Lose fat with weight lifting, not cardio?

Safeway

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
That article is full of BS.
You need both.

No, you are misinformed. Yea, yea, yea, so you lift weights. You don't need cardio to lose fat. In fact, if you mix weights and cardio incorrectly, you eat away at all your gains. building lean mass that raises your BMR is far superior.

You don't need both, and if i were to choose one or the other, I'd choose resistance training.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
That article is full of BS.
You need both.

No, you are misinformed. Yea, yea, yea, so you lift weights. You don't need cardio to lose fat. In fact, if you mix weights and cardio incorrectly, you eat away at all your gains. building lean mass that raises your BMR is far superior.

You don't need both, and if i were to choose one or the other, I'd choose resistance training.

The fact you brought up BMR makes it sure you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

FrontlineWarrior

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I do a combination of both but weighed more on the weight training part and less on cardio. I lift weights without pausing, which gets my heart rate up quite a bit. After 3 sets of various weights (I do all the major muscles per workout instead of focusing on 1 or 2), I do about 15-20 minutes of cardio. When I start cardio my HR is at around 140, and it takes less than a minute to get me to 160ish. So it's kind of like doing cardio while weight training.
 

Xyclone

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Do both, but if you want to lose weight, an hour and half of cardio (running, swimming, etc. NOT) each week is important.
 

KoolDrew

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Do both, but the concentration should be on weight lifting. Cardio alone will just leave you a skinny fat person who can't keep the weight off. I do cardio, but I treat it more like something for general health and something that adds a bit of flexibility in my diet.

Of course, no matter what your goal is, diet is always the most important factor.
 

KoolDrew

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That article is full of BS.
You need both.

Need? No. Is it still a good idea? Yes.

What makes you loose weight is a calorie defecit. While cardio allows this, you're diet will have the largest effect.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: KoolDrew
That article is full of BS.
You need both.

Need? No. Is it still a good idea? Yes.

What makes you loose weight is a calorie defecit. While cardio allows this, you're diet will have the largest effect.

To properly cut, yes you need both.
 

Rudee

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The best routine for fat loss in my opinion - and I have been lifting since the mid 80's - is to make your weight lifting routine cardiovascular by keeping rest time between sets to no more then 45 seconds. It allows you to keep your heart-rate up during your entire routine, and as a result, you burn more bodyfat while building you muscles.
 

Koing

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You can DEFINATELY lose fat by doing weight training and not doing any cardio, but most will not get cut to an 8 pack. But some guys can. My bro has an 8 pack but he does no cardio what so ever, eats 'okay' but nothing ultra clean. A bunch of other guys also.

You can do it but how lean do you want to be? Most people won't be able to do get an 8 pack without some doing some HIT/ cardio but some can.

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1526539

Your eating habits is KEY to dropping fat, make sure that is in check then work on the rest.

Koing
 

paulxcook

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You can lose weight by doing lots of things, as long as you are burning calories. Cardio does that, as does strength training.

As some have already said, the best way to lose fat and keep it off is a combo of both. Cardio burns more calories faster, which allows you to get to your target weight. Increasing your muscle mass increases your metabolism, making it easier to keep fat off. Of course, proper diet makes things that much easier. Yes, there are guys who can eat McDonalds and candy bars all day and still be ripped, but for the rest of us mortals a balanced diet is best.
 

TecHNooB

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I just had 2 full order of wings from Pizza Hut + several slices of hawaiin pizza. The cheese was glistening. Progress :thumbsdown:

Btw, I had this idea that by gaining more muscle mass, you burn more daily, therefore you don't necessary need to do cardio? I still do it anyway but yea~
 

purbeast0

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speaking of cutting ... my lypo-6 pills came today. i'm going to add them to my diet starting tomorrow so we'll see what kind of results these give on top of my diet/lifting/cardio that i'm doing as well.
 

O2Deprived

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Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Of course, no matter what your goal is, diet is always the most important factor.

This is the #1 key. If you put crap in, you'll get nowhere. Diet>Weightlifting>Cardio.

 

YetioDoom

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
That article is full of BS.
You need both.

No, you are misinformed. Yea, yea, yea, so you lift weights. You don't need cardio to lose fat. In fact, if you mix weights and cardio incorrectly, you eat away at all your gains. building lean mass that raises your BMR is far superior.

You don't need both, and if i were to choose one or the other, I'd choose resistance training.

The fact you brought up BMR makes it sure you have no idea what you are talking about.

Why do you say that?
 

Chrono

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Go do both it'll do you good. Try freakin' lifting only then going out and play 3-4 hours of basketball. You won't last very long obviously. It's good to stretch too you bastards.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
That article is full of BS.
You need both.

No, you are misinformed. Yea, yea, yea, so you lift weights. You don't need cardio to lose fat. In fact, if you mix weights and cardio incorrectly, you eat away at all your gains. building lean mass that raises your BMR is far superior.

You don't need both, and if i were to choose one or the other, I'd choose resistance training.

The fact you brought up BMR makes it sure you have no idea what you are talking about.

What's wrong with mentioning BMR? That's different than BMI.
 

Special K

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Both can be beneficial, but cardio can be catabolic to muscle if used improperly during a cut.

FWIW, some people can cut just fine by only manipulating their diet.
 

StageLeft

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It can be done, but the ideal is a combination of weights and cardio and vigilence of diet. Weights, triathlon training, calorie counting, and getting used to what hunger feels like are how last year I got to an 8.5% bodyfat, could still bench 150% of my bodyweight and got fit enough for 97th percentile in one triathlon and 80+ in a second. Weight loss without cardio is just a touch slower and also requires even more restricted calories, not to mention cardio even when not training for anything will increase fitness and overall health, regardless of what some dude with a book is peddling to try and drum up sales.

If I had to pick one I'd pick weights but only because being skinny without any muscle looks barely any better than being fat, but when it's time to get aggressive on the weight loss, it's time to hit the cardio.
 

Safeway

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
That article is full of BS.
You need both.

No, you are misinformed. Yea, yea, yea, so you lift weights. You don't need cardio to lose fat. In fact, if you mix weights and cardio incorrectly, you eat away at all your gains. building lean mass that raises your BMR is far superior.

You don't need both, and if i were to choose one or the other, I'd choose resistance training.

The fact you brought up BMR makes it sure you have no idea what you are talking about.

What's wrong with mentioning BMR? That's different than BMI.

Yea, BMR = Base Metabolic Rate. It makes a world of difference.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
It can be done, but the ideal is a combination of weights and cardio and vigilence of diet. Weights, triathlon training, calorie counting, and getting used to what hunger feels like are how last year I got to an 8.5% bodyfat, could still bench 150% of my bodyweight and got fit enough for 97th percentile in one triathlon and 80+ in a second. Weight loss without cardio is just a touch slower and also requires even more restricted calories, not to mention cardio even when not training for anything will increase fitness and overall health, regardless of what some dude with a book is peddling to try and drum up sales.

If I had to pick one I'd pick weights but only because being skinny without any muscle looks barely any better than being fat, but when it's time to get aggressive on the weight loss, it's time to hit the cardio.

If I cut my calories, I quickly shed muscle. I've tried cutting down that way, and I did get much lighter, but the muscle leaves first. I was taking protein supplements and everything, yet I lost the muscle.
 

Eeezee

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Very simply put, weight lifting burns calories, so it helps burn fat if you're dieting right.

A big question I have is does the type of weight lifting matter? I know of a bunch of stuff you can do with dumbbells but none of the other weight machines (besides a bench press). I know the #3 Brazilian Martial Arts Super Heavyweight division champion and he said doing dumbbells and bench presses should be fine if I'm not serious about gaining tons of muscle or anything like that but just want to burn some more calories.