, launch a ?pre-emptive strike? ... place stories in which minority leadership express concern about the threat of intimidation tactics.? (Kerry-Edwards/DNC ?Colorado Election Day Manual,? pg. 54, attached.)

?This is a well-worn tactic by the Democrats, and the Left, to cry ?wolf? to draw attention away from the election fraud they commit at every election,? Anuzis said. ?We still have the FBI holding ballots that Democrats stuffed after the polls closed in a recent election, and in 2004, at least 46 deceased voters managed to rise from the grave and vote in heavy Democrat-leaning precincts. That?s the kind of ballot integrity Democrats favor in Michigan.?

Heh, pretty much a pwn on the blogger. I like the 'at least 46 deceased voters managed to rise from the grave and vote in heavy Democrat-leaning precincts' dig he got in at the end. :laugh: